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Lets say by chance your PH emails you 1 day before you are to depart to Africa on your plains game hunt and mentions that there is a pretty good chance that you'll get to tag along for a day or two on an elephant hunt if you want to...  You are packed and ready to go. Do you think that a 375 with solids would be good enough for a 'just in case' type situation? Or do you guys think I/he/them Would be better off leaving it in the truck so I, uh I mean the "guy", can run faster?  Just wondering... only two days till arrival...  | ||
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Take the 375H&H and use the PH's gun if necessary! Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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I've only hunted elephant once, and it was with a .375H&H (Tuskless ele hunt). Although not an optimal calibur, it is at least adequate. And if I were you/him/them I would rather be armed with a rifle I know, than borrow some other bigbore I'm not familiar with. And if it's for nasty, tuskless cow ele, train to run fast! | |||
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Not ment to confuse anyone. I will be just along for the ride so to speak... Another hunter will be do'n the kill'n. Just wondering if it would be pertinent to be "pack'n" or just lace up my running shoes reeeeeal tight? | |||
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Ivan, I understood that you'd just be tagging along, but I see my post was a little vague. If given a choice in elephant country, I'd choose to be armed, rather than unarmed and thus defenceless! | |||
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The 375 H&H has been getting it done on jumbo for 93 years.  "The atomic bomb made the prospect of future war unendurable. It has led us up those last few steps to the mountain pass; and beyond there is a different country." - J. Robert Oppenheimer | |||
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I would definately take your 375 and have a gun in hand to go along with your hunting parties guns. Remember running shoes are not always the answer when you have a good PH and staff. Your PH will let you know what is to be expected and in what situation you will be "LIVE" fire if it happens. With running shoes only you still cannot be the slowest one there even with great shoes!!!!!!!! Robert | |||
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I'd take the 375 and carry it on a sling while using a cam corder to film the hunt. That would be more valuabe in the long run. The client and PH will both have adequate weapons to handle the situation. 465H&H | |||
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The .375 loaded with solids is an excellent elephant rifle for those who can shoot well...... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I think you should always carry your gun when in an area with dangerous game, even if you are just tagging along (i.e., not the shooter). For example, we were hunting crocs down along the river in Tanzania and we ran into hippos, which were out of the water in tall grass. We were lucky we weren't between them and the water. Guess who didn't have his gun - "me" and I felt kind of helpless (couldn't quite defend myself w/ the video camera). We would leave my wife in camp about every 5th day, so she could take a break and she always took her rifle where ever she went. Your 375H&H w/ solids will allow you to take care of yourself - you can't always count on someone else to be there in all situations. | |||
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Ivan, if the Ph lets you carry do so..Yes the 375 will work...learn where to do the shooting if all else fails... Mike | |||
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I like 465's idea. Just being on the hunt if they score will be quite an experience. To get it on film would be great. What an added bonus to your safari!!! Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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Thanks for the info guys... 36 hrs from now I'll be on the trail of a jumbo if all goes well... If not I'll have to settle for chasing big ol kudu bulls. I want to thank all the loonies on this board for brain washing me to the point of actully making a huntin africa happen... I hope to post some pictures in a couple weeks. | |||
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Ivan, Watch the trackers...They will roll up their pants and take off their shirts..Roll them up in a ball and hold them in their hands.. That is when you are close...in the jess... Mike | |||
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According to the experts ,and iam not one of them, all you need is a 375 for everything!!!! [which then makes you wonder why they ever made anything bigger ]your PH will take care of you anyway, and is a quicker second shot than any double rifle is or bolt action | |||
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Like I said a 375 is fine for those that can shoot.... But, I can shoot, and I want my .470 double on elephant everytime... If my double weighed 7.5 lbs. and had no recoil, then I would use it for everything...but alas my new walk about behind hunters is a 8 Lb. 10.75x68 with a ghost sight stroked with 350 ge. Bridger flat nose solids at 2350 FPS...or 400 gr. Woodleigh softs at 2120 FPS.... I figure a .375 stroked with those wonderful 350 gr. Woodleighs would be an awesome choice for you, in both solid and PPs..the RN work well also but they are softer than the PP... Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Hell , the .375 was all Harry Manners used! In a pre-64 Winchester Model 70 no less. If you're comfortable with her, take her. Ol' Harry took more eles than all the posters on this forum combined. Proper bullets are the key and Northforks, Bridgers, Barnes and Woodleigh solids would be my choice. On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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How many trackers did Manners get killed by using his .375, I forget?! ------------------------------- Will Stewart / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor Member, GOA, N.A.G.R. _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ Hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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A .375 is perfect for a spectator. When I carried one in the near neighborhood of elephants, well . . . it was better than a sharp stick. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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My awareness of my own mortality is strong enough that I would prefer to carry something something bigger than a .375, but if just tagging along on someone else's hunt where the chance that I will fire a shot is next to zero, a .375 would be fine. | |||
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"I know, from using the rifle myself, that the .375 Magnum can safely and satisfactorily be taken against any animal anywhere in Africa. This is not written on the strength of shooting a few beasts with a new weapon and being pleased with the result. I have had three of Holland's .375 Magnums: the first bought secondhand in the early days of my experiments; after using it extensively I discarded it in order to try other weapons; Later, after I had been through the list of it's contemporaries, I bought another, also secondhand, so as to check up on the notes that I had made on the first one's behavior. So satisfied was I that I then discarded it and had Messrs. Holland & Holland build me up a new one - the one that I am using at present. I have fired more .375 Magnum ammunition in my life than any other calibre: over 5,000 rounds at game, including all kinds of African game from elephant downwards. "I kept no record of the number of elephant and buffalo shot with the first two .375 Magnums; but I distinctly remember the day when this one dropped it's hundredth elephant; and in addition this same one has accounted for somewhere between 400 and 500 buffalo, besides a number of rhino, hippo and lion, and of course, a fair quantity of lesser game. So that both it and I are thoroughly accustomed to each other's little ways. I am not suggesting for a moment that it alone is a suitable weapon for the professional elephant hunter; and naturally I have other much more powerful weapons for use under certain conditions. But what I am suggesting is that personal experience has shown me that it is an eminently safe, sound and intensely-satisfactory weapon to take against any animal anywhere if the sportsman does not want to be bothered with a number of different weapons." John Taylor - "Big Game and Big Game Rifles" Chapter 8 - page 103. _______________________________________________ OK then, you don't like Harry. What about Pondoro....... On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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Hey, I'm the first to admit that my father, John Taylor, was a lying piece of crap! ------------------------------- Will Stewart / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor Member, GOA, N.A.G.R. _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ Hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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well there was one guy who shot alot of elephant with a 6.5 schoenauer and another who shot about as many cape buffalo with a 6.5 carcano with army surplus ammo ,evidently this proves they are adequate for big game ,i dont think i will sell my swedish mauser now ,who needs a bloody 375 | |||
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I have shot 12 elephants with a 375 and am still alive. sorry about the spelling, I missed that class. | |||
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Will and LV Eric, How many rounds of ammunition (solids) would you carry in your rifle and on your belt for cow elephant in Dnade North, Zimbabwae? Im leaving Oct.30, this year. Andy | |||
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They come cheaper by the baker's dozen. | |||
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Andy! Hunting cows in the jess can get very hairy. I would carry a gun load plus 20 in a belt carrier. 46H&H | |||
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