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Ladies and Gentlemen,

We had a BBQ last Friday, and of course Walter would not let a chance like this pass without creating havoc!

He was cooking beef joints, lamb cutlets, sausages and a lamb leg.

The leg of lamb just happened to be about the same size as some of our turtles that roam the garden.

He decided to go an find one, and kep it by his side on the ground as he was cooking!

Of course, the kids, and their mothers were drawn to it like flies to their favourite food!

Some of the kids started to pick up the turtle.

Walter "Leave our food alone! Go and play in the pool, can't you see I am busy cooking?"

One of the mothers asked "What do you mean food? We are not eating that turtle?"

Walter "May be not that one, but his brother which is almost ready. There, look"

He pointed to the leg of lamb, as you can see below!

The woman ran off after taking a peek at what was on the BBQ, and went looking for my wife to complain!

Of course, in about 10 seconds every woman knew we were cooking "poor turtles"! And my wife had a hard time convincing them that Walter was joking!

I heard one woman, pointing towards me and Walter, say to my wife "I never know with those two!"

It was time to feed our cats, and the kids wanted to come have a look, so we all went and fed Jasmin, one of our cheetahs. You can see she had quales for her dinner.











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So how was the turtle meat a bit stringey jumping

Good one Walter.
Jasmine seems to be growing fast thumb


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Saeed, what kind of turtle is that?

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No turtles for Jasmine?


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Growing fast? Whew, they grow up so fast. She is a real cutie.


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Gentlemen,

Jasmin is a year old, she not the one I posted the photoes of a while back.


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Well, I don't know about Jasmine but Hessa sure is growing up fast! What a pretty little girl! Is she shooting the T Rex yet? Big Grin


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No Ann she isn't, but I am sure she will enjoy seeing you doing it clap

I had small balloons up for the kids to shot at with an air rifle. Which is too heavy for them to hold. So I rested the forend on my shoulders, and they stood behind me and fired their shots.

Hessa beat them all, some were 12 years old!

She is bringing all her classroom to visit our zoo tomorrow.


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Saeed,

One day I will get over there to do just that!


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Ann,

As you are going to be the first lady to shoot it, I will try to see how much powder I can put into that case.

So far we have only managed to get about 2580 fps with the 750 grain bullet.

Walter says we should aim for 3000 in your honour clap


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Very Nice Pics Saeed.

With the weather now here in Dubai its ideal weather to spend outside with the family and friends and pets...

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Saeed,

You always seem to make me feel special! banana

I hope there is a good hospital close by your ranch.


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saeed - that is one awfully cute girl - its a special time of life when your kids are still little - enjoy it to its fullest
 
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Ah, one young lady enjoying quality time with her Dad! These are the good moments in life! thumb

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Saeed!

Is that a turtle or a tortoise?

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BBQ is my favorite food group! Big Grin Those pictures had me near drooling. thumb We are not quite at BBQ season here yet. Was -10 deg C this morning.

Hessa sure is growing up fast. I'll echo the comments above...she is a real cutie. Smiler

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Saeed!

Is that a turtle or a tortoise?

465H&H


I have never been able to tell the difference.

May be some of our more enlightened friends can tell us.


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What's pictured is a tortoise. They spend their entire lives on very dry land. Turtles and terrapins are mostly aquatic animals.


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Well, we had about 20 kids come to our house this morning, to see the animals.

They ad a great time feeding the ostrices and tortoises. And watched us feed the crocs and the baby cheetahs.

Then they had a picnic by the pool, and played with some goats.

Then they fed the parrots.

Then the fun really started.

We laid a couple of crocodile skins - with heads intact - for them to play with.

They were all over them, some got their heads into their the crocs's moths, some were jumping up and down on them, some were racing around them!

We had a hard time getting them to leave and go back to school!


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Hessa is indeed a real cutie. Alas. what is that standing behind her, a troll or a gargoyle? clap


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Saeed!

Is that a turtle or a tortoise?

465H&H


I have never been able to tell the difference.

May be some of our more enlightened friends can tell us.
it is an African spur thigh tortoise


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What's pictured is a tortoise. They spend their entire lives on very dry land. Turtles and terrapins are mostly aquatic animals.



Ann has it right. beer

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Saeed,

Wow Has Hessa grown up to be a very pretty young lady.

Tell Walter to keep up the good work and practical jokes.


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3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
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8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
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just FYI, these guys get VERY large. i had 2 of them for 6-7 years and they grew from 3 inches to 22 inches long and 50 lbs apiece when i sold them. they get a lot larger( up to 80-90 lbs)


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Hi Saeed, not sure what species of tortoise that is, is it from Africa? Looks a bit like the African angulate tortoise, Chersina angulata, but I am probably way out on that one. I am afraid that I am not a hard-core herpetologist!

jdollar, I am not sure what tortoise you ended up with, but sounds like it was a beast, maybe an African leopard tortoise (Geochelone pardalis)? I have come accross some monsters in the veld before. Some are very hard to pick up, but always beware of them peeing on you! Their urinating is a defensive mechanism, and wastes a lot of their water reserves, so I would not make a habit of doing this, especially if it is heading towards the dry season.

As for cheetahs, I think they are quite special animals, they are probably also the easiest to tame of the big wild 'cats', and can imagine they probably make pretty good pets. I still remember stroking a tame one as a kid many years ago and the sound of the purr being just like a cat, but multiplied quite a few decibels at least!
 
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the picture is an African spur thigh tortoise. they get about three times the size of a leopard tortoise. completely different shape to the carapice as well as a different color pattern on the shell. common name derives from the large spurs that develop on the front legs as a defense mechanism.species name is sulcata.


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While I assume Saeed knows exactly what he's doing and takes all necessary safety precautions (with children in particular), I cringed just a little the other day when I saw this video, and thought about his housecats:

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/cheetah-attack/2796049783

Saeed, in your experience, have your cats ever acted up a such a way as this one? If so, I assume you acted a bit differently than saying 'ow!' and acting much like a prey animal... Smiler


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We have several cheetahs, and the only ones we let people get close to are the ones which were hand raised.

These show no sign of aggressions whatsoever.

Even the ones which are relatively wild, tend to be scared of humans.

We had two large males which we put together in one area. They got into nasty fights every now and thn, and the only way to stop them was for me to go in and seperate them by hand.

Neither has ever turn on me at all, despite me hitting them with my bare hands.

In fact, they used to go to seperate areas to cool off, and a few minutes later each would come to me puuring and lick my hands.

The funny part is, even the hand raised ones, sometimes I have noticed that they tend to give a lot more attention to an individual visitor just out of the blue.

And in every case this happened, that individual had reservations of going into the pen where the cheetahs are.


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I am not sure what the situation was with cheetah in the attack that Kamo Gari posted. Wild cheetah as Saeed says often run away and are inherently fearful of humans. Also if they are in an enclosure, they will most likely run and keep to the far opposite side more often than not. I would feel relatively safe walking into a cheetah enclosure, but certainly not a lion one!

In the link, it looked like a coalition of males, with one or two of the males probably being hand-reared and released back into the wild. The animal that attacked seemed to have lost any fear of humans, so there must have been some human exposure somewhere along the line or was tamed by others in the gang. I think that crouching down is not a good approach to exposing yourself to any big wild cat, you make yourself look more like a prey item, same goes for never turning your back on one. The other thing I think would be blood, if you are bleeding in any way, it may excite an otherwise disinterested cat. I think that women and children are obviously more at risk than adult men due to size and intimidation. Saeed is right in not letting people around the wilder cheetah. It is important to remember to never enter an enclosure by yourself too, and remember that these cats still pull down prey much larger than humans, even kudu cows on occasion with a group of males!
 
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jdollar, thanks for the identification, I have to say I was not familiar with that beast. Those African spur-thighs grow huge...up to 240lbs! I would certainly not consider lifting one like that up without consulting a chiropractor!
 
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Hi Saeed, forgot to say how mouth-watering that feast looked! Seasoned lamb chops on the BBQ/braai are very hard to beat. In fact, I have found that almost any meat on a braai is hard to beat! I can't wait for summer time here!
 
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We have several cheetahs, and the only ones we let people get close to are the ones which were hand raised.

These show no sign of aggressions whatsoever.

Even the ones which are relatively wild, tend to be scared of humans.

We had two large males which we put together in one area. They got into nasty fights every now and thn, and the only way to stop them was for me to go in and seperate them by hand.

Neither has ever turn on me at all, despite me hitting them with my bare hands.

In fact, they used to go to seperate areas to cool off, and a few minutes later each would come to me puuring and lick my hands.

The funny part is, even the hand raised ones, sometimes I have noticed that they tend to give a lot more attention to an individual visitor just out of the blue.

And in every case this happened, that individual had reservations of going into the pen where the cheetahs are.


Makes one wonder about the so-called 'smell of fear'. Well, makes me wonder, anyway.

Thanks for the insight, and pictures, Saeed. You live a very interesting existence indeed! But then anyone that has befriended folks such as Walter is bound to be a trifle...eccentric, shall we say? Wink

KG

P.S. I don't ever recall seeing pics of Wally with the cats. What do they think of him? Do I want to know? Smiler


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HI Saeed
The cheetahs are trained and used for hunting gazell in middle east. are you going to make jasmina to a hunting cheetah? congratulation hessa is growing fast and very beautyful yound lady.
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