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TZ hunting term extended to 2012 - CONFIRMED

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01 August 2009, 23:13
Bwanamich
TZ hunting term extended to 2012 - CONFIRMED
For those that follow TZ hunting news, there has been a lot of confusion and rumors about imminent block re-allocation. Back in January the current hunting term that was due to expire on 31st Dec 2009 was extended until 31st Dec 2012 by the Minister.

At SCI, the Minister issued an official, public statement to this effect at a gathering of TZ outfitters, TAHOA and a few journalists as well as SCI. Since then, politicians and Parliament have been tryig to overturn that decision at every occasion.

The extension was discussed in Parliament yesterday and it was unanimously passed as it stood. IOW, the current hunting term will now expire on 31st Dec 2012. What this means is that the block re-allocation will take place at the end of this term (2012) BUT the Ministry will communicate to all operators what their "new" blocks will be for the period 2013 to 2017 by mid 2010 giving operators a 2 year notice.

I suspect prices will be ammended then too.


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01 August 2009, 23:40
larryshores
Could you elaborate about your price comments?
02 August 2009, 00:01
Bwanamich
Its no secret that the Gov expects more revenue and their way of trying to make this happen is to "raise' prices.

We also know that the WD has commissioned a document on the assessment of all hunting blocks with the aim of grading these. The graded blocks will fetch a different "lease" amount based on whether it is an "A" grade or "B" grade, etc. Of course they never considered how on earth will operators successfuly market if they end up with only B, C or D grade blocks Roll Eyes

In addition, they are looking at ways to increase the number of blocks and so sub-dividing existing ones is the easiest solution. Guess what will happen to the quota?


"...Them, they were Giants!"
J.A. Hunter describing the early explorers and settlers of East Africa

hunting is not about the killing but about the chase of the hunt.... Ortega Y Gasset
02 August 2009, 00:36
larryshores
So the highest prices in Africa are going to get even higher.
02 August 2009, 01:50
jdollar
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
So the highest prices in Africa are going to get even higher.
yep!!!! when the morons in Tz. price themselves out of the market, maybe they will finally understand the old proverb about killing the goose that lays the golden egg. too bad but Africa will always be Africa.


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02 August 2009, 03:31
tradewinds
quote:
Originally posted by jdollar:
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
So the highest prices in Africa are going to get even higher.
yep!!!! when the morons in Tz. price themselves out of the market, maybe they will finally understand the old proverb about killing the goose that lays the golden egg. too bad but Africa will always be Africa.


That is what everyone said when they had the last price increase.
02 August 2009, 04:12
Bill C
quote:
In addition, they are looking at ways to increase the number of blocks and so sub-dividing existing ones is the easiest solution. Guess what will happen to the quota?
Ummmm, it will be evenly distributed between the sub-divided blocks, unless there is compelling reason to allocate a higher percentage of the quota for particular animals to one area versus another, while of course not exceeding the current total quota allocation? Wink
02 August 2009, 05:00
jdollar
quote:
Originally posted by tradewinds:
quote:
Originally posted by jdollar:
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
So the highest prices in Africa are going to get even higher.
yep!!!! when the morons in Tz. price themselves out of the market, maybe they will finally understand the old proverb about killing the goose that lays the golden egg. too bad but Africa will always be Africa.


That is what everyone said when they had the last price increase.
yes and that is one reason why i have been getting emails and seen posted here, greatly reduced prices on Tz. hunts. part of the reason is certainly the general economy and part of the reason is the sky high prices for hunts there. and just for the record, i have hunted in the Selous as well as Moz. and much prefer Moz.!!! more bang for the buck.


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02 August 2009, 08:32
BrettAKSCI
quote:
Originally posted by jdollar:
quote:
Originally posted by tradewinds:
quote:
Originally posted by jdollar:
quote:
Originally posted by larryshores:
So the highest prices in Africa are going to get even higher.
yep!!!! when the morons in Tz. price themselves out of the market, maybe they will finally understand the old proverb about killing the goose that lays the golden egg. too bad but Africa will always be Africa.


That is what everyone said when they had the last price increase.
yes and that is one reason why i have been getting emails and seen posted here, greatly reduced prices on Tz. hunts. part of the reason is certainly the general economy and part of the reason is the sky high prices for hunts there. and just for the record, i have hunted in the Selous as well as Moz. and much prefer Moz.!!! more bang for the buck.


I've got to agree with tradewinds on this one. People complained once and yet still bucked up and people will do it again. I do believe everyone in all the countries are feeling the pinch. I've been seeing discounts from everyone. I think it has more to do with the economy than Tanzania's prices.

Brett


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May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
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02 August 2009, 08:42
BrettAKSCI
Personally I think I'd rather see the prices go up than have them divide the blocks into tiny pieces and up the quotas. Maybe they'll divide the Selous blocks into quarters, so the outfitters will have just enough room to put up a tent!

Brett


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Life Member SCI
Life Member NRA
Life Member WSF

Rhyme of the Sheep Hunter
May fordings never be too deep, And alders not too thick; May rock slides never be too steep And ridges not too slick.
And may your bullets shoot as swell As Fred Bear's arrow's flew; And may your nose work just as well As Jack O'Connor's too.
May winds be never at your tail When stalking down the steep; May bears be never on your trail When packing out your sheep.
May the hundred pounds upon you Not make you break or trip; And may the plane in which you flew Await you at the strip.
-Seth Peterson