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Hey Roger about 15 years ago you rechambered a 375 h%h for me to 375 wby. . Interestingly I shot an eland at 310 yards with that rifle. He died quickly, so thats what I would say is an excellent choice. BTW it is still a great rifleafter many years of hard hunting | |||
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My all weather, beater, shoot everything is a stainless Mod 70 in 375 Weatherby.
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Ive seen Eland go several hundred yards, one shot 3 times in the lungs with a 375 H&H and again by Philip price PH, with a 243 Sako and a 100 gr. corelokt in the butt and that little pill penetrated that Eland full length..The kill went against all odds, but you hunt long enough you too will see such incidents..I used the 375 H&H, 30-06, a cow with a borrowed 7x57 milsurp Mauser a 338 and a 8mm/06 Ackley, most died with a short run of less than 50 yards...Seemed about like shooting Moose, takes them foreve to die, and sometimes they just tilt over dead at the shot..keep in mind they can be tough, big animals are sometimes, so are the little ones.. I suggest you just shoot what you shoot best the rest is horse hockey. beaten a dead Eland. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Took my Common Eland 21 years ago with a 375H&H. One shot and done at about 75 yds. with a 300 gr. TBBC. As others have relayed here, a 375 may not be necessary, but I prefer overkill if ever in doubt. | |||
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You are correct DRSS Searcy 470 NE | |||
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I’m with Hasher on the merits of the 8X68, loaded with a premium 200 grain bullet. It’s worked fine on all the Eland bulls I’ve killed. Jesus saves, but Moses invests | |||
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I have shot several, most with a .300W or .375 HH. Use a good bullet in the right place. | |||
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Bullet construction and bullet placement is more important than bullet size, anytime! | |||
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Very much this. Hunters as a group spend far to little time shooting at realistic targets that lack defined aiming points. Find realistic animal targets and practice on those from various field position and it will do far more for your hunting than any larger caliber. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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I killed a large bull Eland in the Save with a 375H&H, 300gr Trophy Bonded Bearclaw bullets. He was 150 yards, laying down leaning towards us, and quartering away. I hit him just in front of the right hip, bullet under skin in front edge of left shoulder, at least 3 feet of penetration thru stomach and vitals. He ran 100 yards and fell. Dead when we got there. I would not of tried THAT shot with a lesser gun/bullet. I always believe one should use the combo that will get the job done no matter the range/size/or angle of shot. Birmingham, Al | |||
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. Are you planning on a one rifle hunt ? And what other animals are you thinking about ? 8x68S with a premium bullet is plenty good for a plains game hunt IMO. . "Up the ladders and down the snakes!" | |||
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Not a lot of experience here, but on two eland, one 400 grain Swift A Frame worked on both. No follow up. No second shot. Works on buffalo too. Or just about anything other than elephant. | |||
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Four eland. One with the 300 WSM that dropped on the spot. Three others with the 375 H&H. My recommendation? Definitely the 375 H&H for sure. | |||
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Seems to me your 8x68S is a very good choice for Eland and certainly excellent for all other plains game. Anything said about the .338 should apply just as well to the 8x68S. I've only shot two eland. Both were a bit of a challenge. The first one I shot poorly with a .30-06 at 250M. I can confirm that they don't die quickly with only one lung punctured by a smallish bullet. It was a 165gr. TSX. After the poor critter's adrenalin was pumped up from being wounded, it took four more to the chest to finish the job. I craved a larger cartridge AND vowed better bullet placement for "next time". When the opportunity to shoot an eland came again last May, I was carrying a .375 H&H. I was glad I had a heavier rifle that time. Because I didn't notice a very small twig that was in front of the shoulder and my bullet hit that before going on to hit the eland right where I'd aimed - but sideways. A lesser bullet than that 300 gr. Swift A-Frame may have broken up, but as it was the eland was incapacitated enough for me to put two more quick shots in from behind at an angle. I discovered .375 Solids have enough penetration for that job. Was glad I wasn't carrying a .30-06. If you plan your shot, and shoot well, no such complication should limit your success with an 8x68S and strong, heavyweight bullets. Happy hunting! | |||
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Hi Ray. Regarding the 100 grain bullet fired from a 243, that travelled lengthwise in an Eland, would I be correct in thinking the bullet had little to no expansion ? Thanks in advance, brair | |||
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That would make sense and it must have also missed a lot of the heavier bones else there would have been some noticeable deflection and decrease in speed. | |||
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I have all sorts of animals here, and sometimes I have to shoot some. Tried all sorts of tricks, ultimately staying with a standard velocity 22 rim fire in the ear hole. Never failed. Made refused 308 Winchester ammo. Enough to penetrate an impala shot through the chest. They take time to die. Tried 22 WMR HP and solids. Shooting Arabian Oryx in the forehead facing. He just shook his head and walked away. Now anytime I need shoot anywhere, I pick a 22 match bolt rifle. Use match ammo from Eley or Lapua. One shot in the ear and that is the end of it. | |||
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Wow! I did not expect so many helpful comments and recommendations. Thanks to all of you. Because the PH told me to expect shots out to 300 yards, I did not mention I have a 9.3x62. It's my favorite rifle. Were a long range shot not a possibility, the 9.3x62 would be my first choice. Perhaps, I'm just over thinking things. Happy New Year! Roger | |||
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Nothing to stop you using it. I hunt with a 375 and have shot animals over 500 yards. | |||
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Now you are talking! Take the 9.3!!! I hunt, not to kill, but in order not to have played golf.... DRSS | |||
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Given a choice, .375 every time but sometimes you just have to use the nearest rifle to hand. Then it comes down to range and accuracy of shooting. Do you want to hunt and stalk the Eland or just shoot it at long range? A .22 rimfire solid in the forehead drops a Hereford bull on the spot at 10 yards (or in the ear as Saeed states) Having said that I once had an Eland bull run off with a broken shoulder after a 180 gr from a borrowed .300 win mag disintegrated at 50 yards. Cheap South African ammo. My fault, I should have put it through his neck. Got him later. | |||
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You already have a 9.3x62 and didn't think it was adequate for eland up to 300 M? Please have a little more faith in your 9.3 than that. If I was limited to ONE cartridge for hunting eland, it would be 9.3x62. It's about perfect for the job. Rifle is lighter and kicks less than a .375 OR .338, breaks big bones and continues to penetrate just like a .375, muzzle blast is less than a 8x68s or .338, barrel is typically shorter and handier, it is relatively easy to shoot accurately, and trajectory is adequate for all reasonable distances that eland will actually be shot at. AND it works just fine on the smaller stuff too. 9.3x62 = "All killer, no filler". | |||
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My son shot a huge Eland with his 7MM-08 at age 13. Range was just at 250 yards. The first shot went right through the heart. Our PH was concerned the animal did not react so told my son to shoot again, he shot again this round also hit the heart and was less than 2" from the first shot(I used to be able to shoot like that). The Eland took one step forward and collapsed. I am sure the second shot was completely unnecessary but it never hurts to be sure. If your parents didn't have any children chances are you won't either. | |||
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Roger, Use the 9.3x62 with confidence. It will absolutely do the job... just review the ballistic tables to see what the drop is on your load at 300 yards and keep it in mind. An eland is a very big target. If you shoot the rifle well, by all means take it! On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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Roger, I've done a fair bit of shooting and hunting with both the 9.3x62mm and the .375 H&H Mag. Both are effective calibers on medium/heavy game with typical bullets. I have used 285-286 grain expanding bullets in the 9.3, and 272 grain expanding bullets in the .375. The .375 will develop 5-600 ft.-lbs. more muzzle energy than the 9.3 using those bullets. That comes out to around 4,100 ft.-lbs. for the .375 vs. 3,500 plus or minus for the 9.3. No eland will be able to tell the difference. With those bullets, both calibers like a 200 yard zero. That puts them just a shade over 3 inches high at 100 yards, and 12-13 inches low at 300 yards, which is my maximum for these and almost all other calibers. In sum, if I were you, I would not hesitate to take my 9.3. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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As others have said, the 9.3 should be fine for eland. Always bothered me that it isn't "legal" for buffalo in some places. As the to range out to 300 yards, that shouldn't be an issue. Now I won't stretch things out like Saeed does, but I've shot game out to 300 with my .416. I'd recommend actually shooting on paper at the ranges you'd be willing to shoot before you go. Your experience, may not be exactly what it shows on the back of your box of cartridges. Now Saeed will disagree with me where I sight in, but it works for me and I'll continue to do it. I sight in my .416 dead on at 100. It's 6 inches low at 200 and 21 inches low at 300. On large animals, I'm comfortable out to those ranges with that rifle. Someone made the comment about whether you want to "hunt" and eland or "snipe" them, and the same comment can be made about anything including buffalo. However, while I'd like to get close, terrain can prevent it. Your 9.3 should be good at 300 yards, but shoot it at that range before you go. | |||
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I would make that decision based on the geographical location of my hunt, in the high mountains of RSA shots can be very long and I would opt for a 338 win mag for instance,in the bushveld an 06 would be ok, but for a one gun safari come what may Id just stick with my 338 win..but lots of options like the 300 wby.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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