The Tz game Department have just sanctioned that all Bow Hunters wishing to hunt TZ will need to pay DOUBLE ALL Goverment fees on top of double the Trophy Fees! this effectively "shuts down" bow-hunting in Tz altogether as it now means the fees are just about prohibitive!

There was a lot of confusion at the beginning of the season regarding bow-hunting which had just been "re-opened" after almost a decade. Initially it was announced that only the trophy fees would be doubled for animals taken with a bow. The first few bow-hunters acted as guinea pigs for the rest with mixed results!

It's a shame as in the end they (GD) stand to lose the most from this decision.

C'mon. Why are you surprised by laws making Bow Hunters pay for their troubles?

I have yet to have anyone book a bow hunt for Tanzania!

I am sorry, I just cannot see the logic in this!

A hunter will be hunting, what method he uses should be of no consequence!

I suspect it might not be too long before someone gets the idea of charging according to teh trophy size, as they do in Europe!

That is the day I stop hunting in those countries!

Saeed,

That already happens in some South African properties.

Not to worry folks I have space remaining for 2006 on a new property with excellent bow hunting and the best blinds in all of Africa!

Come on down and bow hunt with me, I am a bow hunter and know how to set up bow hunting for my hutners.

http://www.HuntingAdventures.net

By the way, this particular property has been in non-hunting private ownership for over 30 years until now. Our 2006 season will be the first hunters on this property, aside from a few biltong hunters.

JJ- I just perused your website and if you do offer bowhunting the evidence of it is well hidden.

I honestly do not mean this in a critical way.If ,however you want to attract bowhunters ,you may need to make it more obvious in some way.

Yeah you're right Doc, It's not in blaze orange thats for sure. I cater to hunters regardless of the method they desire. I have had handgunners, bowhunters, and muzzleloadrs it's all good. I don't really have a specific group that I cater too. All the folks are welcome.

Much like whether folks want to hunt by walking their asses off in the hills, sit in a blind or spot and stalk using a truck. All the same to me. I gotta cater to the desires and capabilities of the folks coming over. I have had 10 year old boys and a 77 year old man, also several wheel chair hunters and other physical limitations.

We have the means to make things work one way or another everyone has a great chance to hunt with me.

I am not a bow hunter but I have seen the new hunting concession that Jjhack speaks of. It is first class with great blinds and has some very big kudu. There will be some nice ones killed on it next year.

Aren't bows the reason we invented guns?

This new Tanzanian policy is:

Born in ignorance

Raised in bureaucracy

Schooled in stupidity

And will do nothing to enhance the quality of game and hunting in general.

Yet another example of government waste and stupidity.

talk about stupidity, why would any country as depressed as Tanz. snub their noses at prospective customers?
It should be the choice of the safari company to decide IF they wish to charge a higher fee for a bowhunter. ie, that mud caked buff doesn't know if a BH went thru his lungs or if it was a .450

Many outfitters in RSA ,Zim and Namibia charge bowhunters less than gunhunters.I bowhunt exclusively and see this quite often.Most commonly it is the daily rates that are discounted but sometimes it is the trophy fees also.

I have recently heard that no more DG will be allowed to be taken with a bow in South Africa.

That is sad for I still think the bow is a very effective weapon and haas seen buff expiring in much less time than with a gun.

I love bowhunting, but there is a place for both, sometimes the gun rule!

This is definitely cancelling my wanting to hunt in Tanzania. I feel it stupid for my usual guide in the CAR (Herve Houdebine) is guiding in Tanz too and he was most happy I'll test Tanz with him.

Next year will be Zimbabwe or Mozambique as far as DG bowhunting is allowed.

I have not time enough to spend it forcing the morons.

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Originally posted by DC300:
Aren't bows the reason we invented guns?

Tanzania=double trophy fees
United Kingdom = no bows at all.
United States = cater to bowhunters

HMMMMMM I prefer the first two.

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I had planned to try to take the second buff on license next year in TZ with a bow. 2x trophy fees was bad enough, doubling the rest is preventive.

Alf, I can't follow your logic, and I'd like to understand your point. Can you take another shot at parsing that last sentence, and expanding a bit?

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Darn it Alf, stop being so logical. You know that there is no room for logic on the internet.

This is ludicrous. Can someone forward me the address of the relavant Tanzanian minister, so I can lodge a format complaint. I am a dedicated big game rifle hunter, and guide for rifle and bow hunters on Australian dangerous game. (http://www.biggameaustralia.com) I must say that bowhunting is much more exciting and skillful. All hunters must support each other. Graham Williams. buffalo@gateway.net.au

Alf, I just don't see the logic. It seems to me to be "non sequitur" The existing trophy fees effectively prevent any legal subsistence hunting irrespective of manner of take, don't they?

The various African governments re-opened bow hunting for profit from tourists, originally with the same trophy fees as rifles.

So doubling the fees for bow hunters seems to be normal everyday short-sighted greed rather than some special punishment against the aboriginies.

Do you now think that banning tourist hunting and legalizing subsistence hunting (by any means) would "make the world a better place"?

TZ has the right to make any laws they wish. This one seems to be counter-productive though. Bowhunters tend to have a lower success rate than rifle hunters, so a given habitat/game population will allow them to strip more total income off tourists if they encourage bow hunting.

By the way, I am not demanding action, I'm just pointing out my viewpoint.

I reckon I'm back to plan A - two buffs via .416 Rem Mag.

Anybody want to buy a slightly used 80# Allegiance?

Don

If Alf is correct this is much the same argument and dissatisfaction that Resident Hunters in BC are using against the Guides and Outfitters.

"Why should some foreigner come in to my country and be able to hunt animals that I am not allowed to hunt. Using a method I am not allowed to use. Just because they have more money than I do?"