I promise my last post today.But this board is informative to an old logger.I shoot the .300 Win Mag with High Energy Nosler's in 200 grain and recoil is nothing bad,I also shoot the modern 45-70 Guide Gun with 405 grain Kodiak bullet's at 1900 fps+.It kick's worse than the .300 anyday.How would you compare either to the .375-.416 and .458?

I really want a bigger rifle,why I don't know,because I just love the attitude adjustment that goes with it,if you know what I mean.I just love gun's period.My .454 is my favorite.Sorry.Jayco.

Here ya go.



http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm



I looked at the difference between the .45-70 and the .416 Rem Mag. It appears that the Rem. Mag. has about twice the felt recoil of the old black powder blunderbuss (oh, I know they don't load it with black powder anymore).

There is a very informative recouiltable right here at he AR.
You'll find it out at the " AR front door" somewhere.

I visited a friend today who is going with me to Namibia next year for his 1st Safari. The heaviest recoiling rifle he ever shot was a .300 Winchester Magnum. He is thinking of buying a 375 H&H to use on the trip, and also for a Brown Bear hunt in Alaska. I brought along my .375 Ackley with 300 grain handloads for him to shoot, and his comment was "hey, that's not too bad". I was watching him from behind, and he had no flinch. His 15 year old son also shot it, and he said it wasn't bad. My friend also felt that the .300 Winchester's recoil seemed to hit him quicker, and sharper, while the .375 recoil, although stronger, didn't seem to be as sharp. He was pleasantly surprised.

In my opinion if someone can shoot a regular weight 300 win with 200 grainer and shoot it well the .375 shouldn't be too much of a problem. The .416 rem though (again IMHO) is is a big step up from the .375 recoil wise.

Jayco,
Do not forget that a mercury filled recoil absorber can be installed in the butt stock to reduce felt recoil. If you like you can add two of these devices for even more comfortable shooting. Kreighoff offers the double recoil absorbers as an option on their large caliber doubles and I have been told that they really help

Make sure that your .375 weighs enough. Mine is 9.25 lbs empty with scope and a fat pad. I find it very easy, especially in comparison with hot .404 Jeff or .450 Rigby loads. In fact, after getting used to the Rigby 4 years ago, I found myself shooting the .375 with just a T-shirt! However, I would get the new rifle and put on the scope and a good, thick KickEze pad. I would sight it in with either a padded shooting coat or a sissy bag. Once I had the baby on target (I like 2" high at 100 yards and dead on at 200) I would only shoot from hunting positions. Too many shooters get recoil shy because they insist on shooting for hours on the bench. Is dumb! Very few countrys have benches growing in their hunting country so you are better off learning to shoot your big boomer the same way you shoot that .300 in the woods. You will wonder what all the fuss is about. The Guide Gun? I'll bet it's too light!

No .375 I ever shot kicked as much as a hot-loaded Marlin. The Marlin has a lousy stock design for controlling recoil.

IMHO the 200 gr hot loads for a 300wm are much more violent than the 375H&H. I have never shot the 416rem, but in my experience the 416 rigby is not that much different than the H&H. My current favorite rifles are a 375H&H ackley imp that weighs under 8 pounds and a 416 rigby improved that weighs just under 9. Both hit a bit harder than the 300wm, but the recoil seems to spread out a bit rather than hitting all at once. If you handle a 300 well, neither cartridge will be very bad. You may actually come to prefer the 375 over the 300! I did and never looked back.