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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Wendell Reich:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
. . . , and the only winners are the bloody lawyers.

So true.

What's your point?

i think his point is lawyers get paid win or lose and will therefore take on ANY case, regardless of merit. sort of like leaches. they don't care what they attach themselves too- they will get fed regardless.

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Wendell Reich:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
. . . , and the only winners are the bloody lawyers.

So true.

What's your point?

i think his point is lawyers get paid win or lose and will therefore take on ANY case, regardless of merit. sort of like leaches. they don't care what they attach themselves too- they will get fed regardless.

What's your point?

same as Saeed's and Wendell's . read it again and you will figure it out- or not. there is a reason why lawyers are the butt of so many jokes. what is the difference between a dead skunk and a dead lawyer in the middle of the road? what do you call 1000 dead lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? ad infinitum. you get the idea- or not....the only winner in frivolous lawsuits is the lawyer. win, lose, or draw, he gets paid. pretty simple really.

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Originally posted by Bwana Bunduki:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
i posted a question on her Facebook page asking why she showed up at the CLA Game Fair trying to book a lion hunt. what are the chances of getting a reply????

Same as my ex-wife calling today and apologizing for being a bitch....

LOL!!

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Originally posted by jdollar:
win, lose, or draw, he gets paid. pretty simple really.

Is capitalization really so painful . . . but I digress.

And I guess other professionals . . . say doctors . . . only get paid if the patient gets well or gets better?

[Hint: The question "What's the point?" was rhetorical.]

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
win, lose, or draw, he gets paid. pretty simple really.

Is capitalization really so painful . . . but I digress.

And I guess other professionals . . . say doctors . . . only get paid if the patient gets well or gets better?

[Hint: The question "What's the point?" was rhetorical.]

The sound of crickets chirping from the physician is deafening!

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And I guess other professionals . . . say doctors . . . only get paid if the patient gets well or gets better?

If you are terminally ill a doctor or a surgeon can do nothing to turn the tables but you will still visit him and pay his fee hoping he'll keep you ticking over for as long as possible.

A worthwhile expense I suppose seeing no one is in a great hurry to go meet the Big Man!

A good doctor's fees are therefore probably more willingly paid rather than the lawyer's

Fujo,

Tell me about it.

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Originally posted by fujotupu:

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And I guess other professionals . . . say doctors . . . only get paid if the patient gets well or gets better?

If you are terminally ill a doctor or a surgeon can do nothing to turn the tables but you will still visit him and pay his fee hoping he'll keep you ticking over for as long as possible.

A worthwhile expense I suppose seeing no one is in a great hurry to go meet the Big Man!

A good doctor's fees are therefore probably more willingly paid rather than the lawyer's

I wonder if George Zimmerman would agree with that statement?

Umm Hmmm...

And how many lawyers have to follow the law that states if the client (patient) shows up, you have to treat them regardless of ability to pay?

Given that lawyers make the rules, no wonder that they get treated better than any other profession.

good point. if a patient shows up in the OR, I PUT HIM TO SLEEP- PERIOD! i don't ask for payment/deposit up front...by law, doctors can't turn patients away in an emergency. can lawyers turn clients away if they show up in their office needing help on a murder charge- you bet your sweet ass they can- even though the outcome may be life threatening!! i repeat- there is a good reason why there are so many lawyer jokes floating around....of course, the fact that our President and the vast majority of members of Congress are lawyers couldn't possibly have anything to do with the obvious bias. it's just a coincidence. i wonder why the overall approval rating for Congress/President is SO low?? another coincidence. lawyers are surely the salt of the earth and sincerely want to help their fellow man, even if it means doing it for free. every one has heard of medical missions to third world countries. ever heard of a legal mission?????

Hell, I'm not an attorney so I don't know why I'm really even involved in this discussion. I'm sure the attorneys here can fend for themselves nicely.

But I know for a fact that it's a popular thing to crap on the attorney profession ... right up to the time you find yourself in need of representation!

To the point of the physicians here claiming the moral high ground for treating without asking for payment in the case of emergencies, it seems to me that emergency legal representation IS available for those unable to pay through the public defenders office.

An anti-hunter turns up and we end up bickering about doctors and attorneys instead of closing ranks. No wonder the antis win the war while losing every single battle.

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Originally posted by Gerard:
An anti-hunter turns up and we end up bickering about doctors and attorneys instead of closing ranks. No wonder the antis win the war while losing every single battle.

Well said buddy.

Getting back to the original subject. I'm surprised she's going to all this trouble for the lion hunting/shooting story which has been raked over on many occasions in the last 30 years or so........... She'd have been much better off looking into the rhino and elephant poaching issue which could give her a FAR bigger and more justifiable story.

Admittedly it'd require a helluva lot more investigative journalism skills but isn't that what she's supposed to be all about anyway?

I guess one does not have to be a doctor to strike a nerve.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
good point. if a patient shows up in the OR, I PUT HIM TO SLEEP- PERIOD! i don't ask for payment/deposit up front...by law, doctors can't turn patients away in an emergency.

. . . by the way, just curious, I presume then that you do not have an expectation of payment when you provide such a service or even bother to send them a bill? I did not realize that doctors were so eleemosynary. I guess the move to Obamacare will not be so bad for you and your colleagues.

you are exactly right. i don't bother to send a bill to indigent patients, since there is zero chance of getting paid. anyone else gets billed AFTER the service and maybe i will get lucky. as far as OBAMACARE goes, i could care less. i retire next Tuesday- i am leaving it to the night shift( and good luck getting quality health care down the road).

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
good point. if a patient shows up in the OR, I PUT HIM TO SLEEP- PERIOD! i don't ask for payment/deposit up front...by law, doctors can't turn patients away in an emergency.

. . . by the way, just curious, I presume then that you do not have an expectation of payment when you provide such a service or even bother to send them a bill? I did not realize that doctors were so eleemosynary. I guess the move to Obamacare will not be so bad for you and your colleagues.

We are Far Afield from the topic-
However-

Since you insist-


The more I think about it, Old Billy was right Let's kill all the lawyers, kill 'em tonight

Actually-
Just a one day a year-
randomly generated-
bag limit three-


scenario would work

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Originally posted by DuggaBoye:

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
good point. if a patient shows up in the OR, I PUT HIM TO SLEEP- PERIOD! i don't ask for payment/deposit up front...by law, doctors can't turn patients away in an emergency.

. . . by the way, just curious, I presume then that you do not have an expectation of payment when you provide such a service or even bother to send them a bill? I did not realize that doctors were so eleemosynary. I guess the move to Obamacare will not be so bad for you and your colleagues.

We are Far Afield from the topic-
However-

Since you insist-


The more I think about it, Old Billy was right Let's kill all the lawyers, kill 'em tonight

Actually-
Just a one day a year-
randomly generated-
bag limit three-


scenario would work

"Jealousy . . . is a mental cancer."

~ B.C. Forbes

No one likes a lawyer until they need one. when you do, and most of us will at some point, you will change your tune.

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Originally posted by DuggaBoye:

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
good point. if a patient shows up in the OR, I PUT HIM TO SLEEP- PERIOD! i don't ask for payment/deposit up front...by law, doctors can't turn patients away in an emergency.

. . . by the way, just curious, I presume then that you do not have an expectation of payment when you provide such a service or even bother to send them a bill? I did not realize that doctors were so eleemosynary. I guess the move to Obamacare will not be so bad for you and your colleagues.

We are Far Afield from the topic-
However-

Since you insist-


The more I think about it, Old Billy was right Let's kill all the lawyers, kill 'em tonight

Actually-
Just a one day a year-
randomly generated-
bag limit three-


scenario would work

that would be great- except Congress( mostly lawyers) would carve out an exemption for themselves, just like they did for exemption from sexual harassment lawsuits, tax liability, retirement benefits, lifelong free health care, etc., etc., etc...... BTW, was that line from an old Eagles song or somewhere else?

I wonder if this has anything to do with her ?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/ho...ed-to-the-Queen.html

RICH Brits are paying up to £15,000 to kill lions at an Africa safari linked to the Queen.

Uitkyk Safaris boasts a list of 41 animals to shoot and claims to be associated with a rifle scope firm given a Royal warrant.

Our reporter posing as a potential guest who wanted to shoot a lion was told by staff: “It’s very thrilling. We’ve had British people here.”

Guests can shoot lions for £12,300 each and other prey for less.

Rent at the South Africa hunting lodge plus rifle hire and other costs adds £3,000.

Justin Kerswell, of animal rights group Viva, said: “I’m disgusted thrill-seekers from the West can choose from a shopping list of wild animals to shoot for sick kicks. This must stop now.”

The logo of Austrian scope-maker Swarovski Optik is on Uitkyk’s website.

Last summer it presented the Queen with binoculars as a jubilee gift and gave Prince Philip a diamond-encrusted pair.

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Justin Kerswell, of animal rights group Viva, said: “I’m disgusted thrill-seekers from the West can choose from a shopping list of wild animals to shoot for sick kicks. This must stop now.”

How about Justin walking down the isle of a supermarket looking at all the meat on display?

In our local market, one can get meat from:

Cows, goats, sheep, pigs, rabbits, camels, chickens, quales, pigeons etc.

Has he given a thought to the poor MILLIONS killed every day to satisfy humanity's requirements?

I noted that comment as well.

One thing that I don't think comes across
to the general population is that the meat
often goes to local people.

Just seeing the photos on here of what happens to an elephant would be enlightening to most (I think).

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Originally posted by 505G:
One thing that I don't think comes across
to the general population is that the meat
often goes to local people.

Just seeing the photos on here of what happens to an elephant would be enlightening to most (I think).

I don't think that most people even need to see photos, just informing them that Africa is a protein starved continent and explain that all the meat is used is all it take to sway most people. Most people are shocked to learn this fact.

When I returned from my first hunt in Africa I was surprised that most Americans believed that meat was readily available to the locals in Africa.

Jason

Don't worry, most here in Aus also think the animal / meat just gets left and wasted.

As we all know meat comes in polystyrene trays in the supermarket ..... why do we have to kill animals?


In case anyone really didn't get what I was saying - it's called irony.

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Originally posted by shakari:

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Originally posted by Gerard:
An anti-hunter turns up and we end up bickering about doctors and attorneys instead of closing ranks. No wonder the antis win the war while losing every single battle.

Well said buddy.

Getting back to the original subject. I'm surprised she's going to all this trouble for the lion hunting/shooting story which has been raked over on many occasions in the last 30 years or so........... She'd have been much better off looking into the rhino and elephant poaching issue which could give her a FAR bigger and more justifiable story.

Admittedly it'd require a helluva lot more investigative journalism skills but isn't that what she's supposed to be all about anyway?

Steve,

The reason she is doing the article on the lions instead of poaching is very simple.

She is just one of the mainstream idiots who want to make a quick buck from an easy and emotional issue.

Reminds me of another "investigative" reporter who wrote an article about Dubai.

He mentioned areas I am very familiar with, and close to where I live.

Of course, the article had absolutely ZERO of truthful element in it, but that makes no difference.

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Originally posted by 505G:
Just seeing the photos on here of what happens to an elephant would be enlightening to most (I think).

More like shocking I fear. An elephant recovery is not something for the squeamish, particularly given that it is an elephant. I understand your point in terms of how nothing goes to waste, everything is taken for consumption, but to watch an actual recovery is not a pleasant experience.

Saeed

You're dead right but it's such a shame that these people always go for the easy stuff.

If someone did the rhino poaching story in depth, including investigating the guys at the very top of the trade, it'd be a stupendously big story that's truly worthy of investigation & of benefit to everyone whether hunter, anti and everyone in between.

I should have worded my post better.

I didn't mean they (non hunters) should have to look at the photos, I meant that hundreds come from all around and as has been said, nothing goes to waste.

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posted 28 July 2013 06:41 Hide Post
No one likes a lawyer until they need one. when you do, and most of us will at some point, you will change your tune.

Better yet is when a loose lipped guy like JDollar has a kid who can't get into law school and goes groveling to every lawyer he has ever met to write a letter of recommendation to the admissions officer for his dumb kid. Happens all the time.

thank God for the sake of the gene pool, i don't have any kids- but if i did and they wanted to be a lawyer, i would advise them to go into a similar profession- prostitution. similar outcome- sell yourself to anyone who can afford the fee.....

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Originally posted by 505G:
I should have worded my post better.

I didn't mean they (non hunters) should have to look at the photos, I meant that hundreds come from all around and as has been said, nothing goes to waste.

I knew just what you meant. You may have thought that I was disagreeing with you, but I was not. I was simply pointing out that photos are not needed because most non hunters have never even given a though to the fact that most Africans do not have the wealth to eat meat on a regular basis.

Once you explain that Africa is a protein starved continent and describe the facts of how meat is never wasted the non hunter usually gets that "lightbulb" look of realization and says something like, "well I never really thought about it like that..."

The truth is that most non hunters(and a lot of hunters who don't know Africa) think that all the meat from the animal we kill is just left to rot in the sun.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
thank God for the sake of the gene pool, i don't have any kids- but if i did and they wanted to be a lawyer, i would advise them to go into a similar profession- prostitution. similar outcome- sell yourself to anyone who can afford the fee.....

I believe there are good and bad lawyers. I happen to know a few that would fit into each category.

For the lawyers on this thread to get as upset as they are, I wonder if they see some truth in the negative stuff that is being posted. What does that say about their conscience?

As the old saying goes, "the truth hurts".