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When I go to Namibia and hopefully get my zebra, not to mention all my other goodies (kudu, springbok, gemsbok, warthog, baboon, impala) I was wondering if a Zebra skin rug/wall hanging would entail any special permits, paperwork, etc. to get back to the US. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt | ||
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If it is a Hartmann's Mountain Zebra, I believe you will need a CITES export permit from Namibia which your PH should supply. ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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John: The only one that you have listed that will require special licenses (both export from Namibia and import in the US) is the CITES II Hartmann's Zebra, which, of course, you will declare as personal effects. Your PH and whoever prepares your trophies for shipping will help you with all the necessary paperwork. Whether you have your mounts done in Namibia or the US, you have to know that you are going to be in for a pretty healthy taxidermy bill from all the animals you plan to take. Namibiahunter  . | |||
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Going Euro mount on ALL of them except the Zebra skin. The prices that I am seeing aren't too terribly bad over there in Windhoek with Nyati. I may just have them dip/pack the skulls/horns and ship them to me without mounting (I can do that myself) and then have them ship the zebra skin when done.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by JohnCrighton: Going Euro mount on ALL of them except the Zebra skin. The prices that I am seeing aren't too terribly bad over there in Windhoek with Nyati. I may just have them dip/pack the skulls/horns and ship them to me without mounting (I can do that myself) and then have them ship the zebra skin when done. [QUOTE] John, I have not used them, but you should read this report before using Nyati. Nyati Taxidermy ____________________________________________ "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchett. | |||
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Maybe I missed it in the posts, but I didn't really see much negative about Nyati. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorius triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat. - Theodore Roosevelt | |||
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Namibian hunter and John; Just returned from Namibia in June. Took a Hartmans Zebra and there is NO CITES permit needed for import into the USA. Only the export permit from over there is required. My trophies should arrive in the next day or two, Zebra rug included. The only animals requiring a CITES permit from Namibia to USA for import at this time are the Leopard and Elephant I do believe. Larry Sellers
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Larry: Thanks for clearing that up for me. It'll save some paper work (on the US side) when I bring my Hartmanns back next year - that is, if I'm lucky enough to bag one. Who handled your shipping from Namibia? Namibiahunter . | |||
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If you take a real nice kudu or gemsbok you will never regret having a good shoulder mount done. Yeah it costs more. On your third or fourth +55 inch kudu you can go back to Euro mounts. _________________________________ AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim. | |||
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I obviously agree with Wink about the beauty of a Kudu shoulder mount. But before you have one done, make sure you have a place to hang it. Compared to most other mounts, a Kudu is one of the few that is (almost) too large to hang on a wall of regular height (7-8 ft). A pedestal might work in a room with regular ceilings, but perhaps you better speak to your wife about that option first...  - mike ********************* The rifle is a noble weapon... It entices its bearer into primeval forests, into mountains and deserts untenanted by man. - Horace Kephart | |||
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Nhunter - No problem glad to help. The Hartmanns Zebra are really cool and a blast to hunt. In most cases you really have to "hunt" them and they always seem to be in the steepest, roughest terrian around. Who are you hunting with in Nam? I am sure with a little hard work and some (luck) you will score on your Zebra. I used African Shipping Services; PO Box 20774; Windhoek, Namibia for my stuff. Contact is Rainer Sentefol at (+264 61) 305 821; mobile is (+264 81) 306 3025 and their e-contact is www.madeinafrica-online.com Very helpful easy to contact and get a response from. My PH is the one that set it up on that end. I am using Coppersmith in Dallas, Tex for the import/clearing stuff. Hope this helps. Larry Sellers
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Larry, Would you mind sharing what you had shipped home and the shipping costs? BTW did you use to rep archery products? | |||
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I am also using African Shipping Services out of Windhoek and here are my charges. Considering that $485.00 of this are for Tanning the Zebra skin and the 4 Euro mounts, I think Rainer's prices are very resonable. By airfreight prepaid (telegraphic / wire transfer necessary) 1 (one) carton-box / 24.0 kg / 56.0 kg chargeable weight / dims. 79x62x68 cm Pre-carriage charges and cartage to Windhoek Intl. Airport, handling, labelling, and incl. 1 set Wildlife / Cites and Veterinary export permits and certificates, plus the necessary veterinary transit certificates for 3rd countries USD163.00 Packing / crating charges USD80.00 Skin tanning at Nakara USD300.00 4 x skulls mounts on boards USD185.00 Airfreight from Windhoek up to Atlanta Airport, based on a chargeable weight of 56.0 kg USD504.00 Basic transport insurance cover (cost of replacement value of trophies and transport only and excluding excess / and is optional) USD60.00 Total amount due USD1292.00 | |||
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Therein lies the problem - we live in an older Florida home built to hold up to hurricanes, and as such it has only 7 foot ceilings. Add to that a number of very inquisitive and destructive cats, it doesn't bode well for a shoulder mount 
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DD - is the same company doing the tanning, mounting, dip/packing? Or just the shipping service part of it? My PH and outfitter are currently using Nyati in Windhoek for the dip/pack, tanning, etc. But I don't know yet who they recommend for the actual shipping. And do any of your costs include a "broker" - I assume the broker is for help in clearing customs and helping with overseeing everything, paperwork, etc.?
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Broker costs are separate. I'm using Coppersmith. No African Shipping is not doing the Tanning and mounts. The Tanning is being done by Nakara in Windhoek and the Mounts were done by a Taxedermist my PH uses. Nyati was not recommended by my PH and when I visited their shop I seen the reason why. | |||
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John: Even if you don't have ceiling room in your house for your trophies I think that at least the kudu and the oryx should be shoulder mounted. Those two are among some of the most beautiful of trophies (if mounted properly). A friend of mine who does not have room left in his house for additional trophies has allowed a local sporting goods shop to display his heads, which the shop does for free because it brings so many "oohs and ahhs" from their customers. I'll be hunting with my friends Armin Fietz and Jochen Neubrech and their friends in and around their conservancy in the western Kalahari and also in the Khomas highlands. Thanks, Larry and Devildawg66, for the info and cost breakdown on shipping. I still have 3 heads to bring back. Less than 3 1/2 months left and I will be back in Namibia. My gear and clothing are already packed. You think I'm anxious to go? Namibiahunter . | |||
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John: Your notion of doing Euro mounts is an excellent one. My outfitter, http://www.namhunt.de/en/huntstart.html, did all of the trophy preparation, including bleaching all of the skulls, for the princely sum of 10 Euros per animal (all of which goes to the camp laborers as their tip). So, for $15, you get a ready-to-hang skull mount. The skull mounts are much more "displayable" in the typical household, and even make nice decorations on a covered patio or veranda as they are fairly weather-resistant. However, despite spending nothing or virtually nothing on Euro mounts, the shipping will make your toes curl, anyway. Good luck with your hunt! | |||
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I don't want to start an argument, but CITES permit is certainly required for Hartmann's Zebra. I just came from Swiss Air Cargo at LAX yesterday at noon with my trophies from Sept '06 which included a Mountain Zebra rug. Clearly listed on the USFWS form is the CITES permit number for that skin. But, it is not a source of concern for Namibian hunters as the PH will issue it when the trophy is taken. Dave "What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value." -Thomas Paine, "American Crisis" | |||
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mho is so right about Kudu shoulder mounts, and you need to add the Gemsbok to that problem too. The Namibian Gemsbok are huge. I very much would like to have one of those 35-40 inch Gemsbok, but I don't know where I would put it. Then, I have a 55+ Kudu who dominates the living room. You really do need to plan where you are going to place your trophies as you plan your hunting menu! On the other hand a shoulder mount Kudu is a marvelous trophy. Happy Hunting !!  | |||
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The permit you speak of is the one from the Namibia side of things. They issue it there upon shipment. There is NO CITES (USA issued) required for importation into the USA. Two clearly different situations. Leopard for instance requires a (USA issued) permit to be in place before entry into the USA is allowed, not so with the Hartmann's. Hope this clears it up for everyone? If not contact USFWS and hear it directly from them. Larry Sellers
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elkfitter - Yes to the rep question. PM me with additional info. My/our shipment contained 5 kudu skulls and capes, one Springbuck horns and cape, one Zebra rug (finished). Total chargeable weight is 92.5 KG. The Zebra rug was $225 USD, $25 USD for Namibian export CITES permit for the Zebra. All told just over $1,200 USD total delivered to DFW in Dallas. Coppersmith is being used for import clearing and shipment on to Albuquerque. Don't have that expense yet, as trophies are scheduled to arrive there on Dec 8. As Ddawg posted a wire transfer was necessary to prepay the shipping, and additional costs involved. I personally like the prepay idea as you know upfront what the "actual" shipping cost is, so there is no chance of "additional" costs being added somewhere along the line for it. Hope this helps!! Larry Sellers
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