Just returned from sci reno where i looked at a ruger express in 458 lott. How does this round compare with the others in its class? I already have a 375 so im looking for a heavy. Can i buy factory ammo or is it strictly a reload?

I just ordered a box of factory 458 lott ammo. I just purchased a Ruger #1. The ammo is by hornady.They also offer reloading brass at a reasonable price.

I have the Hornady ammo in stock already.

As far as other 458s, its not up there with the Weatherby or the Dakota. But as Ray A. mentioned, you can get an honest 2300+ and most likely 2350 in reloads.

So how much more do you need...

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ALF,

I would venture to say that the problem the candidates were having was due to not being used to the rifles they were using. I have two M77 Magnum models, a .375 H&H and a .416 Rigby(a third a .450 Rigby is in progress), and it took me a few times shooting to get used to the longer throw of my .416. Now there is no problem, feeds correctly every time. They were not offering the Lott when I made my decision on the .450 Rigby, almost wish I had waited.......on second though I guess not. Lawdog

Alf,

Not doubting you but how did that data come to you? How recent is it? I am always curious about this type of info. Having been a firearm instructor for a police agency for going on 14 years, I am always curious about the the source of data.

One reason is 90+ percent of the malfunctions I have seen are operator error or a dirty weapon. Followed by 90+ percent % of the time when I hear about it a few days later it is suddenly a bad weapon.

[ 02-03-2003, 08:55: Message edited by: Mike Dettorre ]

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I consider the Ruger 77 Safari, the best factory rifle out there, but like any DGR, out of the box, it should have a complete going over...Polish the rails, check the feed and extract and make it 110%, glass bed the rifle, add cross bolts if needed, check the accuracy and sight the iron sights in...fix what is wrong before you have a malfunction.

As I recall the old pre war FN 375 was the top dog at Heaths contest...I happen to have a very nice one for sale BTW, has Talley fitted bases, and Don Heath is right, it feeds, extracts, shoots well and is a great DGR, but with my newly finished Holland and Holland 375 I am parting with it. I ran an add in the Gunlist last week.