When did Hornady change from 410 to 400 grain bullets and about what year did they stop making the steel jacketed FMJ's?

Just bought a box of the 410s and am wondering just how old they are.

Thanks, Joe.

JMac,
I don't recall Hornady ever making a 410 solid...They have for years made a fine 400 gr. solid and just changed it about last year...the new ones will state "Encapsulated" on the box and are as yet unproven as far as I know...Why these guys fix things that ain't broke is beyond me unless material is the problem...I suspect you have the old ones, the new ones are almost gold in color I understand.

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Ray Atkinson

ray@atkinsonhunting.com
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The Hornady solids in 375 are gold in color, and look almost like the brass case. It's kind of weird looking 'cause I am used to seeing copper jacketed bullets.

Hornady made the initial run of 410 FMJs for Federal when they first started marketing the round. they are a rare find indeed. I have one box of 50 left and I plan using them on a buffalo hunt I'm planning for 04. The 400s are just as good probably, but they too are now out of production. I haven't heard too many specifics on the new rounds, but the old FMJs enjoyed a great reputation for holding together. jorge

I bought these over the internet, so I don't have them in my curious paws yet, but the box is stamped:
416 Rigby
FMJ 410 GR.

George Hoffman mentioned 410 grain Hornady solids in his book, and I found reference to them in some magazine articles. I am thinking they predate the 416 Remington and whenever the industry "standardized" on 400 grains.

We'll know more when they get here.

Thanks all, Joe.

Joe and Ray,

The 410 gr was first used by Hornady I think because the good old steel jacketed Kynoch was 410 gr.

I recently shot these 416 Kynoch 410 gr FMJ's into my stop box of 3/4 inch pine boards spaced 3/4 inch apart and they had as much penetration with a 1-10 twist as a 458 x 404 with 1-10 and 500 gr Hornady FMJ.

(71 boards). they penetrated absolutely straight, no tipping.

Andy

I have a lot of the old Hornady 400's and about 10 boxes of the 410 gr. soft and solid bullets by Federal??, I recall they were sold on sale by the bag full at a very cheap price..but I am thinking they were made by Woodleigh but ???????

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Ray Atkinson

ray@atkinsonhunting.com
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I now have the bullets and they are in fact 410 grains and steel jacketed. The cannelure is located about .070-.080" lower than where it would be for a Remington.

I e-mailed Hornady and was told that Hornady has always manufactured 400 grain 416 bullets and if I had 410 grain bullets, they were part of a special run.

They also said that the change from steel jacketed to brass encapsulated came in about 1999.

Just wanted to let folks know, as I'm sure people have been staying up and loosing sleep over this matter.

Thanks for the responses, Joe.

Gentlemen:
Hornady did indeed, make 410 gr. FMJ's I still have 600 hundred or more in my supply.
These were made for B.E.L.L. and that is where I got my first ones. Later Trophy Bonded bullet company wound up with several thousand of those that remained. I bought the last 600 that I wanted for less than .50
cents apiece. When hornady started up again
they were only made in the 400 gr weight.
In my opinion they were never as good as the
the arignals made for BELL.

Ray. I am still in Alanta, GA but only have two days of treatment left. I will head back to Texas on tomorrow. Then I can talk with you fellows and catch up on wha is going on.

George

[This message has been edited by George Hoffman (edited 05-20-2002).]