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AR upington party?
08 December 2006, 22:44
ndlovuAR upington party?
it was mentioned in Jaco Humans' post about facts of RSA that there sould be a AR get together in RSA in Upington. im finding it difficult to follow the response to that suggestion in there so i figured i'll start the link and then one can see what the response is and people can take it from there?
anticipation of fear is worse than fear itself
08 December 2006, 22:48
Safari-HuntWhen, I suppose will be the big question as it will have to be before hunting season or after ?
But it sounds like a blast I have place for two people in my double cab we can share the petrol and so on. For anyone in Gauteng who would like to go.
I've never been in Upington so it would be great while we are there to organise a shoot or something as well.
Frederik Cocquyt
I always try to use enough gun but then sometimes a brainshot works just as good.
08 December 2006, 22:56
ndlovuwe can even meet somewhere in gauteng and drive down in a convoy and stop at every bushpub we find.... im a newbie here in this room, so i'll let the "ou manne" decide what where and when and i'll fall in with you guys.
anticipation of fear is worse than fear itself
08 December 2006, 23:05
Jaco HumanWhat do you mean "Bushpub", we create our own

. We travel in a convoy, it is a long way there, spread it out over 2 days. We can have plenty of braai's along the road and visit all the nice places. We will have to get KarlS involved, he got the contacts. Otherwise we must find another nice place where there is peace and quiet.
Life is how you spend the time between hunting trips.
Through Responsible Sustainable hunting we serve Conservation.
Outfitter permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/73984
PH permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/81197
Jaco Human
SA Hunting Experience
jacohu@mweb.co.za
www.sahuntexp.com 09 December 2006, 01:04
Karl SI'm in, depending on the dates of course! would prefer April or even earlier.
Karl Stumpfe
Ndumo Hunting Safaris
www.huntingsafaris.netkarl@huntingsafaris.net
P.O. Box 1667, Katima Mulilo, Namibia
Cell: +264 81 1285 416
Fax: +264 61 254 328
Sat. phone: +88 163 166 9264
09 December 2006, 07:28
Andrew McLarenDepending on dates I'm in.
Is this a SADC AR party? Then Uppington is not so bad a choice. If is is only a South African AR party, then Bloemfontein would be a better choice.
Considering the responses of being "in" so far: Safari-Hunt = Pretoria, Jaco = Pretoria, ndlovu = ?, Karl = Bloemfontein, self = Soutpan(Bloemfontein) the logical place to minimize distance for all would be nearer Kroonstad than anywhere else.
Golden Gate comes to mind as an alternative venue? But if it has to be Uppington, well OK, it's just not on my way anywhere!
Why don't we take up Karl's offer for a springbok cull hunt very early in the season so we all have some biltong for our first hunters later in the season?
In good hunting.
Andrew McLaren
10 December 2006, 00:17
ndlovuim from krugerdorp, west rand, or is it now called mogale city...i cant keep up with the name changes. im easy either way, anywhere will be good. have wheels..will travel
anticipation of fear is worse than fear itself
10 December 2006, 01:31
kayakerI would definately be in, but due to my 'foreign studies' will probably miss the first one...BUT we should make it annual!!!
I reckon a springuck hunt would be great, a morning shoot followed by liver on veld braai would be fantastic!
Perhaps an AR-SA/SADC springbuck 'one-shot'?
I like the idea of the road side braais and camping Jaco mentioned.
this is a good idea...!
Goldengate would be great to. I am typically living in PTA or Parys
10 December 2006, 09:33
Jaco HumanKayaker, Living in PTA, when do you come over for a beer?
Life is how you spend the time between hunting trips.
Through Responsible Sustainable hunting we serve Conservation.
Outfitter permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/73984
PH permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/81197
Jaco Human
SA Hunting Experience
jacohu@mweb.co.za
www.sahuntexp.com 10 December 2006, 15:30
infinitoNdlovu, me and Karl S discussed this in PM's earlier this week! Upington is a great choice, and JAco I agree, the trip will be great fun spread over two days. The problem is the timing, to get everyone together on a suitable date. I'm in Groblersdal, Mpumalanga before, and now Limpopo, but we are still not sure...

Carl said he would organise a Springbok hunt. Then we can hunt and do all the rest of the stuff we all know to well...... With respect Allen, how crazy do you think we will get driving around at Golden Gate?! All those animals, and we are not allowed to shoot.....

No, I agree, lets make it a biltong outing as you suggested.
I can not do anything untill late August, but there is one week in April that looks sort of OK....
This can be real fun. Lets make it AR SADC PH's thing, or we can invite some of the other SA members on the forum that are not PH's......
Cheers
Charl
Charl van Rooyen
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10 December 2006, 18:16
Die Ou JagterFrom a Yankee's point of view it sounds great, especially Springbok liver on the grill. This is always one of the high points of my annual hunt in Africa either Springbok liver or Impala liver with eggs, I could survive without the eggs!
11 December 2006, 00:15
kayakerJaco,
I would be there for a beer like shot! I am curretly finishing a MSc in Canada...but will DEFINATELY take you up on your offer when home next year!
Thanks!

11 December 2006, 12:06
RikkieYou guys got room for a Jo'burger on this trip?
11 December 2006, 13:47
Safari-HuntGuys we have to act quickly and get a date organized I'm starting to take bookings for videos in April already.
I think 3 days would be better 2 days driving one day for shooting.
And like I said I have space for 2 extra in my bakkie if we split the costs. 4 People in a double cab gets too uncomfortable.
Frederik Cocquyt
I always try to use enough gun but then sometimes a brainshot works just as good.
11 December 2006, 14:13
kamaatuWhat about October? Seems like most of you guys are from and around Tswane. (Who came up with that shit name?) Anybody got another suggestion for a good place?
11 December 2006, 15:34
500nitrodamn, there we go again. Us poor Dbn souties have to add another 400 plus kilos to the trip.
I also vote Bloem or Kroonstad.
11 December 2006, 15:43
Jaco Humanquote:
Originally posted by kamaatu:
(Who came up with that shit name?)
You have got 1 guess only, if you are wrong

Life is how you spend the time between hunting trips.
Through Responsible Sustainable hunting we serve Conservation.
Outfitter permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/73984
PH permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/81197
Jaco Human
SA Hunting Experience
jacohu@mweb.co.za
www.sahuntexp.com 11 December 2006, 17:26
infinitoLet's nominate 1 person to organise the trip and venue. I nominate Jaco.....

I like the idea of going with Karl S to shoot Sbok. Also, are we making this a PH thing, or any AR members in SA? I think PH's only for now......
Charl van Rooyen
Owner
Infinito Travel Group
www.infinito-safaris.comcharl@infinito-safaris.com
Cell: +27 78 444 7661
Tel: +27 13 262 4077
Fax:+27 13 262 3845
Hereford Street 28A
Groblersdal
0470
Limpopo
R.S.A.
"For the Infinite adventure"
Plains Game
Dangerous Game
Bucket List Specialists
Wing-Shooting
In House Taxidermy Studio
In House Dip and Pack Facility
In House Shipping Service
Non-Hunting Tours and Safaris
Flight bookings
"I promise every hunter visiting us our personal attention from the moment we meet you, until your trophies hang on your wall. Our all inclusive service chain means you work with one person (me) taking responsibility during the whole process. Affordable and reputable Hunting Safaris is our game! With a our all inclusive door to door service, who else do you want to have fun with?"
South Africa
Tanzania
Uganda
11 December 2006, 18:15
Karl SI can orginise good springbok (200km) or blesbok & springbok (80km) close to Bloemfontein. If no other Namibian guys want to join in, Bloem might be better, as my wife lives there, so I am there when off.
I would not restrict it to PH's only, I would trow it open for anybody interested.
Karl Stumpfe
Ndumo Hunting Safaris
www.huntingsafaris.netkarl@huntingsafaris.net
P.O. Box 1667, Katima Mulilo, Namibia
Cell: +264 81 1285 416
Fax: +264 61 254 328
Sat. phone: +88 163 166 9264
11 December 2006, 18:51
kamaatuJaco, could that have been my hero personal hero Jacob Zuma?

Anybody else in from Nambabwe?
11 December 2006, 19:25
Karl Skamaatu, depends on the time of year where I am. From about March/ April I will be in Namibia, between Windhoek, Gochas and Grootfontein
Karl Stumpfe
Ndumo Hunting Safaris
www.huntingsafaris.netkarl@huntingsafaris.net
P.O. Box 1667, Katima Mulilo, Namibia
Cell: +264 81 1285 416
Fax: +264 61 254 328
Sat. phone: +88 163 166 9264
12 December 2006, 00:43
ndlovumy dates for the training i want to do is middle march beginning april next year ( either ian goss or melville du plessis for ph training, in 2 minds with whom i should go ). im only in SA for that period, 28 days, then im back in iraq untill july and then again november. but i will follow this message and see if i can fit in somewhere.
anticipation of fear is worse than fear itself
12 December 2006, 01:14
kayakerNdlovu...
I worked for Ian Goss some years ago while doing a Nat. Con diploma and sat through the PH course with his students.
I may be biased, but I don't think you could do better than Ian.
He is a great man, full of knowledge and a good teacher...
12 December 2006, 01:25
Karl SIan Goss is a super choice, the only one I know of that actually fails the students not good enough. Another reccommendation is Kobus Schoeman, because of the humor.
Karl Stumpfe
Ndumo Hunting Safaris
www.huntingsafaris.netkarl@huntingsafaris.net
P.O. Box 1667, Katima Mulilo, Namibia
Cell: +264 81 1285 416
Fax: +264 61 254 328
Sat. phone: +88 163 166 9264
12 December 2006, 07:21
kayakeryes, when I was there (over a decade ago

, Ian failed a few students...hell, he failed me!!
I was 20 at the time, I passed almost everything with flying colours...but his reason was simply that I needed to apprentice more with an active outfit before I could guide paying clients. I learnt the big difference between huning for myslf and hunting for someone else and was good enough at it! He 'failed' the other 20 year old too. In fact not failed, but we were told to re-test the guided hunt (for free) after a learning interim. As far as I am concerned he is right..he is not in it for the money, thats why he only does 4 per year and one a month!
(I never followed that...my wildlife path went elsewhere, but the lessons stayed with me!)
He maintains he doesn't just offer you a course..he gives you a long evaluation..this he begins the day you cal him..honest. Essentially I think he sees his course as the exam. You should arrive having taken an appreticeship or have worked for an active outfit...
You will gain a lot from him!!
Yes, he does fail people more than others, or as he says..."I don't fail people, I just get them to become better before I pass them!"
12 December 2006, 15:46
schmidieHello Gents
I think the SA AR meeting is a great plan, I am not a Ph but I am a Hunting lover, Bush lover ( I know, which bush am I refering to ? we can discuss that on the trip ) liver eating South African (soutie) It would be an honour to meet up with you gent's.
Are you guy's looking at doing this over a long weekend ?
Howzit Jaco are you around over the festive season ? we should get together for a cold one ?
Cheers
schmidie
"opie-knoppe"
12 December 2006, 18:34
Jaco HumanHi Schmidie,
I was wondering what happened to you. I am leaving on a hunt on Thursday and will be back by the 20th. What about a braai after that.
Life is how you spend the time between hunting trips.
Through Responsible Sustainable hunting we serve Conservation.
Outfitter permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/73984
PH permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/81197
Jaco Human
SA Hunting Experience
jacohu@mweb.co.za
www.sahuntexp.com 12 December 2006, 20:02
Pete MillanI am bok, depending on the SAHRSA competition schedule and any other stuff. July school hols are good. Mix it with a cull hunt, sounds good.
Pete
If Chuck Norris dives into a swimming pool, he does not get wet. The swimming pool gets Chuck Norris.
13 December 2006, 11:42
schmidieHey Jaco
Yes, I have been lurking around. I am working till the 22nd so yes I will be around let's organise something even if it is a cold beer or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 .......... have you been to the new " bosvelder " ? it is pretty easy to get away from work at the moment being so quiet.
Hey Frederik hoe lyk dit met n koue biertjie ?
Cheers
schmidie
" opie-knoppe "
13 December 2006, 11:54
shakariIf rooineks are included, I might be up for this - but a lot will depend on where and when.... let me know guys!

13 December 2006, 12:21
ghundwanThis sounds like an awesome plan, I am not a PH either but will enjoy a couple of beers and a bit of springbuck liver. I am in Gauteng and could also offer 2 a lift in a d/c
The new bosvelder is very nice, cold beer, good food, often take client there !
13 December 2006, 12:31
Safari-Huntschmidie,
Untill when are you off the bushpigs in warmbath are getting fat on the mealies must make a plan.
cheers
Frederik Cocquyt
I always try to use enough gun but then sometimes a brainshot works just as good.
13 December 2006, 12:59
schmidieHowzit Frederik
I am back to work on the 2nd so it is just for the week !!!
But lets talk maybe we can go up for a day or night that would be fun.
are you working?
Cheers
schmidie
13 December 2006, 13:25
Safari-HuntSchmidie,
I've got some extra time from next week so let me know.
But a day and night should be fine hopefully the weather will play along
Frederik Cocquyt
I always try to use enough gun but then sometimes a brainshot works just as good.
13 December 2006, 16:22
Jaco HumanI am off gor a week, I want to make a suggestion.
A lot of the members in RSA are ph's and one does not always know when you will be available.
Think about the following:
Do we just want to get together and meet each other or do we want to organise a short hunt?
Which place will be the most convenient, a place that will suit most of the RSA members.
When is the best time that will suit you.
Either post your ideas or pm it to me. I will then try to analise it and post the outcome, then we can start planning it.
Steve you will only be allowed if you have a certificate that proofs that you are a geniune "SOUTIE". I can issue them at a price

Life is how you spend the time between hunting trips.
Through Responsible Sustainable hunting we serve Conservation.
Outfitter permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/73984
PH permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/81197
Jaco Human
SA Hunting Experience
jacohu@mweb.co.za
www.sahuntexp.com 13 December 2006, 16:39
shakariHey Jaco,
Sounds good to me - I take it the price is a bottle of the good stuff?

13 December 2006, 21:58
Jaco Humanquote:
Originally posted by shakari:
Hey Jaco,
Sounds good to me - I take it the price is a bottle of the good stuff?
How did you guess, it is about time we get together and share something cold.

Life is how you spend the time between hunting trips.
Through Responsible Sustainable hunting we serve Conservation.
Outfitter permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/73984
PH permit no. Limpopo ZA/LP/81197
Jaco Human
SA Hunting Experience
jacohu@mweb.co.za
www.sahuntexp.com 13 December 2006, 22:02
shakariYou bet!
