Just read a article. Sounds like he is going to hell!!!!

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Originally posted by chuckmaxman:
Just read a article. Sounds like he is going to hell!!!!

........... Good riddance!

................................................................. Make room in that grave for his wife and his main henchmen!

Don't celebrate too much.

This is Africa and hard as it may be to believe, what follows could well be worse.

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Originally posted by Bren7X64:
Don't celebrate too much.

This is Africa and hard as it may be to believe, what follows could well be worse.

How true. At least with Mugabe everyone knew what to expect. The unknown variable is how many want to fill his vacancy and what will they do to get it?
Cal

Exactly. Are we ready for Grace?

Can't be true.
Uncle Bob has no heart

Bob is back !!

Buzz, whats the prevailing thought over there when Mugabe id dead....a smooth transition to his wife?

If he's going to Hell it must be in the motorcade that ran me off the road yesterday in Harare

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Originally posted by chuckmaxman:
Just read a article. Sounds like he is going to hell!!!!

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Originally posted by Leopardtrack:
Buzz, whats the prevailing thought over there when Mugabe id dead....a smooth transition to his wife?

Do you really want Buzz to comment on a President of that type?

I do hope his Vet has plenty in stock of whatever they use nowadays to put animals down. I would hate to think he suffers to much.

Most caring farmers rely on a flying visit from Dr Eley when something requires putting down or vermin invades their land.

Totally unfair to ask someone in Zim these sorts of questions. Last I heard, Mugabe was alive and well. Frankly, these questions are inappropriate regardless. You look like a bunch of vultures.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
Totally unfair to ask someone in Zim these sorts of questions. Last I heard, Mugabe was alive and well. Frankly, these questions are inappropriate regardless. You look like a bunch of vultures.

Inappropriate?? Why? There is no bad in my intent. I have been to Zim 4 times and is my favorite place on this earth. I love Zimbabwe deeply and I want it to thrive....I want to go back!

I am hoping that a transition goes smoothly and am asking the opinion of a native.

What's the problem?

Asking someone who lives there to comment publicly on the politics of the situation puts them in an awkward position. They can't agree with you -- They have to live there. That's my point!

This is a classic case of choosing between the devil you know versus the devil you don't know.

Mugabe will not long be remembered, but he will be remembered, if at all, as a murderer, a liar and a thief.

Whoever follows him would do well to keep that in mind.

I could be wrong, but I will always choose the devil I don't know, as opposed to a devil I do know, like Mugabe, because I am a long-term optimist.

As Dr. King once said, "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice."

No Luck.

http://www.reuters.com/article...mugabe-idUSKCN0V105J
Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe returned home late on Friday after a month-long holiday in the Far East, just over a week after the presidency dismissed rumors that Africa's oldest president had suffered a heart attack and collapsed.

Mugabe, who turns 92 on Feb. 21, is the only leader that the Southern African nation has ever known, and his health is being closely watched in and outside his ruling party, ZANU-PF. The party is deeply divided over who will eventually succeed him.

The president was shown on the state television network, ZBC, arriving with his wife Grace and several security aides at Harare Airport, where he was met by one of his vice presidents, Emmerson Mnangagwa, cabinet ministers and security chiefs. Mugabe did not speak to journalists from ZBC or the state-owned press. .

Reports about the declining health of Mugabe, who is showing signs of his advancing age, are common, but he likes to describe himself as "fit as a fiddle."

On Saturday, Mugabe will meet another long-ruling African leader, Equatorial Guinea's Teodoro Obiang Nguema, who arrived in Zimbabwe on Friday on a three-day official state visit.

In 2014 Mugabe was re-elected to lead ZANU-PF for another five years, automatically making him the party's presidential candidate in the next general elections, in 2018.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
Asking someone who lives there to comment publicly on the politics of the situation puts them in an awkward position. They can't agree with you -- They have to live there. That's my point!

I totally understand that...apologies to Buzz!

Lacava, I wish that you said this in your 1st reply...

Leopard Track- no appologies needed. I have given up trying to second guess African politics as I have got it wrong so often!! Your guess would be as good as mine!

Thanks Buzz! My intent wasn't to put you in a bad spot but I realize now that the wrong answer could have!

I have been to your beautiful country 3X and it is my favorite place on earth.

I hope it all works out!

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
This is a classic case of choosing between the devil you know versus the devil you don't know.

Mugabe will not long be remembered, but he will be remembered, if at all, as a murderer, a liar and a thief.

Whoever follows him would do well to keep that in mind.

I could be wrong, but I will always choose the devil I don't know, as opposed to a devil I do know, like Mugabe, because I am a long-term optimist.

As Dr. King once said, "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice."

Agreed.

In most things, there is a regression toward the mean.

May the winds be kind to those affected, when the change happens.

This is all very much about blame. In Zimbabwe, the Ian Smith government is still being blamed for everything. As "colonialism" was blamed for Zambia's ills at dependence (I use that term because in most cases it is when a country officially becomes dependent on foreign aid and hand-outs) When Frederick Chiluba was elected, everybody blamed everything on Kaunda, and so on. Once Mugabe is gone, what ails the country will be blamed on him, but for now, there is no one else to blame. I suppose it is also worth remembering that when a country has been ruled despotically (and Zim isn't too bad as long as you don't say The King is a Fink) and it returns to democracy, that is perhaps its most dangerous time.

Grace? I think not.

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Originally posted by Barry Groulx:
This is all very much about blame. In Zimbabwe, the Ian Smith government is still being blamed for everything.

In South Africa they blame Jan van Riebeeck and Cecil John Rhodes.

They will blame anything and everyone but never take responsibility for their own failures. TIA.