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10 December 2008, 01:07
JPK
Cartridge wallets for big game rounds
Patek Philippe get my vote. The Dual Time model, so you know what time it is back at home and back in the office.

JPK


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10 December 2008, 01:55
tendrams
The ultimate luxury? Not having to know the time.
10 December 2008, 02:06
Boss Hoss
quote:
Originally posted by tendrams:
The ultimate luxury? Not having to know the time.


DING --- We have a winner here!!
10 December 2008, 06:12
Peter
Well, at least we got off the cartridge wallet topic!!!!! Next we need to talk about sidearms. No one wanders in the field in the USA without one (and a good Bowie knife), plus of course, the pervasive GPS and the rucksack full of survival gear including sat phones, magnesium fire starters etc. Now, this cannot be left in the truck, of course, as it serves no purpose there. Zeiss binoculars are of course mandatory (for spotting elephants).
Peter.


Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong;
10 December 2008, 07:04
lavaca
How this thread gravitated to watches is beyond me. But, while we're on the topic, all I really need to know is what time it is. Need to know it in the dark too. Why would I pay more than $200 bucks to do that? I raised my price because I got one of the SEALS watches recently and I love it. Used to be $100. Now a rifle ... practically anything can be rationalized.
10 December 2008, 07:12
JPK
quote:
Originally posted by Peter:
Zeiss binoculars are of course mandatory (for spotting elephants).
Peter.


No way, I use 8x32mm and 8x20mm Lieca binos, actually the same one I take to and use in Africa. Wouldn't give the Ziess the time of day from my multi zone Patek Philippe.

JPK


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10 December 2008, 07:19
doccash
Some people like and appreciate quality equipment while others are too utlitarian to do so.imo I feel sorry for the latter.Dr.C


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10 December 2008, 08:22
Mike_Dettorre
Dr. C,

Some people feed their ego by the price they pay for something.

I feel sorry for them.


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
10 December 2008, 08:57
pichon1
One thing will never change, boys will always need their toys, no matter how useless.

Hopefully it never changes. dancing
10 December 2008, 09:04
JPK
IMO, conspicuous consumption might be a $300 bottle of wine. But whatever it is it isn't owning a high quality anything which you use and which is perfect for the purpose and will last for decades.

A fine double rifle or custom bolt action which is a safe queen might be conspicuous consumption, but that same rifle in the hands of a fellow who uses it for its intended purpose, for which it is eminently suited isn't conspicuous consumption.

No different for a cartridge wallet, whether for use on whitetail hunts or elephant hunts.

Fewer, but better should be preferred over more, and average. More power to those who can swing more, and best. No denigration of those who need to live with fewer, and average. But lets hope that their situation is temporary, and overcome.

Nothing wrong with pride of ownership when it comes to top quality goods.

BTW, ordered the two covered six round slides I was looking for my 12ga slug gun hunting and for my son's 20 ga slug gun hunting. From Africase. Cost = $150 for both @ $75ea. Well worth the price I'm sure, just like the two round slide I use for softs for my double rifle. I'm sure I will appreciate the perfect utility and the quality of my 12ga slide a decade or two from now, and won't miss the $75. Better yet, I'll have spent $75 once rather than $15 or $20 five or six times.

Just maybe, when I'm gone, my son will recall our hunts when he pulls a couple of rounds from his slide, passed on to his son, and when he loads my old 12ga slide, by then his.

Some things are worth owning, others, well, you get by with them...

JPK


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10 December 2008, 09:55
pichon1
quote:
Originally posted by Peter:
Oh, BS! Everyone has a Rolex. Patek Phillipe perhaps, or in my case, and IWC. Rolex's are for plebians that don't know watches!
Peter.


Gee.....I didn't know that bewildered

Are you sure? Confused

I feel awful now. Frowner CRYBABY
10 December 2008, 11:12
ozhunter
quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
Dr. C,

Some people feed their ego by the price they pay for something.

I feel sorry for them.


I don't know about ego as I have f$&% all in the way of $$, but boy I love my toys, be it a nice rifle, Zeiss or Leica binos or just a well made Bullet belt or time piece.
Ps, last time in Jo Burg Air Port I picked up a lovely Mauice Lacroix. Not quite a Patek Philippe but nice all the same. Wink stir
10 December 2008, 11:55
MacD37
May I ask just what all this has done to help anyone?

MAN! This is one of the most childish threads I've had the pleasure of reading on AR, in some time!

This thread started out with scubapro , haveing been asked by people about the nice his quality ammo wallets, simply posting a link to where he bought them. Geeeze, what in hell is wrong with you guys? It make no difference what the wallets cost, if they are not worth it to you, it is simple, DON'T BUY THEM!

You may think what ever you want,about poeple who have bought these products, however, in my case I rarely spend a high price for anything, if I can get the same quality for less, with another brand. About the only place I spend what my seem a high price is for my double rifles. The only reason I spend the price for them is,because they don't come any cheaper than the ones I buy, and USE for their intended purpose.

My watch on Safari is usually either a TIMEX, or one of the little digitals, with a built in calculator, for use with exchange rates. The only time I look at the watch is while flying to, or from safari, and the best dress watch I own, for any purpose, is a Tag DIVER.

No wounder AR gets the bad mouth, on every web-site on the internet, with childish pissing contests going over dumb shit like this thread!

Come guys get a life! Let others buy what they can afford. Most people who go on Safari on a regular basis, can afford what ever they want, and are not poor retired working stiffs like me, and I see no need to put them down because they can afford it, and I can't. They do what they can afford, and I Make do with less, because that is what I can do. I know that if most of you could afford a high dollar automobile, you wouldn't be driveing a ten yr old Ford, or a Kia, no matter if both will get you down the highway, so why the stupid remarks about those who drive expencive cars? This has absolutely nothing to do with anything but envy, plain and simple!.........DUMB!

Grapes, that or out of reach, seem to always be sour anyway, RIGHT? Roll Eyes

.............. pissers pissers pissers You guys need to stay away for the diuretics you're going to ruin your kidneys! bewildered wave BYE!


....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1
DRSS Charter member
"If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982

Hands of Old Elmer Keith

10 December 2008, 17:57
Peter
MacD I think you may be over reacting! I think a lot of this (certainly my contributions) are meant to be "tongue in cheek" and all in fun. If AR gets a "bad rep" over this kind of thread then so be it.
Peter.


Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong;
10 December 2008, 18:35
white bison
"lavaca" is correct on watch utility...the neatest watch type is the type adopted by the Navy Seals...it uses a "Luminox" feature
which is actually little chemical lights that need no power & are always bright to see in total darkness.
I have one that I used as a Big Ship's Navigator for years when at night you don't want to shine any lights & ruin night vision,
also works great in a Leopard Blind.
Its certainly not a fancy watch...but its purpose & usefulness is clearly superior to the big name brands. Mine is pre-Seals, then
the Seals adopted the design & putit in a heavy case. My is nice & compact...looks 'regular' except for its chem-light Luminox
Swiss made feature.
Aloha,

Tom from Cody
10 December 2008, 19:20
Use Enough Gun
Thanks to this thread I just bought four of the six round Africase ammo holders from Aleko(even in light of the watch controversy). Big Grin
10 December 2008, 19:50
Mike_Dettorre
I think some folks here may need to work on developing their sense of irony and thier sense of hunor...

I am reminded of what the sales lady said when I went shopping with a girlfriend one day for clothes...."Accessorize, Accessorize, Accessorize".


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
10 December 2008, 19:54
tendrams
quote:
Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
"Accessorize, Accessorize, Accessorize".


Are you implying that African hunters are "gear queers"? SAY IT AINT SO!

Big Grin Wink Big Grin Wink
10 December 2008, 19:55
scubapro
quote:
Originally posted by Use Enough Gun:
Thanks to this thread I just bought four of the six round Africase ammo holders from Aleko(even in light of the watch controversy). Big Grin


Have always enough ammo!
Good luck - they are nice!
A gun without ammo is worthless
:-)
10 December 2008, 19:59
Wink
What this all leads to is the obvious unexploited market for a very well made, high end, leather case for your wristwatch to be worn on your belt when you take your Patek Philippe off so that it won't get scratched.


_________________________________

AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim.
10 December 2008, 20:16
tendrams
I think a waterproof, leather lined and covered case for the Patek would be perfect. Then you can hire a "watchbearer" to carry it and uncase as needed.
10 December 2008, 20:39
Jeff Wemmer
quote:
I think some folks here may need to work on developing their sense of irony and thier sense of hunor...


AMEN!

But to keep the pot boiling stir I'll add to the fray - why not, I have a great sense of humor ans skin thick as the BS contained in this thread Big Grin

The cartridge wallets look great to me and I'm the competition Eeker

As for watches - before I wised-up and got into high grade doubles, I was a Horologist's dream come true...

Patek - been there done that, short of the Aquanaut models they're just too fragile to be considered as effective tools for the field. Plus, I don't care to look like an old Swiss businessman!

Dozens of watches later; AP, Omega, JLC, Patek, VC, etc...The Rolex GMT II in SS is by far the best overall for travel - compact, relatively accurate, bombproof and no wimpy leather straps to fall apart when you least expect /need it to. Best 4500 bucks one can spend on a timepiece. On a budget: Casio G-Shok.

Any takers????

JW out
10 December 2008, 20:39
Peter
I refuse to buy any watch for my African safari unless it is approved by the SAS. Enough of this Seals BS!
Jeff that's quite a choice: either a Rolex GMT II or a Casio G shock!
Peter.


Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong;
10 December 2008, 20:46
Boss Hoss
HAHAHA!! Try a Panerai!!!!
10 December 2008, 20:53
Bill C
quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Wemmer: But to keep the pot boiling...
Speaking of Accccesssssories and think skin...I just wathed you on Ivan Carter's new DVD, boy you were all dialed up! The hat, gloves, glasses...I especially like the sleeveless safari shirt with ultra-hairy arm look! Big Grin

Okay seriously great clips, in fact Disk #1 is excellent so far.
10 December 2008, 21:09
tendrams
quote:
quite a choice: either a Rolex GMT II or a Casio G shock!
Peter.



I have owned a few watches mentioned on this thread and sold them all. I made a few bucks and redirected the cash. Ultimately, I just couldn't justify the expenditures when the funds could be put toward guns, ammo and hunting. Wink For 99.9% of all sportsman (perhaps Saeed is the only one to exclude from this on the board), the choice boils down to preening and primping or hunting. If some guys really enjoy the former, more power to them I guess but I just can't help seeing $300 worth of cartridge holders as a warthog or impala trophy fee.

That said, if funds were unlimited, and since I am stuck in a world (and income bracket) where I have to know the time, I think I could get by with two watches....

this Omega Aqua Terra...



and the new Rolex deep-sea.


10 December 2008, 21:16
Wink
quote:
Originally posted by tendrams:
I think a waterproof, leather lined and covered case for the Patek would be perfect. Then you can hire a "watchbearer" to carry it and uncase as needed.


500 grains used to post a picture of his watchbearer. Where is he when we need him?


_________________________________

AR, where the hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history become the nattering nabobs of negativisim.
10 December 2008, 21:18
Jeff Wemmer
quote:
Speaking of Accccesssssories and think skin...I just wathed you on Ivan Carter's new DVD, boy you were all dialed up! The hat, gloves, glasses...I especially like the sleeveless safari shirt with ultra-hairy arm look!


Hee-hee - Perfect response! thumb


Blad, Blistered, Blind and out of shape - What can I say....I did have fun though...

... CRYBABY

JW out
10 December 2008, 21:21
Jeff Wemmer
quote:
I refuse to buy any watch for my African safari unless it is approved by the SAS. Enough of this Seals BS!


THe SAS! Well, I'll give you that, but don't bust on OUR boys too hard...

....JW out
10 December 2008, 21:29
Use Enough Gun
Thanks to this thread (again) I just bought a Timex Expedition at Wal Mart for my next Safari. I'll leave the Rolex Presidential at home. dancing
10 December 2008, 21:32
Jeff Wemmer
quote:
I'll leave the Rolex Presidential at home.



Better yet, why don't you loan it to Obama before his Secret Police come snag it from your vault!!! lol
10 December 2008, 21:34
Use Enough Gun
He( or some other deserving person of little or no means) may get it anyway when he shares the wealth. rotflmo
11 December 2008, 02:39
Peter
quote:
THe SAS! Well, I'll give you that, but don't bust on OUR boys too hard

Not busting Jeff, just joking. Just about everything is Navy Seals watches, Seals exercise programs etc. etc. The "Perfect Pushup" was developed by a Navy Seal....
Peter.


Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong;
11 December 2008, 07:19
Use Enough Gun
God bless the Navy Seals. patriot
11 December 2008, 19:21
Jeff Wemmer
quote:
Posted 11 December 2008 02:39 Hide Post
quote:
THe SAS! Well, I'll give you that, but don't bust on OUR boys too hard


Peter,

No offense taken...Our boys have done a great job of making the most of their efforts, huh! I've spent time with both groups and at the end of the day they're just alike -God save the fool that steps in between them for a go!

Good thread!

JW out