Are there any large Limpopo game ranches for plains game? By "large" I mean at least 15,000 acres (6,000 hectares), and in one block. If anyone knows of some PM me or post on here. Thanks.

Game ranches are unfenced and game farms are fenced so you would be looking at fenced?

15,000 acres is not large by any means.

Any reason why Limpopo? there are some large game farms of over 100 000 acres with no internal fences that you can hunt in different parts of the country, if you interested pm me

I didn't know that about ranch vs farm. For something around 15,000 acres, I would want high fenced.

And I'm talking about a situation where you enter that one property and never exit it until the end of your hunt.

I'm open to something besides Limpopo, but I like the look of the photos I've seen of Limpopo (thorn veldt).

Poastoak
If you are interested in Natal I have three concessions of 50 000 acres each. Big 5 areas where you can hunt plains game as well as Buffalo if you like.
I have a cancellation on one of them you could cash in on, save you US 1500.

Any particular reason you were looking at Limpopo?
Cheers
Ian

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Originally posted by fairgame:
Game ranches are unfenced and game farms are fenced so you would be looking at fenced?

15,000 acres is not large by any means.

While it's probably always a mistake to dispute fairgame, I'd have to disagree in this case.

I would say that, in South Africa in general, (where virtually everything is fenced), a game-ranch refers to a hunting ranch (preferably 10,000 hectares minimum (25,000 acres+/-) though they do come smaller), and a game-farm refers to a relatively small holding where game is bred for sale or meat, but not hunting on-site.

I don't mind being corrected if I'm wrong on that, but that's how I understand it.

I agree that 15,000 acres not large, and unless I had a very good reason, I'd go for something two or three times that size (at least).

I've hunted KZN before and it was okay flora-wise but I got in a situation I'm trying to avoid in the future. I was told the property was 90,000 acres, but it turned out I was restricted to 5,000 acres. You only got to go onto the other 85,000 acres if you were after one of the Big 5. Oh, and the 5,000 acres were split in two by a highway.

I want one big block of land, no highway, that I will have full access to.

With these parameters, 15,000 acres isn't so easy to come by.

postoak, you might check out Cruiser Safaris. When i hunted with them in 2008, they had several properties over 15,000 acres.


Mad Dog

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Originally posted by postoak:
I didn't know that about ranch vs farm. For something around 15,000 acres, I would want high fenced.

And I'm talking about a situation where you enter that one property and never exit it until the end of your hunt.

ya not sure of this unique description either, must be a Zambian thing

not sure of the Limpopo but can do just this in the EC,17 000HA (40 800 acres) Big 5 area, you wont see the boundary, you will see Elephant, Rhino , Buff , giraffe etc. We can even charter a plane in if you like.

Look at the Bubye Valley Conservancy in Zim. 800,000 plus acres under one fence. You can hunt 4 of the 5. They have black rhino that you will encounter while you are hunting. Once you are in, you probably will not see the fence. About as close to the garden of Eden that there is now

Check out Duke Safaris. www.dukesafaris.com If I remember correctly the property was 60,000 acres.

Try Amanita Safaris. their main ranch is either 14,000 acres of 14,000 hectares, I forget which.

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Originally posted by fairgame:
Game ranches are unfenced and game farms are fenced so you would be looking at fenced?

15,000 acres is not large by any means.

Andrew, where did you get this info from?

This is not true. A game ranch and a game farm is one in the same thing, with different names. They are both fenced.

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Originally posted by infinito:

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Originally posted by fairgame: Game ranches are unfenced and game farms are fenced so you would be looking at fenced? 15,000 acres is not large by any means.

Andrew, where did you get this info from? This is not true. A game ranch and a game farm is one in the same thing, with different names. They are both fenced.

While it's true that the two terms are often used interchangeably, I think it's important to distinguish between them, especially as the ranch-hunting industry gains more acceptance in the global arena and organizations like WRSA begin to set standards for accreditation.

That's one of the reasons why I (and others) prefer to use the term game-ranch to refer to a hunting ranch and the term game-farm to refer to a breeding facility.

try Thaba Moyo Safaris in Waterport
big ranches

I have probably been on a couple of dozen places in Limpopo and all have been larger than 15,000 acres.

The use of the term "ranch" has traditionally been limited mostly to Americans who think of it as an agricultural unit of unplowed, uncultivated rangeland. Americans tend to think of "farm" as cultivated crops. Most of the English-speaking world uses the term "farm" to denote any agricultural land unit, whether it be a 5-acre vegetable operation or 50,000 hectares of animal grazing. Whether the term "ranch" will eventually creep into African usage in the way that Americans use it is a question only time (and linguists) can ultimately answer. Until then, the two terms will cause confusion when English-users from around the world communicate on forums like this one. (By the way, most Africans think of a "safari" as what a tourist with a camera does. A "hunt", on the other hand, is, not surprisingly, a hunt.)

Postoak: Nothing at all against the wonderful country of South Africa, but if you want to hunt large "ranches" (farms), I'd suggest going instead to Namibia. There are many more very large farms there. The farm I hunted in the mid-southern part of the country had over 100,000 acres under (low) fence and we never left its perimeter to take 27 magnificent head of free-ranging plains game -- except to make a one-hour trip to the owner's relative's 10,000 acre parcel in the mountains where we took four native Hartmann zebra.