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After waiting a full year for two trophies, bushbuck and a waterbuck, they arrived in NY with a high price tag. Total costs to ship both trophies amounted to $1746. That was for the horns and capes only. I think that's outrageously high. My nine fully mounted trophies in 2000 only was $1500.
 
Posts: 251 | Location: pa | Registered: 11 February 2005Reply With Quote
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That may not be too far out of line. I shipped a Cape buffalo cape, skull & horns, and back skin in December and air freight alone was $1,027.65. Dip and pack costs I can't find. Brokerage charges in NYC were $667.00. So, my total is close to yours at $1,695. I can't find a charge or dip and pack and don't remember if it was paid at shipment or on departure from camp.

So, if costs are paid on weight your cost may be a little high since I suspect a buff skull is heavy. It costs are based on crate volume, it would be about the same.


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Posts: 1313 | Location: The People's Republic of Maryland, USA | Registered: 05 August 2006Reply With Quote
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Welcome to the "Get Screwed" Freight Program of Zimbabwe. Since they have to send freight to another country to ship ocean, there seem to be a dozen of so groups that will touch the crate for a mere hundred dollars USD. Or, keep it from moving until they get that C-note. In order to not be perceived as discriminating, they make air freight take the same route and stops, before they let it on a plane. Usually an extra two-grand or so for the same time frame on delivery to the US.
That said, my Cape Buffalo skull and two hide halves only took eight months and two-grand to get here to Idaho via ocean freight.


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Zim; you get what you pay for.

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When you come right down to what is your alternative?? You want the trophies and you have to pay, sure its more than you wanted or hoped to pay, but would you not pay and let them rot. sometimes we just have to suck it up. Over time it will all come out and if you go to the poorhouse because of a few extra hundred maybe you should not have had them shipped or maybe not gone at all.
 
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When you come right down to what is your alternative??

that hits the nail on the head. interestingly enough i found shipping stuff from zambia was a hellovalot less than from zim
 
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$4200 and 20 months for my stuff to come out of Zim and the same for my hunting partner. Instead of shipping everything in one crate we had two crates for double the price. Skulls, capes, and backskins was all there was.If I ever make another trip there will be no more trophys coming home. between the taxidermy work and the freight on two trips I could have paid for an elephant hunt.


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after 10 trips the worst screwing I got on Shipping was from Nambia. I hope you enjoyed it Pam, you won't get me again.

I have said it before and I will say it again.
Its your shipment. get the size and weight and shop it around. You will save money.
It not really about a $100 buck or so, its the fact they are screwing you and they know it and you know it.


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Posts: 1366 | Location: SPARTANBURG SOUTH CAROLINA | Registered: 02 July 2008Reply With Quote
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Air freight in general is a mine field. Hunting trophies are a nightmare, not least because they are deemed "non urgent" cargo , but also because they attract the highest Volumetric charges there are in the freight Industry.
Shipping from Zim is frustrating for 2 reasons. The first is that the trophies have to receive clearance after a Reserve Bank process and the second is that they have to be shipped into SA , then onward. That means that every single person along the way is making his little cut and pushing the price higher and higher!!
I can tell you however that there are some new possibilities being worked on which will cut down the time factors and costs significantly , allowing Zim clients to ship into the USA and Europe directly. Will keep ya all posted
 
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after 10 trips the worst screwing I got on Shipping was from Nambia. I hope you enjoyed it Pam, you won't get me again.



I left trophies in Namibia in 08. Just got tired of getting screwed
 
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Funny enough, I faired good with Namibia and So. Africa connections of my plains game trophies. It was WESCO Shipping Co. right here in New York who decided on gouging me $2,000 just to clear customs! I told them to stick it up their...no future trophies or taxidermy for me. Yet I didn't pick them. Someone else did. Both the outfitter and the SA shipping company went silent when I asked for an explanation. But I got the last laugh when I told WESCO they could dump my stuff in the East River for all I cared.

Of course, if I had deep pockets and the title DOCTOR in front of my name it wouldn't have been a problem at all.
 
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It was WESCO Shipping Co. right here in New York who decided on gouging me $2,000

had the same problem with them
 
Posts: 13466 | Location: faribault mn | Registered: 16 November 2004Reply With Quote
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After being screwed on a shipment from RSA in 2005 (approx. $1,000 for three skulls and horns) I decided it's pictures only for me. Every trip since then I've just brought home the photos and saved the extra $$ for my next trip. To hell with the greedy bastards.


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Posts: 2351 | Location: Pennsylvania | Registered: 07 January 2005Reply With Quote
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Had one buffalo cape and horns in Zim in 2008. took a year to get them shipped to the tune of 2300.00. The charges were ridiculous, there was the FAP fee and the SRY fee and the POS fee, none of which the shipping agent could explain. I told them to boil the horns for soup and eat the cape and walked away from the trophies.If enough people stop paying these trophy extortion fees, mabey the shippers will make some changes.We've to hurt them in the pocket.


 
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Yep, if I make it back ever again, it'll only be pictures and video for me tu2

I'm just too low in the tax bracket wave
 
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rslus, like so many others I waited a year and a half for the Zim trophies. Had to pay for two leopard import permits due to the delay. Yes, shipping is high enough that people are simply going to stay home or take a camera. All the middle men want a piece of the action, so everything gets tacked on as it goes. Even pre-paid will still arrive with U.S. charges for inspections and storage.


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Posts: 161 | Location: Arkansas | Registered: 16 May 2006Reply With Quote
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Not to be critical or sarcastic ...

PART 1)

I keep hearing that Zim's is the most cost effective of the main Southern Africa countries to hunt in ...

I believe the true hunt price should be totalled up on the cost of the hunt PLUS the trophy shipment, that is the actual NET COST to the client.

Is Zim's still the most cost effective country to hunt based upon the scenario above !!

PART 2)

Having said all the above we now need to try and see what options hunters might have for the future ...

Has anyone tried this company OR if not maybe some kind guest from the USA might contact them and ask what they can offer the USA Hunters in particualar

Intfreight Services

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Having just gotten word that my seven animals and backskins from Zim a year ago arrived at tannery stateside and with a total cost of approximately $3800.00 to get them there, all inclusive cost of hunting Zim (for me) was certainly not the "best deal" in Africa. Total experience EXCLUDING upcoming taxidermy bill has already hit north of $40M, which did INCLUDE vidographer at least.

Yes, it could have been done cheaper but not substantially less. Heavens I could have made at least two trips to Limpopo and had to build a new house so perhaps Zim may have been cheap in the long run!! Smiler
 
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My Moz shipment from last Sept. is in the final stages of getting shipped to the States (I think?) The costs are not all that bad, but this will most likely be the last of shipping trophies back after Safari. This shipment contains a Sable and Leopard and some Hippo teeth, that I really want. I will now have parts and pieces of everything that really are a "must have" for me. Ele tusks would be an exception, but I will most likely never hunt ele, so no problem.

The hassels, problems and of course costs just make this part of Safari something I won't deal with in the future. It will be pics, videos and I'll leave the horns, skulls and such for the PH to decorate his camps.

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Posts: 3460 | Location: Jemez Mountains, New Mexico | Registered: 09 February 2006Reply With Quote
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Just picked up my buf skull and skins this last Monday. 10 months after the hunt. Total was less than $1300.00, but that was just to get it here and cleared through F&W and US Customs. I think this may be the last trophy I bring home. Pictures and video are what to bring back ,IMO. The shipping companies are sticking it to us. I look at the shipping charges for my trips, plus the taxidermy bill. I could easily pay for a very nice hunt, maybe even a lion hunt. WTF.


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I too would be very interested to know if anybody has dealt with Intfreight Services.

I called them this morning and requested informaation. They are based out of Seattle, which is very convenient for me, and charge about $300.00 for their services.

From what I was told they have contacts in Zimbabwe who get in touch with the company taking care of the dip and pack.

From that point they handle your freight all the way to their warehouse in Seattle. However, they only offer transfer by air, not sea. According to the person I spoke to the difference between air and sea should be in the hundreds, not thousands, of dollars.

Balla, you're in Zimbabwe. I can find out the name of the company in Zimbawe representing Intfreight. Maybe you could ask around.
 
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What I don't understand is why it's so mucher cheaper for shipments from Zambia, all the trophies we get from Zambia and Moz are 30% less than shipments from Zim.


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Jerry,

The Zambian trophies do not have to go through RSA which could provide some savings. Why Mozambique would be cheaper I don't understand as those trophies or at least the shipments I know about do go through RSA.

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Posts: 13165 | Location: LAS VEGAS, NV USA | Registered: 04 August 2002Reply With Quote
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I hear you all and agree 100%.

I always thought it would cost too much to have someone videograph the safari. But, if you eliminate the return trophies, one could have a videographer film the safari. I think that's what I'll be doing next time.

Thanks for all the good responses.

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I too would be very interested to know if anybody has dealt with Intfreight Services.

I called them this morning and requested informaation. They are based out of Seattle, which is very convenient for me, and charge about $300.00 for their services.

From what I was told they have contacts in Zimbabwe who get in touch with the company taking care of the dip and pack.

From that point they handle your freight all the way to their warehouse in Seattle. However, they only offer transfer by air, not sea. According to the person I spoke to the difference between air and sea should be in the hundreds, not thousands, of dollars.

Balla, you're in Zimbabwe. I can find out the name of the company in Zimbawe representing Intfreight. Maybe you could ask around.


I am actually now living in New Zealand, have been here since 1976 ...

I left Zimbabwe in 1971 (thank my lucky stars) and whenever I visit my brother Alan based at his ranch in SA we only travel by road though Zimbabwe to Zambia where has a couple of private ranches as well.

Ganyana might be able to help you out or some other kind person living in Zim's whom frequents this forum !!

Cheers, Peeter
 
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Hi All.
I live in Zim and have been looking at Trophies for quite some time now. I do feel that our local shippers etc get a raw deal as they simply cant access freight space and reasonable costs in Zim.

As I said in my previous post, there is light at the end of the tunnel and hopefully some recent events and new inroductions will make a difference and certainly allow local shippers to pass on major cost savings to the clients. certainly the current situation is not acceptable.

Austringer, could you let me know the name of the Intfreight agency here and I will certainly make enquiries and let everyone know
 
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ZimFrosty, the company they work with in Zimbabwe is World Wide Logistics.
 
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