Gentlemen, Ladies and others,

How many times have you personally been under 'attack' just "because you are a hunter"? Such attacks can take many forms: But they seem to have one thing in common: A "holier than thou" attitude by the attacker. How do you react when attacked for being a hunter like this?

I want to share a story told by a Scottish Deerstalker about his last line of defense - a counter-attack!

I adapt this story as told by Peter Robinson, formerly Deerstalker at Blaircreich near Balqhidder, about how he handles these attacks, which often come from his wife's [a beautician] clients: Start defending and arguing as a gentleman. If this fails - as it often does - skip all next steps and ask the following question: "Do you know what I like most about killing a stag or deer on a crisp cold morning?" Now, arguing like a gentleman had already proved ineffective for the particular holier than thou individual, so what chance do you have of getting a meaningful reply to such a question? But Peter knows that and pre-empts with the reply: "While gutting the animal, sticking my cold hands and half-frozen fingers into the lovely warm and sometimes still moving intestines!"
Not intended for lady’s or other sensitive soul’s company, but a sure argument stopper! And anyone who has ever hunted with success in the freezing cold of an early morning knows the feeling that Pete describes so well!

In good hunting.

Andrew McLaren

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How do you kill an anti-hunting attack?

With a big bore.

Just kidding, have to try to remain calm which will a tough since the anti will ranting. And basically the benefits that hunters have provided to the community, for example meat for the hungry. I also try to explain that hunting is in our genetics from the stone ages, it is just natural.

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Originally posted by David Culpepper:

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How do you kill an anti-hunting attack?

With a big bore.

Just kidding, have to try to remain calm which will a tough since the anti will ranting. And basically the benefits that hunters have provided to the community, for example meat for the hungry. I also try to explain that hunting is in our genetics from the stone ages, it is just natural.

I don't think Andrew is looking for the serious answer here

But read my footer........

Fortunately, have seldom been there but I'm smart enough not to advertise my hunting too much - and when I do people have usually already found out that although I'm smart it sure does not mean I'm sane; so they usually then let the hunting bit pass.

However, if in such a situation someone ALWAYS asks: "Why do you have to shoot the animals?" My patent answer is: "They don't die otherwise."
This is always followed by [awkward] silence.

And if the discussion comes to "fairness", i.e. it's not "fair" that I shoot a defensless animal with a high-power rifle, I ask: "What should I do then - throw rocks at them?"

Well i usually get the rhetorical question:
"how do you do it?"

Answer;

"Its easy, see one waits till the animal is standing still, when he lifts his leg to wipe the tears out of his eyes, and waves goodbye to the rest of the herd.... its then that I shoot him...."

the responce usually shuts the people up with minimal protest and the topic changes rapidly..... lol

I love this question when at a dinner of some type. My answer is, "If you don't kill them, how do you plan to have them for dinner?"
Of course the next line from them is, "I don't kill them, I go to the market." My reply is then, "You are so unethical you require others to do your killing?" Never had a reply after that.

My wife was riding in a horse show the other day, and happened to know the judge. I should mention that I've also known the judge for 25 years, and know she's on the board of the local humane society.

My wife mentioned that we're leaving for Namibia next week, and that I'll be hunting. The judge was quite aghast and says "And you're OK with that??????"

My wife's response was "As long as I'm still eating beef, I guess I have no reason not to be OK with it!"

Heres what i get in the post ewery week from around the world !! seems there are many idiots out there !!!!!!


-----Opprinnelig melding-----
Fra: peter windhoevel [mailto:fotasmagori@gmx.net]
Sendt: 29. juli 2008 23:49
Til: john@raumainfo.no
Emne: Spam: Stop your Huntingtours to South Africa

Hi,
it is a shame that in these days, when wild animals have to be protected, you still offer hunting tours to South Africa! Your actions should be prosecuted!
you still offer huntings in SA! I have your folder and will inform all Natural Reserves there!
All creatures have to be saved and not hunted as you offer!!!

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/160781929

Hope you will think about.
(Even in Sweden and Norway is only a small number of animals left!! It seems to be easier for you to get your clients to SA!?) Reg. P-W.

Dear Mr. McLaren:

Having attended two institutions of higher education, one a bit liberal when I was an undergraduate and the other, a very liberal law school in the heart of San Francisco, I have come up with a simple, yet effective answer when chided about my hunting:

"So, when can we go out, and kill me something?"

Prior to law school, I worked in the fur/garment industry for a year, and that answer works on the PETA crowd, too.

I got a real laugh, while using that line on an apoplectic young lady in Union Square in San Francisco. Her fellow PETA compatriot started to laugh, but caught himself. He appeared to be (hunting?) after something else that afternoon that had nothing to do with the PETA protest. His taste was not my taste, but every man for himself, so he cut his laugh short.

Funny, the killing means nothing to me, but the hunting really does.

Sincerely,


Chris Bemis

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Originally posted by David Culpepper:

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How do you kill an anti-hunting attack?

With a big bore.

Dang, David, you beat me to it! I was going to say the same thing!

I don't worry about that because the people who hit you with that are the ones always looking to hit you with something.

I used to try to be polite, use logic, and convert the antis. I don't any longer. When I'm asked "why do you hunt...blah...blah...blah?" I typically respond with "I don't ask you why you're A) fat, B) ugly, C) a slut, or D) impotent...so why are you bothering me?"

I had a similar experience last weekend at LL Beans five stand range.

This girl that I had just met, was shooting in our party and we were on a break. She was perusing the new Beans hunting catalog and was bitching about the dead nyala photo in the catalog. I reminded her that it was a hunting catalog and she said she thought it was in bad taste.

"What if kids see this?" was what she said. She told me she was a school teacher and that kids didn't appreciate it.

I told her that kids were pretty much pro hunting if they didn't spend their whole lives brain washed by Disney and liberal teachers.

I asked her if she ate meat, and she said she did, and then I asked her if she wore leather shoes and used a leather purse, and she told me she did.

I asked her if those cows wanted to die, and if the chicken she ate had sent her a suicide note.


Then I asked her if she wore makeup, and if she knew that makeup was made out of cowfat.

I really hate stupid people, so then I asked her if she knew who paid for 90% of conservation. She said she didn't, and I told her that sportsmens dollars through the Pittman Robertson act paid for it, and through the sale of hunting liscenses, donations, and the NRA funds.

She told me that she thought that hunters didn't do anything for anything that wasn't a hunted species.

I said wow your dumb, do you know how many non game species live on land sponsored and conserved by Pittman Robertson money? And she said not many, and I said have you ever been to a National Wildlife Refuge, a big expanse of forest service property, or a state park? She said that she had, and I asked her what animals other than deer she had seen there. She said everything, woodpeckers, owls, hawks, and so on.

She got it, but it was pretty rough.

"Why do you enjoy KILLING THINGS!? (said in a hissy hysterical voice)

"Because I enjoy the sound they make when they fall over."

(substitute - the crash the elephant makes when it falls over, the plonk or thud the duck makes when falling out of the sky - etc)

You killed a what?

Yep I killed it. I took it's horns and it's hide and whenever possible I ate it's flesh!

Followed by. . .
I choose to be a predator not just a vulcher feeding on flesh killed by others.

That usually stops things right there

Thanks for a lot of one-liners for future references!

Getting sidetracked, but another question I usually get is about my rather meat based diet where greenery is strongly unpresent on my plate. To the wondering people I answer: "I didn't fight my way all the way to the top of the foodchain to eat greenery."

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I got a real laugh, while using that line on an apoplectic young lady in Union Square in San Francisco. Her fellow PETA compatriot started to laugh, but caught himself. He appeared to be (hunting?) after something else that afternoon that had nothing to do with the PETA protest. His taste was not my taste, but every man for himself, so he cut his laugh short.

You mean he was fur-trapping so to speak?

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Originally posted by Schauckis:

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I got a real laugh, while using that line on an apoplectic young lady in Union Square in San Francisco. Her fellow PETA compatriot started to laugh, but caught himself. He appeared to be (hunting?) after something else that afternoon that had nothing to do with the PETA protest. His taste was not my taste, but every man for himself, so he cut his laugh short.

You mean he was fur-trapping so to speak?

nope, he was fishing for pink snapper.

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Originally posted by Rusty:
You killed a what?

Yep I killed it. I took it's horns and it's hide and whenever possible I ate it's flesh!

Followed by. . .
I choose to be a predator not just a vulcher feeding on flesh killed by others.

That usually stops things right there

That's a good one, Rusty!

For those chasing game in vehicles, airplanes, boats, ATV's, etc. and simply overwhelming the game due to the convenience there is no room for debate that such activity is unethical and not to be condoned. Sure there are situations which lend themselves to such action, but those should be few and far between.
As for the anti hunters and their radical views, one might consider paraphrasing one of the most popular books ever printed and stating that it says "man shall have dominion over the animals..." Probably don't have a clue to what book you are referring to, but take such an opportunity to educate them a bit.

I sometimes use the old saying, "If I have to explain, you probably won't understand".