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Big 4 in 3 Days!
10 December 2008, 01:46
Adam ClementsBig 4 in 3 Days!
Thought that this post was special enough to share as it is not very common for a hunter to take the Big 4 in just 3 days. Hunting is hunting and everyone knows that success does not always go as we want, but then sometimes everything comes together and you may have incredible success. Such is the case with one of our clients (Dr. John Waldrop) who just returned from Tanzania. I will post the pictures below as they were taken in the first 3 days. Brian van Blerk was the PH for this safari, and as usual performed his great abilities.
First morning Buffalo 44"
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First afternoon Buffalo 45"
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Second day in the morning
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Third Day in the morning (don't know exact weight yet, but will be 60+ pounds)
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Dr. Waldrop went on to hunt and take another Buffalo that went 44" and some of the Plains Game and left on day 10. He is booking again to take his son and we look forward to having him again.
Merry Christmas to you all and look forward to seeing some of you at the shows. I do not check AR on a regular basis, but can be reached by e-mail.
10 December 2008, 02:05
Will3 days and a hundred thousand dollars later....
Some nice critters.
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10 December 2008, 02:26
Use Enough GunI don't know how he'll ever top that. He ought to just out and out quit.

I hope that he isn't disappointed on the second trip, if things don't turn out as spectacular.
10 December 2008, 02:55
PalmerI would have thought that near impossible. Congratluations to all.
Was the lion and leopard pre-baited?
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10 December 2008, 02:59
GarByIn all honesty, everyone is to be congratulated on some very fine animals....and they truly are....but.....I like spending time in the bush pursuing them, so taking them all that quick would probably be a bit of a let down for me.
I don't know if that makes sense to anyone...but it does to me.
But, like I said....those are some excellent trophies and the PH and hunter are to be given congrats on an outstanding effort.
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10 December 2008, 03:08
pichon1THAT'S A MAN IN A HURRY.

10 December 2008, 03:22
PSmithWow, that's an accomplishment. The buffalo are absolutely awesome, and the elephant and leopard look very nice. I guess if it were me and I had 14 or 21 days on that safari, I would have passed on that lion on day two. That being said, congratualtions on a very successful hunt.
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10 December 2008, 03:28
Michael RobinsonNot three days. No way.
There had to be a great deal of pre-hunt work involved in this effort, including the pre-hunt shooting, hanging and checking of cat baits and pre-hunt scouting for buffalo and elephant as well.
Still, this kind of success is extraordinary - and I congratulate the hunting team and the hunter on taking some terrific specimens.
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10 December 2008, 03:32
Adam ClementsUEG, Thats why it is called hunting and every safari is different with a different experience. Are you ready for Mexico
Gary, I am 100% with you about enjoying the bush and that is what a safari is all about.
This post was simply just to show the other extreme of hunting and how successful some hunters can be at times. It also shows that when you do choose to hunt in a good area with a great PH and outfit what can happen. This same client has been on many other hunts with a lot less success, so he understands what hunting is all about and it really comes down to the adventure and the experience of each and every safari.
mrlexma, Leopard was already on bait from previous client, Lion hit the bait first night and they heard the Lions roaring in the direction of the bait as it was not far from camp and when they walked into bait he was there. Elephant and Buffalo just normal hunting and encounter. For sure this is rare and why I posted it. The best I have done in my career is the Big 4 in 6 days.
10 December 2008, 03:47
Use Enough GunAdam: Actually my very first Safari to Africa was like that. Now, I'm expecting that same success with my upcoming Sonora, Mexico desert mule deer hunt booked through you and Mark Young for next month.

Just don't shoot all the big ones while you're there this month.

10 December 2008, 03:58
Adam ClementsWe will try to leave you something very big for your hunt for sure.

Just checked down there and they are seeing some great Mule Deer, but you will be there when the rut is stronger, so you should do very well. I am going with Josh Beckett (Red Sox Pitcher)and he wants one of the 30" Deer, so we shall see how lady luck falls. Will let you know when I get back.
10 December 2008, 04:06
adrookquote:
In all honesty, everyone is to be congratulated on some very fine animals....and they truly are....but.....I like spending time in the bush pursuing them, so taking them all that quick would probably be a bit of a let down for me.
I don't know if that makes sense to anyone...but it does to me.
Makes perfect sense to me, Gary.
10 December 2008, 04:16
LionHunterIt took me from 1998-Elephant, until 2004-Lion to complete my Big 5. During that period I took safari at least once per year and mostly x2, except for 2002 when my daughter got married in Maui. I wasn't hunting Big 5 each of those safaris, but Leopard took more than one and so did Lion. The Lion was taken on the 32 day of dedicated Lion hunting - 21 in the Selous and finally got him on day 11 in the Luangwa Valley of Zambia. And yeah, I was starting to get worried, as we were due to fly out to the Bangweulu Swamp on day 14.
As to the good Doctors trophies, nobody passes on Buff or Ele in those sizes and, given my own experience with the cats, I wouldn't have passed on either of them. So congratulations to the Doc, his PH and trackers and Adam, well done.
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10 December 2008, 05:31
retreevercongrats Doc... the red Gods shined on you and all the planets must have been in line...

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10 December 2008, 05:34
rjrtaxidermyMan, those buffalo are awesome! That first one is my favorit! Exactly what I would love to chase some day. Congrats to that lucky SOB. If it were my safari, i wouldn't have passed on any of them.
10 December 2008, 05:42
SpringWhere in Tanzania was he hunting?
10 December 2008, 07:23
MHC_TXAdam,
I heard about the lion and the leopard on the same day, but wow - what a hunt!
Congratulation's to all!
Looks like Brian still has the "mojo" working.
Really like those buffalo.
Mike
10 December 2008, 08:05
JPKIts just great when everything comes together. Not luck involved ussually, either, just the same old "preperation meets opportunity = success" but some will always call it luck.
Here, congrats to the preperation of the PH and the client and their success in capitalizing on their opportunities!
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10 December 2008, 09:17
375 fanaticI smell CANNED hunting

so it is possible.
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10 December 2008, 10:47
shakariquote:
Originally posted by 375 fanatic:
I smell CANNED hunting

so it is possible.
Not in Tanzania mate.

That hunter must have the luck of the devil, but you can bet your life it was a fair chase hunt.

10 December 2008, 13:12
375 fanaticquote:
Originally posted by shakari:
quote:
Originally posted by 375 fanatic:
I smell CANNED hunting

so it is possible.
Not in Tanzania mate.

That hunter must have the luck of the devil, but you can bet your life it was a fair chase hunt.
That is normally the reply when some one does it so quick LOL just chirping
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10 December 2008, 14:13
Scott450Dr Waldrop has hunted with a good friend of mine on numerous occasions; he is a veteran of many, many african safaris and from what i know he is the type of hunter that deserves every bit of success that he enjoyed on this hunt. In modern day Africa you cannot get much better than that. Well done
10 December 2008, 15:10
ivan carterits not every safari that goes like that , but when they do , grab it with both hands ...excellent trophies , excellent areas and excellent PHing ...thats no mistake , its astute area choice, managementn and management from safari trackers ...well done to all
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10 December 2008, 15:30
bwanamrmSometimes the red gods smile... great trophies. A brace of buff in the mid-40's, a brace of big cats the next day and an ellie as the cherry on top. In a dozen trips to Africa over the last fourteen years, I still haven't taken a buff as large as the good Doctor's small one. My leopard came on day six and my elephant bull on the last day of a ten day hunt after 120 kilometers of tracking... I bet the Doc was smiling all the way home on the plane! And I would have shot everyone of them as I came across 'em. You can't put good trophies like that in your hip pocket and save them for later!
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11 December 2008, 05:28
MARK H. YOUNGGuys,
Anyone who has anything to say negative about Dr. Waldrops safari seriously needs to look at their motivation for those comments. Implying that cost somehow makes this safari less impressive or that this safari was somehow a set up just sounds like sour grapes to me.
I shot a very big sable and a huge Livingstone's eland in 2 days last year. I did the research and had some excellent luck. Would my expereince have been more worthy of praise if I had shot these animals on the last day of safari?
I agree that I too would have stayed for the full duration of the safari but I have not done 15 full bag safaris either as the Dr. has. He had the full experience he paid for and went home very satisfied. His choice.
Finally saying you might not have shot that lion if you had lots of time is complete lunacy as fully mature and full maned lions are not common and not shooting this one would have been just plain stupid.
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Bill Cquote:
I shot a very big sable and a huge Livingstone's eland in 2 days last year. I did the research and had some excellent luck. Would my expereince have been more worthy of praise if I had shot these animals on the last day of safari?
ABSOLUTELY!!! You should have told them to wait at least a week before releasing them!

Seriously Mark, I didn't interpret anything posted above to constitute "sour grapes". All very supportive, with a few mentions of personal preferences. Some like running water, some don't. Chill, it's Christmas!

Congrat's to the good Doctor and Brian! Thanks for posting Adam, and I hope you and your beautiful wife have a great holiday season! Bill
11 December 2008, 12:02
zhabaWOW

Never mind that he managed to shoot such fantastic trophies in a few days! I just wish my bank account was as good as that or my bank manager that willing so i could try and do the same

Guess i will have to keep dreaming.well done on such beautiful trophies

11 December 2008, 22:39
BrettAKSCIWOW!!! Congrads to all. My mouth is watering. That's a dream safari for sure. Life would be kind of anti-climactic after that. I'm assuming this was in Lobo or Lolkisale?
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13 December 2008, 12:39
Bwanamichquote:
Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
Finally saying you might not have shot that lion if you had lots of time is complete lunacy as fully mature and full maned lions are not common and not shooting this one would have been just plain stupid.
Mark,
I beg to "politely" disagree with your above statement. In this day and age, probably more than ever, being sure to take the "right" lion is even more important to the future of lion hunting. The definition of "right" should always include "aged" (i.e. past mature or 6 yrs old or more). This is not my opinion but that of scientists and researchers the continent over.

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13 December 2008, 13:05
shakariI'll second BwanaMich's comment and also add that as well as age being a factor, another should be whether the cat is holding a pride or not and if so, whether they have dependent young in that pride.
Shooting the wrong Lion, is like dropping a stone into a pool of water and the ripples can go a looooong way.
I'll also say that BwanaMich probably knows more about Lions and has access to more information about the species than anyone else on this site.

13 December 2008, 20:08
matt uAdam,
the Doc got some wonderfill trophies,thanks for posting the pictures.
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13 December 2008, 21:18
Jeff Wemmerquote:
That hunter must have the luck of the devil, but you can bet your life it was a fair chase hunt.
Amen Steve!
I'm impressed!
Great Job Doc, et al!

13 December 2008, 22:25
Gayne C. YoungWhat a fantastic trip! Congrats!
13 December 2008, 23:40
DB BillI hunted with Brian some time ago in Zim and he isn't one to hang around camp and waste time.
We'd come back to camp for lunch and while I was relaxing and watching the crocs in the Zambezi he was punching a heavy bag he had hanging outside his tent --- of course it could also have been related to the fact that he was just recently married at the time and he needed an outlet for his excess energy.
Super PH --- t's nice when the good guys continue to prosper.
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14 December 2008, 08:22
mbogobutchJust returned 30 days ago,hunted with Brian...first class,great PH..trust me the Lion was not with a pride,and he is awesome!!!What a great hunt and what a great Safari Co.Thanks for the great trip my wife and I had, looking forward to seeing you in Dallas......Butch
14 December 2008, 09:29
ozhunterquote:
Originally posted by mbogobutch:
Just returned 30 days ago,hunted with Brian...first class,great PH..trust me the Lion was not with a pride,and he is awesome!!!What a great hunt and what a great Safari Co.Thanks for the great trip my wife and I had, looking forward to seeing you in Dallas......Butch
Any more photos for us???
14 December 2008, 20:42
mbogobutchOZ will try to get some pics posted,never done it before,thanks Butch
15 December 2008, 02:20
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Check out the hunting report fourm. Just figured out how to post pics.
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Originally posted by ozhunter:
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Originally posted by mbogobutch:
Just returned 30 days ago,hunted with Brian...first class,great PH..trust me the Lion was not with a pride,and he is awesome!!!What a great hunt and what a great Safari Co.Thanks for the great trip my wife and I had, looking forward to seeing you in Dallas......Butch
Any more photos for us???