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Any thoughts or experience on the swarovski av 1" american versus the zeiss conquest? Thanks ....wapiti7
 
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No contest -- Definitely the Swarovski A series. A few years ago Zeiss abandoned the Diavari Series which was a great line of scopes and built the new Conquest line to make a cheaper scope to directly price compete with Leupold and others in the American market. However, they don't use the kind of quality lenses and prisms that they used to use in the Diavari -- remember the first time that I looked through a Conquest, and being a Zeiss fan I was very disappointed at the lack of flatness of field, traditional Zeiss brightness, and the amount of abberation in the view. Certainly not the type of product that Zeiss built their former reputation on.

I have a few of the old Diavaris and a Zeiss Classic Bino, they are fantastic and completely blow away the new Conquest series. Also, have several Swarovskis, including both the PH and A series scopes. They are all made in Austria, and are clear, crisp, bright, and very rugged. Certainly a better choice than the Conquest.
 
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No contest -- Definitely the Swarovski A series. A few years ago Zeiss abandoned the Diavari Series which was a great line of scopes and built the new Conquest line to make a cheaper scope to directly price compete with Leupold and others in the American market. However, they don't use the kind of quality lenses and prisms that they used to use in the Diavari -- remember the first time that I looked through a Conquest, and being a Zeiss fan I was very disappointed at the lack of flatness of field, traditional Zeiss brightness, and the amount of abberation in the view. Certainly not the type of product that Zeiss built their former reputation on.

I have a few of the old Diavaris and a Zeiss Classic Bino, they are fantastic and completely blow away the new Conquest series. Also, have several Swarovskis, including both the PH and A series scopes. They are all made in Austria, and are clear, crisp, bright, and very rugged. Certainly a better choice than the Conquest.


Zeiss still building the Diavari series I just got 3 new ones they actually all new models I got 3 older ones (50years old) when they were still labelled “HENSOLT†and 2 newer once about 25 years old and never had any problems with any of them.
Excellent scopes just a tiny little bit expenses. Wink Don’t know about the conquest scope had some conquest 12x Bino’s but using the classic and victory series mainly.

Check on their website you can download the full catalogue.

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I have experience with both. Swarovski A line over Zeiss Conquest in almost all aspects except eye relief (Conquest 3-9 only, however). On the other hand, the Zeiss Diavari trumps the Swaro series. In my opinion (which is worth what is costs you!), the Zeiss Diavari was the finest scope out there with a 1" tube. They have recently been discontinued, but are still available at some stores, ebay, etc.
 
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I have experience with both. Swarovski A line over Zeiss Conquest in almost all aspects except eye relief (Conquest 3-9 only, however). On the other hand, the Zeiss Diavari trumps the Swaro series. In my opinion (which is worth what is costs you!), the Zeiss Diavari was the finest scope out there with a 1" tube. They have recently been discontinued, but are still available at some stores, ebay, etc.


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you right no 1" but plenty of 30mm in current program checkhttp://www.hensoldt-zeissgruppe.de/C12567A80033F8E4/Contents-Frame/0D01F620E30FCCD2C1256FB8002DAC68


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I do not have experience with a Swaro scope, I have 3 sets of Swaro binos. I have one Zeiss Conquest scope and would not use it again versus my Leupolds. My eyes do not see well out of the Zeiss for some reason. The Leupold VX III is right for me.

If the choice is between Swaro and Zeiss, I would select the Swaro.
 
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Between the two suggested, the Swaro's the better option, provided of course you don't mind the significant price difference between the two. The A line's a FINE scope, but, expensive. jorge


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Differences in ones "eye sight" will have a bearing on which scope works best for you..we all see things differently, to some degree.

My understanding is that Swaro "A" line (1") uses the same quality of glass as the PH (30mm) model...the difference between them being tube size and the ability of the PH (30mm) model to handle recoil a bit better..it has a different internal system for handling recoil than the "A" line...

I used Zeiss and Swarovski's top of the line scopes over a number of years and for my eyes the Swarovski work better....The Swaro "A" line is a top notch scope but it does cost a bit more than most other 1" scopes...For my eyes the Swaro "A" is superior to the Conquest...no doubt...
 
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The "A" Line has more eye relief than the "PH" by almost 1/2 inch. I have "upgrade" 4 of my rifles to the "A" line.
 
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I have heard of too many problems with the Conquests to be confident in one.
 
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Thanks for all of the help guys, I just ordered the swarovski av 1" 3-10x42 I'm sure I'll love it!!.......wapiti7
 
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Swarovski, I'm told by my optomitrist, makes their lenses from lead glass crystel. Can someone confirm this.

All I know is that when I look thru their product it is strikingly clear. However beyond my checkbook.

I'm curious if one is buying superior optics, superior mechanical function and reliability or both.


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Vapodog,

I purchased Swarovskis for their clarity and low light capability, in addition I have never had a problem with them...the only complaint I have with the PH model is the eye relief being at bit short, I will not use them on Big Bores...but some do..
 
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I have heard of too many problems with the Conquests to be confident in one.


Can you tell us what you heard?


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