I was wondering if anyboduy had used some of the RWS bullets to hunt africa?

I personatly once shot a warthog very poor in the gods with a .375 Kegelspitze factory load from the PH rifle which I borrowed for the shot. Th second shot missed. Unfortunatly the warthog was never discovered, which learned me not to use a rifle which I haven't been shooting in advance!

The bullet was poor placed indead, but it didn't exspant much either. The blood trail was very weak. So I can't blaim the bullet, but I'm qourios to know if any one has tried them under wiser surcumstances than me?

Regards

Mads

Mads,

I have not used them either, but have heard reports of very poor performance on African animals from PHs I know.

They tend to break up.

I have sectioned some of these bullets, and was not too impressed with their construction, as the jackets are VERY thin.

Personally, I would not use them unless I have absolutely no other choice.

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saeed@ emirates.net.ae

www.accuratereloading.com

I use both RWS Brenneke-TIG and H-Mantel in my 7X65R double rifle, it works pretty well on thick-skinned medium-sized animals such as wild boar and warthog. I prefer the TIG, it penetrates deep and expands slowly whereas the H-Mantel's shrapnel effect wastes a lot of venison. Never used the KS, but it has good reputation by here...

Hi,

since I'm from Germany and RWS is from Germany, too, I've used RWS ammo quite a bit...
Currently I'm still shooting in my 7*64 and in my 7*65R the 10.5g Kegelspitz which I use with good effects on roe deer and wild boar (which are similar to a warthog in terms of size & weight).
The KS (or Kegelspitz) bullet is a quite "soft" bullet constructed for fast expansion and probably not the best bullet for the .375 H&H, but it should be enough for an animal with the size of a warthog.

Nevertheless this is not a general problem of RWS ammo, since for example they have an excellent TUG bullet in .375 H&H which two friends of mine already have used on African game with good success.

Cheers

Erik (:

When you match the bullets to the game the RWS bullets work as well as a any other premium bullet. The high expanding bullets are fine for lighter game. I have never been with a client shooting RWS ammo and lost the animal they were shooting at. It is excellent ammunition and I would not hesitate to reccomend this brand.

I used the Tig or tug ( not sure which but believe it was the tig) at one time and it was a wonderfull bullet in the 9.3x62 on Buffalo, Eland and Kudu and was perfect for Bushpig..It was a very tough bullet and not prone to failure.

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Ray Atkinson

ray@atkinsonhunting.com
atkinsonhunting.com

Ray, it's a TUG, TIG is for smaller ammo. My experience in 7x64, 8x57JRS and 9.3x62 is excellent. However with the .375 I found that the loads were a touch on the hot side, I now only shoot Federal in 300gr Trophy bonded. As a rule of thumb use RWS only for European calibers.

I've used the .375 H&H 300 gr Kegelspitz (Cone Point) and it was extremely accurate and had a superb trajectory.

I would think the cone point is fairly soft.

Has anyone used this sort of bullet on game say up to kudu?

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John
alias Nitro

NitroExpress.com

I have used the H-mantel with very good results in my 9.3x62, it gave very little meat damage, the least I have seen in my 9.3x62. They penetrate very well. I have used the T-mantle on Kudu and Eland and they worked OK, but they do damage a lot of meat, the worst of all the bullets

I have used factory Dynamit Nobel RWS ammunition on a lot of African game. I just answered a previous post on the topic, but after seeing what you guy have said about it, makes me feel like an idiot.
Nonetheless I will stick to my guns.
I have found it to be super accurate and have had perfect performance on almost every shot from .270, .30-06, .375 From lion to kudu, Australian buffalo, wild boar, antilope - everything. It has been flawless. I recall 1 big old boar taking a 300gn .375 slug from a close range that broke up and did not kill him quickly. But I'd it was one of the bullets all you guy were using...Strange but true. I entirly trust and swear by RWS.

Can�t speak about African game, but: the KS is really soft. Fine on smaller animals, though. The follower, the DK bullet has a metal part dividing the bullet to secure a part staying together.

The H Mantel is a two part bullet: front part shatters and does damage, sometimes too much. Back part penetrates. Advantage: its usable for a broad band of game weight. Most of the time it will pnetrate through ( back part, not mushroomed ). Disadvantage: ev. lots of meat damage, and it doesn�t have the "stopping" effect of a Partition, TUG. Hell, its generations older.

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Express - No need to feel stupid

As you have noticed I've posted on the Big game forum aswell, and I'm quit pleased with the Kegelspitze for roe deer in my .300 win - strangely enough, because every one says it's a soft bullet!

If you have great hunting with RWS ammo hell why not use it!
My farther is of for some "old man" relax and shot for meat hunt in Namibia soon. He is bringing his 9,3x 62 with the factory TUG load, and his 7X65R with the factory Kegelspitce load! As my opening post said, my only exsperinece with RWS bullets in Africa, was the borrowed rifle form the PH.

But the PH used this .375 H&H with the Kegelspitze for anything from Red Flanked duiker, through lion to buffalow and Giant Eland. So yes the bullet must be worth something.

Regards

Mads

Does anyone know if it is possible to buy 187 grain H mantel in 8mm for reloading?

I had some factory ammo but it is all gone.

IMO that 187 H mantel would be a good leopard bullet.

I'm a week back from the Central African Republic using RWS 9.3x74R SP's in my light rifle. It worked perfectly on Western Roan and hartebeest -- both were one shot kills at between 80 and 100 yards.

I also took two buffalo, but those were with a .500/.450 NE.

I had some clients last year using RWS ammunitions in 9,3 x 62 calibre. They got warthog, impala, wildebeest and kudu. We did not lost any animal but I still use GS bullets in my rifle.

TIG and TUG are separate: one for calibers to 7 mm, it shall open violently. It has a good rep for European game, up to red stag.

The TUG? is from .30 up, its designed to shed more weight, but give a more streamlined mushroom to aid penetration. Its designed for larger game. In 9.3x64 it seems to be too soft.

I would not use a .30 KS for bigger game, I�ve heard bad reports from South Tyrol for red deer. I don�t know about the .375, but it should be constructed harder.

The H Mantel bullets are available for reloading, but very expensive. Try Frankonia of Germany. Very often S & B RN bullets have a similar shape.

Hermann

With a friend I hunted in Namibia 2000. We used Sauer Alaska rifles in .375 H&H and 300gr. Kegelspitz bullets by RWS.
All in all we took 2 Springbock, 2 Blessbock, 2 Warthog, 1 Hartebeest, 2 Oryx, 1 Jackal.
The bullet performace was very good. Every animal died quick, we had only to look for one warthog about 50 meters in the bush.
One of the Oryx and one blessbock showed no exit wound.
I think there are better bullets for this kind of hunting on the market. Now I would probably take the Nosler partition of Swift A frame but the RWS Kegelspitz is not bad.