Hello Guys,
I saw that Shockey is hunting on Zanzibar and took an Aders' duiker (Cephalophus adersi).
I have never heard of hunting there.

Does anyone have infos?

Regards,

Dennis

Steve Kobrine told me he was doing it. He was going to take Jim.

If you google Steve you should find his website.

Cost only US$ 60000.- A well known Weatherby Award Winner told me.

Thanks for the infos, Matt.

I thought before, that Kobrine is the Outfitter but I couldn't find any info on this.

Anyway, I love to hear about more new countries and opportunities

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Originally posted by mboga biga bwana:
Cost only US$ 60000.- A well known Weatherby Award Winner told me.

Bargain...

Cool opportunity but I'm gonna have to cross that one off the list with that price tag! Must be the elephant shrew that is driving the price so high!

Is Zanzibar a separate country?

Hi Larry, Zanzibar is and isn't a separate country. Tanzania is actually the "United Republic of Tanganyika and Zanzibar" hence the name. We are actually under law one country but there are still strong nationalist tendencies in Zanzibar and as we speak there are possible moves to have a more "federal" type system in a re-vamped constitution, with a separate "tier" of government in Zanzibar. Anyway bloody interesting that someone got to hunt an Ader's there, I for one living not 20nm away heard nothing about it. Good stuff! Cheers JT

Here is the picture Jim Shockey posted on FB.

$60,000? Oh hell no, not me.

$ 60,000! That duiker better be full of gold nuggets. No way.

They should have paid Jim to hunt that horny rabbit thingy

It's good to be Jim.

Reading the comments on his FB page, it is interesting how many antis have an issue with "the lack of meat".

https://www.facebook.com/JimShockeyFanPage

Please tell me you shoot a hell of a lot more than just that for 60 G's?

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Originally posted by larryshores:
$60,000? Oh hell no, not me.

+1, I kept doing the math to convert that to buffalo hunts or tuskless hunts. I guess I will go ahead and scratch the Weatherby Award from my bucket list.

I have to wonder if:

1 the $60k is correct

2 if Jim paid full price

3 If Jim is seeking the Weatherby award

Cool. Hunting and scuba diving on the same day.

Nice place.

Cute little critter.

Will the local villagers, assuming there are any, see any of that money?

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Originally posted by larryshores:
I have to wonder if:

1 the $60k is correct

2 if Jim paid full price

3 If Jim is seeking the Weatherby award

When it comes to number 3 it would not surprise me if he is. I know he has been participating in all the SCI Awards programs……… Pinnacle of Achievement and all that sort of thing. I know Jim has got to be getting close to the killed several of everything category.

60K seems steep for a duiker, even a rare one. I know lots of guys like hunting the little stuff, just never appealed to me. Had a PH shake his head at me a few times on a hunt because I let a monster steenbuck and a couple of good duiker carry on with life.

Oh well, I guess if you can afford to drop that sort of coin on a rare beastie, what the hell. I don't imagine the hunts for Royal antelope are cheap either.

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Originally posted by larryshores:
I have to wonder if:

1 the $60k is correct

2 if Jim paid full price

3 If Jim is seeking the Weatherby award

1. Yes, I understand it is correct for the Ader's duiker hunt. Not sure about the other wee critters there?
2. Not one of us will ever know the exact answer to that; that's Jims business really. Jim pays good money for his hunting.
3. From what I gather from Jim himself; Jim is seeking the most exotic animals in the most exotic places - to make great television. HHe is a hunting and explorer - loves all that stuff. I guess Zanzibar ticked all those boxes for him? As for Weatherby - if you mention it Jim just laughs.

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Originally posted by Skyline:
I don't imagine the hunts for Royal antelope are cheap either.

I did ask Steve a few weeks back and I think he said they were about $18,000 - something like that.

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Originally posted by SteveGl:
Will the local villagers, assuming there are any, see any of that money?

Apparently a big chunk of it is for a specific community project. Not sure what exactly, I was just told a 'facility'.

I think Steve is a member here - maybe he could chime in when he gets time and tell us about his mad adventures??

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Originally posted by larryshores:
Is Zanzibar a separate country?

NO - It is part of Tanzania though semi autonomous; hence the reason behind Tanzania having 2 Vice Presidents, one of which is the President of Zanzibar.

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Originally posted by JTHunt:
I for one living not 20nm away heard nothing about it. Good stuff! Cheers JT

Would that be 20nm from Zanzibar town or Kizimkazi?

Cool looking little duiker!! If Jim is pursuing a Weatherby Award so what? He's obviously a future shoe in if he desires, but as Matt stated, he scoffs at the idea. I like to hunt in odd places for species that aren't on a regular hunters agenda i.e. my first mountain hunt was for Dagestan tur. I quite often find myself researching seldom hunted places and find out Jim is on his way there in the near future. If I had his means I would be gone all the time in far flung places as well. Congrats to Jim and I hope he continues to make great TV for the rest of us to enjoy such places vicariously through him.

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Originally posted by Rockdoc:
Cool. Hunting and scuba diving on the same day.

Nice place.

Cute little critter.

The scuba diving is pretty average and I couldn't imagine hunting there.

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Originally posted by Peter Andersen: If Jim is pursuing a Weatherby Award so what?

The question was out of curiosity, not criticism.

Im sure he gets asked that a LOT Larry!!!

Whatever we think about the price, I give Jim & Steve Kobrine a big

The Ader's duiker is endagered in Zanzibar but now I am sure it will get a lot of protection in the areas that allow hunting! Good for the Ader's Duiker!

Tasty looking little critter but hell of a price per kg !
Wonder if he ate it ?

Apologies Larry. Generally when "famous" hunters are being mentioned and the amounts they are actually paying for hunts as opposed to the advertised price is brought up, it is generally out of criticism.

A lot of credit for opening hunting needs to go to Michel Mantheakis. Zanzibar duiker , Zanzibar suni, adders duiker and one more species that escapes me are now available to us hunters, with the endorsement of the IUCN!

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Originally posted by Bwanamich:
A lot of credit for opening hunting needs to go to Michel Mantheakis. Zanzibar duiker , Zanzibar suni, adders duiker and one more species that escapes me are now available to us hunters, with the endorsement of the IUCN!

Thanks for the info.
Do you know where I can get more infos on this?

Dennis

On Jim's facebook he mentioned he'll be after blue duiker and the four toed elephant shrew as additional species.

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Originally posted by Peter Andersen:
On Jim's facebook he mentioned he'll be after blue duiker and the four toed elephant shrew as additional species.

Good Lord.... he's different - that's for sure!!!

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:

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Originally posted by Peter Andersen:
On Jim's facebook he mentioned he'll be after blue duiker and the four toed elephant shrew as additional species.

Good Lord.... he's different - that's for sure!!!

Elephant Shrew! Good grief? When I was in high school, I had a buddy that had graduated the year before and was living on his own, just starting out in life, not making a lot of money just yet. He was living in a trailer house that was infested with mice. We used to sit on the sofa with a .22 short pump rifle and pick off mice that ventured out of their hole behind the TV! Good fun it was, and on the cheap as well!

Jim just likes to collect weird stuff that no one else has, for his private museum (of sorts). You should have seen all the junk he bought back from PNG last year that he then had to cart halfway around Australia ....

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Originally posted by Peter Andersen:
On Jim's facebook he mentioned he'll be after blue duiker and the four toed elephant shrew as additional species.

I read that as well but I cannot believe someone would hunt that.
What caliber is he using?

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Originally posted by Caracal:

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Originally posted by Peter Andersen:
On Jim's facebook he mentioned he'll be after blue duiker and the four toed elephant shrew as additional species.

I read that as well but I cannot believe someone would hunt that.
What caliber is he using?

He just purchased a VC 600NE. A suitable caliber for elephant shrew I should think!



I do see with Jim's hunting, and his participating in the SCI awards programs, the motivation behind those awards. Certainly not something that appeals to me, nor many here on AR, but as stated previously, it does tend to inspire hunters with the means necessary, to go to the more remote and "weird" places to hunt animals that would normally be overlooked, thereby spreading funds around to those off the beaten track lands in order to promote conservation through hunting.

I dont think Jim is really hung-up on awards in any sense. Jim's show is sponsored by SCI. SCI wants to promote the good side of the awards program, so Jim participates. It was only a few years ago that Jim did not have much recorded in the 'book' at all.

I am not speaking for him, just saying how I see that it may be. My opinion only.

There is no better ambassadeur for SCI and a well-run awards program than Jim. There is no greater advocate for ethical hunting in our age.

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Originally posted by Matt Graham:
I dont think Jim is really hung-up on awards in any sense. Jim's show is sponsored by SCI. SCI wants to promote the good side of the awards program, so Jim participates. It was only a few years ago that Jim did not have much recorded in the 'book' at all.

I am not speaking for him, just saying how I see that it may be. My opinion only.

There is no better ambassadeur for SCI and a well-run awards program than Jim. There is no greater advocate for ethical hunting in our age.

In a way it all comes down to business for him I should think. Personal aspirations aside, it promotes SCI while at the same time promoting himself and his various hunting related businesses.

However, lets be honest…….. man, the nature of the beast. Aside from the mechanics of feeding ones self and family and paying the bills, in the end men collect, pursue awards, seek to be in record books and do good deeds to obtain verification of self worth and/or fame, fortune and the attention that comes with it. Not just Jim, all men.