Go | New | Find | Notify | Tools | Reply |
One of Us |
I had to leave Reno early and missed George Bush's talk Saturday night. I'm curious about what he might have said about hunters and the guy who replaced him. Bill Quimby | ||
|
One of Us |
A fantastic speech. He spoke, in part, of the great honor that had been his to serve as our President and also spoke about many of the guiding principles that he followed in serving as President of the United States. As an example, he spoke of the guiding principle of protecting religious freedom for all, he spoke of protecting us from terrorism, of also establishing the rights of all humankind to be free and to able to choose and have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness under democratic rule. Interestingly enough, he thanked everyone in attendance for all of the prayers that had been spoken and said on his behalf and that of First Lady Laura Bush for the eight years that they had served and how they how felt the influence of those prayers as they had served. He paid tribute to the men and women in uniform and said that the greatest thing that he missed from being the President of the United States was being commander in chief of such great men and women. He paid tribute to the sacrifices that they made and had made for us and talked of one soldier who had lost a leg in Iraq, who returned and with great determination did all that he could to return to a normal life. He eventually met Bush at the White House and they ran together on the South lawn, with the soldier beating him in a race. He was in the audience that evening. I tried to obtain a copy of the speech from SCI but they said that they couldn't release it. I wish we could get a copy of it and publish it. Any influence that you might have with SCI, Bill? He said that the guiding principles that he entered the White House with were unchanged during those eight years and were never subject to the winds of social or political change or political correctness, and that he left the White House with the same guiding principles that he entered with. He really didn't have to say anything about the guy who replaced him. It was evident from his speech that there was and is a vast difference between the two. As to hunting, I can't really recall much, but they did present him with the highest grade Beretta over and under shotgun, in 20 ga, after his speech (Beretta officials) and made him an honorary life ambassador for SCI, like his father. I do believe that he also thanked SCI for all of the work that it did for hunters and sportsman here in the U.S. and worldwide. There were lots of standing ovations, cheers and support during his speech that's for sure. He did make the comment, something to the effect, that after it had been determined that he and Dick Cheney had won the election for the 6th or 7th time, that they could finally get to work. He paid a brief tribute to Dick Cheney and to his daughter Liz, and said that Dick Cheney was the right man to serve as Vice President. | |||
|
One of Us |
What does any of the above have to do with AFICAN HUNTING? There is anouther Forum on this web page for this type of matter. It is called The Political Forum. See... http://forums.accuratereloadin...rums/a/frm/f/3811043 Sincerely, E Pluribus Unum - where out of many, we will become one. | |||
|
One of Us |
I am sure the posting police will take care of this, as they do with all post they deem unrelated to Africian Hunting in their eyes. Personall as SCI does much for Africian Hunting I do see the relativity for the post to be here and I for one am very happy it is here. | |||
|
one of us |
Thanks for the summary--B2 is a great friend of hunting community. | |||
|
One of Us |
Great summary UEG. I could visualize what you wrote. Just wished I could have been there to add to the applause. | |||
|
One of Us |
It was a speech delivered at SCI to an audience who are almost exclusively hunters. I think it fits better here than that pit called the Polical Forum. If I had stumbled into there first I probably would never have returned. Not that would really matter in the grand scheme of things. More and more who is in Washington, president and congress, will determine if US citizens get to continue to hunt here or in Africa. DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
|
one of us |
Really wished I could have attended. GW is a true gentleman and a positive influence for our interests. Jim "Bwana Umfundi" NRA | |||
|
One of Us |
GW is definitely a true gentleman, a hunter, conservationist, a patriot and a man steeped in righteous principles and integrity. And this fits here on the African Forum as much as any AR Post dealing with the SCI Convention or the DSC Convention. | |||
|
one of us |
IMO, anything to do with SCI has to do with African hunting, and hunting in general. Beside all that, Bill asked the question here, so the answers were posted here. If anyone has a dislike of any post here, all that is needed is to click right on by it, and forget it! Nobody is forced to read any post he doesn't like no matter where it is posted. I think it is not the content of the account of the speech that offends the poster but who gave the speech. If that is the case the title should have told him that he didn't want to read it! Intollerance is what belongs in the cess-pool called the political forum! ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
|
One of Us |
100%, well said UEG. | |||
|
One of Us |
I'm good with it here. It has a political element but no more so than many, many other things no one objects to here. If it were to go any place else, the only relevant venue I can think of would be American Big Game. As far as the politcial forum is concerned, it doesn't belong there as the main thrust of this thread is not politics for its own self. Unless it's made into that. | |||
|
One of Us |
Virginia Creeper: Please accept my apologies for not posting it elsewhere. I confess to being misled by what the "S" in SCI signifies. It led me to believe (obviously mistakenly) that my post had as much right to be here as the many posts about books and videos that show up here month after month instead of in the Books and Videos forum. Use Enough Gun: I also wish I could get a copy of his speech, but it will be eleven years on March 30 since I retired from my post as SCI's publications director and I have absolutely no influence with or insights into the organization (not that I ever had either). In fact, the last time I called headquarters, the club's operator asked, "Bill who?" Bill Quimby | |||
|
One of Us |
Absolutely! It wsa a magnificent speech and quite appropriate for this forum. IT had nothing to do with politics. jorge USN (ret) DRSS Verney-Carron 450NE Cogswell & Harrison 375 Fl NE Sabatti Big Five 375 FL Magnum NE DSC Life Member NRA Life Member | |||
|
One of Us |
Virginia Creep - Grow up and stop whining. Safari Club International (SCI), I think that qualifies it for inclusion on the African Forum. Don't like it, don't read it, simple huh? Larry Sellers SCI Life Member
| |||
|
One of Us |
Virginia Creeper that is. Guess I didn't get it spelled right? Larry Sellers SCI Life Member | |||
|
one of us |
Virginia Creeper you forget it is not the forum but the posters who determine the nature of the post. These folks are just as capable of launching ad hominem attacks no matter what the forum. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
|
One of Us |
SHEESH!!---------who pissed in your Wheaties this morning?? OMG!-- my bow is "pull-push feed" - how dreadfully embarrasing!!!!! | |||
|
One of Us |
I'm very glad this was posted and especially on THIS forum...I probably would not waste my time looking elsewhere. I too was curious as to what the former President had to say and am glad to have this information, even happier to know that the President gave a speech fitting to to his image and that of his office. A gentleman and fine representative. | |||
|
One of Us |
If you write GWB office...you can probably get a copy of the speech I can't find the info for his office bu you could also contact the library folks: Contact Information George W. Bush Presidential Library 1725 Lakepointe Drive Lewisville, TX 75057 Phone: 972-353-0545 Fax: 972-353-0599 Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
|
One of Us |
Now that we've established this belongs here, what did Liz Cheney have to say (in summary)? From everything I've heard, she's very sharp. GWB is a bird hunter but as I recall not a big game or deer hunter. I've never heard anything about what he favors in guns, although that would be interesting to know. | |||
|
One of Us |
Mike: That was my next step and I have all of the information to contact him to see if a copy of his speech can be obtained. Shack: Russell Mocs measured GWB for a custom pair of bird hunting boots on Saturday afternoon, and he also received a very beautiful scrimshawed knife set from another vendor, that had been scrimshawed with the presidential seal, etc. I got to hold and exam the knife set a few hours before he went through the convention hall and talk with the vendor who had made the presentation set for him. I am sure that he definitely favors the highest end Beretta 20 ga over and under, fully engraved shotgun that they presented him after his speech Saturday evening! | |||
|
Powered by Social Strata |
Please Wait. Your request is being processed... |
Visit our on-line store for AR Memorabilia