Not sure where to post this…but I’m pretty sure this comes as no surprise to us here.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/u...d-traffic-rcna136132

Never could understand how Ackerman, a vendor, got so much power .

Helicopter rides to Nascar race, black car services, private jets to the Bahamas, $270k worth of suits...

This money was donated by people who thought their contributions were going towards fighting for our 2nd Amendment rights.

Wayne alleges that he paid back, with interest, any expenses that were 'wrong.' I'd like to see a full accounting showing both sides of that ledger.

While I don't approve of the way NRA is spending our donations, I think the prosecution should look at other non-profit organizations that are spending money on private jets. They can investigate waste in the government too while they are at it.

Move along folks. Nothing to see here. Pay no attention to the expression, "There's a sucker born every minute." Just keep sending your money to the good ol' NRA. Thank you for the generous donation. Please send more. Thank you very much.

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Originally posted by Baker458:
Helicopter rides to Nascar race, black car services, private jets to the Bahamas, $270k worth of suits...

This money was donated by people who thought their contributions were going towards fighting for our 2nd Amendment rights.

Wayne alleges that he paid back, with interest, any expenses that were 'wrong.' I'd like to see a full accounting showing both sides of that ledger.

Amen.

When we need them most they’re spending it on vacation.

Point is yes they do a vital service but that in no way excuses them for the waste fraud and abuses some have committed.

No apologies
But and that But, look at many non profits and you find out that 70-90% goes to administrative expenses aka more employees, trips, gifts …you name it
iRS allows many of these things and NRA is no different

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Originally posted by Bivoj:
No apologies
But and that But, look at many non profits and you find out that 70-90% goes to administrative expenses aka more employees, trips, gifts …you name it
iRS allows many of these things and NRA is no different

Unfortunately that is way more the norm with non-profits especially ones that are national. Local ones are usually better but not always. I have seen nation non-profits that have less than .05 cents of every dollar actually go to the cause and the rest goes for all the other crap. Some of the really big names are the worst at it.

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Originally posted by MtElkHunter:

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Originally posted by Bivoj:
No apologies
But and that But, look at many non profits and you find out that 70-90% goes to administrative expenses aka more employees, trips, gifts …you name it
iRS allows many of these things and NRA is no different

Unfortunately that is way more the norm with non-profits especially ones that are national. Local ones are usually better but not always. I have seen nation non-profits that have less than .05 cents of every dollar actually go to the cause and the rest goes for all the other crap. Some of the really big names are the worst at it.

Agreed and that’s my point
NRA SIMPLY NEEDS TO CLEANUP THEIR ACT

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Agreed and that’s my point
NRA SIMPLY NEEDS TO CLEANUP THEIR ACT

So, what’s the 74 member board doing??

Bottom line, if you're the NRA board, you KNOW that your decisions and spending are going to be scrutinized more than other organizations.

I have no doubt that if we could crack the books on the Clinton Foundation, and many other organizations, they are a shit show financially. But the media isn't clamoring for the destruction of the Clinton Foundation.

Knowing that, the luxury spending done at NRA is moronic at best. If you're a 'targeted' organization, you must make every decision as if an auditor is looking over your shoulder. Because eventually, they will be. It's just reality.

I don't have a lot of sympathy if they didn't understand that. Because it makes them seem incompetent, arrogant, unaware, or just plain fucking stupid. And I really don't suffer fools very well.

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Originally posted by Brec:

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Agreed and that’s my point
NRA SIMPLY NEEDS TO CLEANUP THEIR ACT

So, what’s the 74 member board doing??

working their hardest to fill the ceo position themselves.

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Originally posted by CharlesL:
While I don't approve of the way NRA is spending our donations, I think the prosecution should look at other non-profit organizations that are spending money on private jets. They can investigate waste in the government too while they are at it.

In Africa, the UN guys are the ones with brand new land rovers.

The NRA atrocity has been well covered under "EMBARASSING ELEPHANT HUNT"... chronical of WLP and Wife on an African Safari, check that thread!!

Here is a cut and paste from "OUTDOOR WIRE" industry newsletter after SHOT SHOW:


FEATURE
Distrust to Disgust
SHOT Show 2024 saw a uniquely large gathering of CEOs and other senior industry leaders.

The occasion? The joint 75th birthday celebration of Hornady and Ruger.

It was a large party, with live music, a sit-down dinner for 400-plus guests, giveaways, and, very few speeches. It was an occasion, as society writers used to write, where a good time was had by all.

Even as the a good time was being had, there was more than a small bit of discussion regarding the state of another, older organization: the National Rifle Association.

As usual, no one was going on the record about the NRA's current state. That's just as well, many of the comments would have been unprintable.

With one possible exception, resplendent in his canary yellow NRA million-buck contributors jacket, no one seemed happy about the NRAs current state of affairs. The comment of the evening came from the CEO who spotted that yellow jacket and quipped he's probably drinking Budweiser, too.

For nearly three years, many of these CEOs have quietly protested the corruption among the NRAs senior leadership by closing their corporate wallets. Dollars that once flowed into NRA coffers have been placed in escrow, waiting for the NRA to clean up its house.

As the proceedings in the New York City courtroom have demonstrated, any organizational cleanup is a long way from complete. Yesterday, Wayne LaPierre continued his testimony regarding his spending on travel, clothing and contracts with associates. During his testimony yesterday, LaPierre told NRA lawyer Sarah Rogers he felt the attorney general should have praised the NRA for it's â course correction - reforms to improve accounting practices in 2018, two years before the AG sued the organization for violating New York State law governing nonprofits.

Instead, LaPierre finds himself essentially the primary witness -for the prosecution- in the corruption case. Later in yesterday's testimony, he admitted he failed to do fulfill his duties by not disclosing transportation he authorized for family and friends.

But, there is -finally- light at the end of the tunnel.

Effective tomorrow, January 31, 2024, Wayne LaPierre will no longer be the Executive Vice President of the National Rifle Association.

Despite a dislike of Letitia James and her undisguised hatred of the NRA, she has done - using the rule of law - what the membership was unwilling OR UNABLE to do for years: remove the executive who, by his own testimony, was for years using the organization as a personal piggy bank. Although LaPierre's attorneys say his resignation was health-related, there's little doubt that the trial less than 72 hours before the resignation was weighing -heavily- on LaPierre. Work stressors were cited as a factor in his decision to announce he would be stepping down.

For years, reformers daring to defy the cabal that controlled the NRA have been punished.

That became obvious in 2019, after reformers in Indianapolis offered LaPierre the opportunity to resign. Instead, he and his supporters punished every dissident.

Since then, corporations have closed their wallets and quietly delivered the message that the NRA needed to clean itself up. Instead, more than a hundred million dollars of membership funds have been spent to defend indefensible abuses of trust and duty. Abuses that have been admitted to in court.

Not liking truth doesn't make it any less true.

NRA members must acknowledge, then move beyond the fact that LaPierre and his cohorts have effectively bankrupted the organization.

Instead of dwelling on things the membership allowed to happen (denying is enabling) because they didn't like the people delivering the news, they must decide if they want their organization to be around in the future.

Survival will require significant change.

If the NRAs house isn't put in order after this trial, future judicial proceedings are all but certain. Should that happen, future judges won't find petitions to dissolve the organization to be a bridge too far. The pattern of misconduct would be undeniable.

Allowing it to continue would be inexcusable.

In the current trials opening arguments, defense counsel created an organizational chart that showed the membership changes on the NRA board during the LaPierre tenure.

It was effective at showing how the members have changed over the years. That helped reduce the pro LaPierre BoD argument. But the chart didn't show how pro LaPierre members had been elevated to senior positions. Ranked by power positions on the board you could see their ability to control (rubber-stamp) all the spending, monitoring and reporting of the organization.

In a board with too-many members, placing the most ardent supporters into the most influential slots meant the pillage was on. Several of those board members profited, too.

This trial has shown their continued mendacity to cover their misdeeds. The duplicity shown by the defendants, some board members and senior staffers is almost beyond belief. Breach of trust and duty isn't debatable; it's admitted by their testimonies.

For three years, we've avoided speculation regarding the NRAs problems. We've often been criticized for ignoring the story.

We weren't ignoring it we were waiting to see facts, not assertions. After more than half a century covering courthouses, I know nothing is ever accurately -or fairly - decided in the court of public opinion.

Only when right hands are raised, oaths are sworn, and the potential for punishment is present does shading stop and truth dominate.

The outcome of this trial is still to be decided - by the jury. Administration of justice- if the verdicts go against the defendants- will come via Judge Joel Cohen.

But whatever the verdicts, they are not where the righting of past wrongs end; they're only where they can finally begin.

Should the National Rifle Association members and supporters not demand effective, honest and transparent leadership moving forward, it only a matter of time before the organization will be disbanded by its opponents. They will have the law on their side.

None of us want that. The NRA is still needed.

Jim Shepherd

The reference to the Yellow Coat is, of course, BIG Donor, from every purchase you make from MIDWAY USA, CEO Larry Potterfield.
WHAT A TRAVESTY!!

But changing the subject and guesstimating that everybody else must be doing it too doesn’t justify the actions of bad actors or make it go away.

The obvious point is the NRA needs a severe house cleaning to regain trust with the organization and its members - period.