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Is there an Promotion-Video for this DVD?
Or more infos??

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Originally posted by Dr. FM:
Is there an Promotion-Video for this DVD?
Or more infos??

FM

If you have seen any of his previous videos, you should know what to expect.

A load of bloody bullshit about how he lets the animals decide how to die.

Of course, he is holding the rifle though.

The only addition I heard in these new videos is Mark Sullivan is shooting canned lions in South Africa!

How does he get them in the can...???
Must be a BIG can huh..???
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What a Maroon...!!

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Originally posted by Don Edwards:
How does he get them in the can...???
Must be a BIG can huh..???
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What a Maroon...!!

Nothing is impossible for a man who has been hoodwinking the ignorant masses for so long!

Never met a more ignorant person in my life. Met him at SCI years ago and was not impressed and shaking my head as I walked away.

Actually I have always found Mark to be very approachable and a genuinely nice guy. Not arrogant and quite different from his on-screen persona.

And while I do not agree with letting an animal suffer needlessly and feel a personal responsibility to kill as quickly and humanely as possible, I will admit that his videos are expertly filmed.

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Actually I have always found Mark to be very approachable and a genuinely nice guy.

Ditto on that..

But he is a guy I love to make fun of. Now that the video is named, USE ENOUGH DEATH,

I propose a name change to:

USE ENOUGH TOILET PAPER ??

Should sell a million of them
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My only comment on Mark Sullivan would be nothing new to anyone who knows me. However there may be some other DVDs from Express yourself that would be worth watching'

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Actually I have always found Mark to be very approachable and a genuinely nice guy. Not arrogant and quite different from his on-screen persona.

THAT IS CORRECT!!
:-)

Never seen someone so arrogant when talking about himself. He will talk to anyone as long as he can brag about how the animal has to choose life or death. Purposely wounding animals is not right in any book.

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Purposely wounding animals is not right in any book.

Not to argue a point, but I don't think he and his hunter intentionally wound animals. I do believe he handles follow-ups much different than most by not trying to put them down as quicky as possible. Most PH's I have hunted with try and get a fatal bullet in an animal as soon as an opportunity presents itself. Mark approaches the animal to provoke a charge, and while it may make for interesting film, it is not always perceived as the most humane method of dispatching his target.

Shooting a client's trophy is another characteristic of Mr. Sullivan's I don't care for but there is no shortage of hunters who want to be immortalized on celluloid with him! A price you pay for fame I guess.

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Originally posted by Dr. FM:

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Actually I have always found Mark to be very approachable and a genuinely nice guy. Not arrogant and quite different from his on-screen persona.

THAT IS CORRECT!!
:-)

I am sure he is a nice guy in real life,well maybe he needs to be that way to sell his services,but I find his style of hunting utterly repugnant & disgusting,his being nice etc does not make up for what he does.

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Originally posted by Dr. FM:
Is there an Promotion-Video for this DVD?
Or more infos??

FM

Hi Frank,
I spoke with Mark and he will be putting together a trailer. Once I receive it I will revise edit it, upload it to our YouTube Channel (YouTube channel link is in my signature below), and then get it up on the Webpage.
Best regards,
Shawn

The name seems odd. Is there a story behind it?

Well I am guessing the new title is a play on the title of Ruark's book "Use Enough Gun".

Could be wrong, but that is what immediately sprang to mind.

Perhaps. Seems odd and a horrible title.

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Originally posted by bwanamrm:

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Purposely wounding animals is not right in any book.

Not to argue a point, but I don't think he and his hunter intentionally wound animals. I do believe he handles follow-ups much different than most by not trying to put them down as quicky as possible. Most PH's I have hunted with try and get a fatal bullet in an animal as soon as an opportunity presents itself. Mark approaches the animal to provoke a charge, and while it may make for interesting film, it is not always perceived as the most humane method of dispatching his target.

Shooting a client's trophy is another characteristic of Mr. Sullivan's I don't care for but there is no shortage of hunters who want to be immortalized on celluloid with him! A price you pay for fame I guess.

Alright.

let us go with the assumption that he does not purposely wounds animals.

Then he must be the most unlucky PH that has ever existed to get clients who are so clueless as to wound so many animals.

Or could it be that he is so utterly out of his depth to be a professional hunter that he is incapable of leading his clients to the animals properly so that they can dispatch them without wounding?

Take your pick.

Saeed,
Mark is a controversial figure, no doubt and I don't condone the way he hunts, never have. That said, and you have shot many more buff than me, but buffalo are incredibly tough and often require follow-ups. I watched a hunter on Aaron Nielsen's video last night shoot a bull at least 5 times with a .416 Remington. Now that hunter would have liked nothing less than a one shot kill. But it happens rarely on buff without hitting the CNS. The difference in how that bull was dispatched was that Aaron's hunter put another bullet in that buff every chance he got when he got it. He did not walk up to it and provoke a charge. From what I have seen on his DVD's, I think Mark would have approached the follow-up totally different...

I think because he is controversial we make generalizations about Mark that make half-truths or suppositions become gospel.

And that is all I have to say about that.

anyone who has that many charges in a single season undoubtedly has the world's worst shooting clients-or something is rotten in Denmark.,....

The title of this one - Use Enough Death - elevates unintentional self-parody, not to say malapropism, to an art form.

To paraphrase another great master of the malaprop, I am sure that this video will be unparalyzed in the history of film.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
anyone who has that many charges in a single season undoubtedly has the world's worst shooting clients-or something is rotten in Denmark.,....

How many charges in a single season would that be JD? I read where this DVD covered 9 seasons and contains 13 hunts, not 1 season. Most of his DVDs contain something on the order of 10 or so hunts, so 13 doesn't seem unusual for his productions. Most of his DVDs average 1 or 2 charges. I think one of his DVDs had 3 charges. I can't remember any having 4. Point being that although bashing Mark Sullivan is a recognized sport here on AR, many of the comments against him are simply not accurate. That's not to say that I don't have objections with some of his methods but rather that I recognize not everything said against him here on AR is fair or accurate.

Sorry to interrupt the lynch mob!

BTW, the name of this newest offering is a bit more than strange. In fact, it's downright laughable.

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In fact, it's downright laughable.

You mean just like everything he does regarding hunting?

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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In fact, it's downright laughable.

You mean just like everything he does regarding hunting?

No, that's not what I mean. But your response was predictable concerning Mark Sullivan.

From what I have seen is that most of his clients are double users and they are often asked to shoot buffalo off hand and at excessive ranges. This promotes wounding.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by bwanamrm:

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Purposely wounding animals is not right in any book.

Not to argue a point, but I don't think he and his hunter intentionally wound animals. I do believe he handles follow-ups much different than most by not trying to put them down as quicky as possible. Most PH's I have hunted with try and get a fatal bullet in an animal as soon as an opportunity presents itself. Mark approaches the animal to provoke a charge, and while it may make for interesting film, it is not always perceived as the most humane method of dispatching his target.

Shooting a client's trophy is another characteristic of Mr. Sullivan's I don't care for but there is no shortage of hunters who want to be immortalized on celluloid with him! A price you pay for fame I guess.

Alright.

let us go with the assumption that he does not purposely wounds animals.

Then he must be the most unlucky PH that has ever existed to get clients who are so clueless as to wound so many animals.

Or could it be that he is so utterly out of his depth to be a professional hunter that he is incapable of leading his clients to the animals properly so that they can dispatch them without wounding?

Take your pick.

+1 !

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Originally posted by fairgame:
From what I have seen is that most of his clients are double users and they are often asked to shoot buffalo off hand and at excessive ranges. This promotes wounding.

Totally agree.

From the few DVD that i have watched, both Double rifles and Bolt action rifles are used by the clients.

Bolt Rifles From the 375 H & H to 505 bolt actions. some with scopes and some with open sights.
Double rifles from the 450 NE to the 600 NE.
I am sure i have missed some.


Most initial shots were taken with in 30 to 50 yards from what i can tell.

Some clients were able to drop there Cape Buffalo with 1 shot while other clients were in for the long haul. I do remember that a few clients ran out of ammo while doing there follow up on there wounded Cape buffalo.

The thing is not not every wounded cape buffalo produced a charge.

Reading that this production has taken 7 to 9 or more years to produce totally new footage. And that there are 13 totally new safaris.

In 9 years how many safari clients has Mark had? In looking at his home page he appears to be booked yearly. So lets say 10 clients. As Mark Sullivan specializes in Cape Buffalo i would estimate that the clients will go after 2 Cape Buffalo each for 20 Cape buffalo a year. that is 20 cape buffalo a year for 9 years, will take us to approximately 180 cape buffalo hunted or taken. And now how many Cape Buffalo charges are being shown on this new film. We know that there is a lion hunt in south Africa, and elephant hunt, possibly a hippo hunt being on the new DVD. That would take us to a possible 10 cape buffalo hunts, and we do not know if there is 1 or more charges until we are able to review the DVD.

So as Todd Williams indicates the lynch mob is in swing, however i will wait to see what will be produced before making judgment.

I will not get involved in the bashing of Mark nor defending him. The DVD name seems bizarre at best . Perhaps there is some marketing genius here. Look at all the discussion here on AR.

I'm just sayin...............

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Originally posted by larryshores: ....Perhaps there is some marketing genius here....

That's what I've thought all along. This guy comes across as a total douche IMHO, but he keeps his name out there and he keeps making plenty of doughnuts off of it! Attention doesn't have to be positive to capitalized upon. If you think he's full of bull shizzle and wish he'd go away, ignore him and his videos.

I've enjoyed all of his videos thus far. I suspect I will enjoy this one as well.

Always found Mark to be polite, respectful, appreciative and quite humble in all of the correspondence and discussions I've had with him. Same was true in all of my conversations with his wife.

Mark will be speaking at the Houston Safari Club monthly meeting in April. I look forward to meeting him. I made a post once commenting on one of his books and how much I enjoyed it and how well written it was. Several days later I got a call from Mark thanking me. While some may chose to criticize him, I found that to be a very gracious and unexpected occurrence. Not many other producers of hunting DVDs or authors of hunting books that would do the same.

I've done my share of MS bashing. Nothing over the top - pulling the piss a bit, I suppose. He's been the brunt of jokes here in Zim since black death part 1. Whatever, a bit childish, nothing serious. I'm 40 now, more mature and don't crack as many Mark jokes as before, but I will never, ever approve of or condone his style of hunting. It is simply too far removed from what I have been taught by professionals here. The point of how many charges he and his clients actually do face can be analyzed, debated and downplayed ad nauseum, but any angle you look at it he experiences way, way more charges than the average pro, because he wants to be charged. I have learnt that the plan is to avoid being charged... Fine, he has his big stopper and it hasn't let him down yet - he hasn't let himself down. Excellent, good going, but there is always that frosty friday (foot in an antbear hole at the crucial moment), and I would personally rather hunt with and learn from the guys who reckon they should choose how the buff dies. I'm sure Mark is a charming chap, I just don't think his videos have much to do with hunting.

I ordered mine last week cant wait to recieve it.Mark will release "Use Enough Death" Feb 15,2013.I have Mark's entire catalog and books,Great PH and Great American,All the Best Mark........

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Originally posted by fairgame:
From what I have seen is that most of his clients are double users and they are often asked to shoot buffalo off hand and at excessive ranges. This promotes wounding.

Bingo.

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
The title of this one - Use Enough Death - elevates unintentional self-parody, not to say malapropism, to an art form.

To paraphrase another great master of the malaprop, I am sure that this video will be unparalyzed in the history of film.

Can someone channel Ruark and get his impressions??

ExpressYourself: Does this DVD contain any footage of Mark's Australian buffalo? Cheers.

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Originally posted by BenKK:
ExpressYourself: Does this DVD contain any footage of Mark's Australian buffalo? Cheers.

Ben,
Yes it does. There are two buffalo hunts from Australia featured in this DVD. You can read more about the DVD here.

Best regards,
Shawn

Thank you, Shawn.

Cheers,

Ben