I had an idea for a trophy room which included some of the non-game animals, like vultures, bushbabys, odd small animals and birds, and the like. Is it possible to collect these animals on hunts and import them? I thought it would be really neat to have a vulture flying around the room, and other little animals put in the dioramas and room to add character to the mounts. Thanks in advanced.

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Where I hunted in South Africa jackals and baboons were not considered game animals. I brought back a tanned skin of the black-backed jackal I took and it is very nice. I do not think you would ahve any problem with most of the non-predator birds that would be of interest in your diorama. Birds like guinea fowl and grouse are of course game birds as well but I don't know of any restrictions on taxidermy and importation of them. But as Alf says, birds like herons, vultures, eagles, and probably ibis as well are probably protected.

IMHO shooting any bird of prey is just wrong anywhere for any reason.

Though they are protected, and i understand that, two birds I would love to have in my trophy room are the white cattle egrets, and the ox peckers. I would love to have a couple Ox peckers on one of my buffalo shoulder mounts, and the white egret standing on the shoulders of another!

The African cattle egrets are common in the south of the USA, brought here 50 yrs ago on a large storm from west Africa. They are protected here as well, so both birds are out!

The only things I was permited to get export permts for was critters like Dassies, Vervet Monkeys, guinafowl, and franklins. I think having some of these are neat in the trophy room, I'm mounting my Serval sneaking over some rocks, with a Dassie on the other side. The Game birds I am using on lifesize mounts.

As for any "protected" critters, you take photo's of them, enlarge the photos and hang them in your trophy room!!!

You need to check with the Safari company before you begin your hunt, they will inform you as to what you can shoot and get export permits for.

Baboon,
It appears to me that you are an avid bird lover, but let me bloviate for a minute..

At one time in Idaho, we had the countrys largest population of game birds..With the protection of birds or prey and our lovely Magpie over the last number of years and according to a recent study, that population has dwindled to near nothing...

I have no problem with protecting a species until that species proliferates out of control, but when I drive from Twin Falls to Haily and see a hawk on every telephone post, its time to cull IMO...

I also believe in proper game managment that is not controlled by politically correct personel that bends which ever way the wind blows and cows done to such organizations as Greenpiece and the audiman (SP ? sorry) society at the expense of all other creatures...

Same applies to coyotes, wolves, Mt. Lion etc. the population need to be kept in control and in balance...We upset the balance of nature from time to time therefore we must correct those mistakes...The elephant and lion are good examples of poor managment, and only through proper hunting and culling can they survive as over population of any creature will result in a lack of food source and death is the end result...

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Originally posted by baboon:
IMHO shooting any bird of prey is just wrong anywhere for any reason.

and how are birds of prey different from the prey?

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Originally posted by Widowmaker416:
The only things I was permited to get export permts for was critters like Dassies, Vervet Monkeys, guinafowl, and franklins. I think having some of these are neat in the trophy room, I'm mounting my Serval sneaking over some rocks, with a Dassie on the other side. The Game birds I am using on lifesize mounts.

As for any "protected" critters, you take photo's of them, enlarge the photos and hang them in your trophy room!!!

You need to check with the Safari company before you begin your hunt, they will inform you as to what you can shoot and get export permits for.

Hmmm. Ray, lions and elephants are little babies compared to these guys.

http://www.nefsc.noaa.gov/faq/fishfaq2c.html



The Ultimate predator






Actually, if they weren't protected, you could make it "The Big Six" and add hunting them off SA as part of your Safari package. Still, you could take pictures...

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PS: Read carefully inder the article on the great white caught, taken out of the newspaper, they do say, in 1835, a 43 footer beached itself off SA. Now THAT would be a trophy. Wonder what caliber rifle you use on a 43 foot great white??? They also mention a 37 footer caught in a net in Canada...

However, there is ALWAYS a bigger fish, or, in this case whale.
First shots EVER, ORCA vs. Shark, in my back yard...

The above link has a movie of the fight, as well...

Ray,I am not so much an avid bird lover as I only find birds of prey interesting.Having had a great horned owl and goshawk in my teens as pets just puts them above all other birds IMHO.If I had a parrot as a pet perhaps I would feel that way about them.

Howard,As far as the differances between the two, I can train a bird of prey to hunt and then eat what it kills.A bird of prey to me is as nice as a beautifully built rifle.

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Originally posted by MacD37:
Though they are protected, and i understand that, two birds I would love to have in my trophy room are the white cattle egrets, and the ox peckers. I would love to have a couple Ox peckers on one of my buffalo shoulder mounts, and the white egret standing on the shoulders of another!

The African cattle egrets are common in the south of the USA, brought here 50 yrs ago on a large storm from west Africa. They are protected here as well, so both birds are out!

Many of the USFW laws make no sense at all. I would love to have a cattle egret standing beside my cape buffalo mount. When I mow my grass, dozens of cattle egrets follow along behind the mower, chasing insects and eating them. They are not even a native species, more like starling and English sparrows, but they are strictly protected. I have heard of taxidermists taking common doves, and with a little paint, red glass eyes, and a fake bill, making a pretty good ox pecker!

Wow, didn't realize this. A disappointment though.