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Thinking about the fast changing Africa we are living nowadays I have been trying to investigate how many of these legendary beasts have been sport hunted since the 2000s and trying to make a list, here is what I have so far hopefully you can add to this list or correct any wrong info I have. Namibia Kai Uwe Denker shot two both in Bushmanland: 1. A single tusker with a 115 tusk which was the biggest taken in Africa in decades until the recent big bull shot by Nixon 2. A thick but very short tusker weighting 105x101 3. A client of Mike Kibble shot one in the East Caprivi weighting 102x96 which won an award for best dangerous game shot that year Botswana 4. Shot in NG41 by a mexican client of Willy Mcdonald hunting with Johan Calitz outfit, the biggest bull shot in Bots since it´s reopening: 104x99 Mozambique 5. Shot in Kambako´s Block B in the Niassa Reserve by a client of Argentina guided by Jumbo Moore, a truly impressive tusker which I though would have weighted quite more : 104.5x101.5 6. Shot also in Niassa, in Block C by a client of Jamie Wilson, 110lbs on the huge tusk and 31lbs on the other tusk broken almost at the lip 7. A client Grant Taylor shot a single tusker with a 100lbs tusk in Moz, I don´t know in what area Tanzania 8. A client of Raoul Ramoni shot a huge old bull in what seems like Masailand, the website states it weighted 103 lbs 9. Angus Murray shot a bull with 101x86(broken) tusks in what I believe was GFOT Burunge block in Masailand. ( Another hundred pounder 105x103 was shot by scouts near the border with Moz but it was not a sport hunt) R.S.A 10. I believe a huge tame bull was shot in a reserve, the big tusk weighted 101 and the other tusk broken almost at the lip was 52 Zimbabwe 11. The huge tusker shot by Nixon´s client in Malapati 122x120, the biggest shot in Africa in several decades 12. I believe another client of Nixon shot a bull over 100 lbs, I have never been sure if it was a single tusker or it had both large tusks. 13. A client of Johnny Hulme shot a big bull in their Mahenye Concession weighting 100.5x82 14. Martin Pieter´s outfit shot a huge old bull in the Hwange tribal lands weighting 100.3x80 ph was Tinie Koke(SP) Thys de Vries has guided his clients to two bulls over 100 in the Tsholotsho South concession 15. One weighted 103x95 16. The other 101.5x95 From what I know these are all the greatest bulls sport hunted in Africa in the last years, hope you can chime in with any info! | ||
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http://www.24hourcampfire.com/...O_101_Pound_Elephant ManuelM, Reference #12, here is a photo of the tusks of the 101 pounder by Nixon. Excellent work putting together this list. Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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Yes Kathi, and it was client from Spain Nixon told me all about it " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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http://www.huntingreport.com/w...te.cfm?articleid=415 ManuelM, Check this link for photo and story from Mozambique with Roger Whittall, October 2008. Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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Thanks a lot for the information Kathi! On Nixons bull, I think that my confusion was that on his old webpage, the same client appeared with a very long tusked elephant but with only a tusk visible, maybe it was buried or maybe the pictures of Nixon and the clients are of two different set of tusks?, maybe boarkiller could clarify? I had never heard of the Mozambique bull shot with Roger´s outfit, it is certainly impressive, but I cannot seem to find any source stating the official weight. I suppose it was shot in their Nungu conession. | |||
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It's Tinie Kok, Nice guy, I met him at the Bulawayo Rugby Club in 2011. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Didn't Russ Broom take one that was over 100 a couple of years ago? Supposedly a game scout in TZ shot one that was over 100 several years ago. I saw pictures. My last trip to TZ was in 2007. Some guys from another camp came to our camp. They had this old guy who was a tracker. I immediately sensed that he was different. Definitely switched on. Retired elephant poacher. I asked him if he thought we could kill a big elephant in that area. He told me to give him 3 days and we could kill a big elephant. I asked him what was the biggest elephant that he had taken. He gave me the weight in kilos. I converted. It was in excess of 150 a side. He told me he had pictures in his village. If I came back, he would give them to me. I have not been back but I would damn sure like to see those pictures. | |||
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Larry..Russ's elephant did not go 100. High 80's if I remember. | |||
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#7 I believe Grant Taylor took that elephant in Coutada 7. | |||
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I believe there were some issues regarding this elephant being shot in an area that did not have a quota at the time. | |||
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Was it originally reported to be over 100? | |||
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That is true. | |||
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Yes I believe it was Larry. | |||
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Larry, Neat story regarding the ex poacher. You need to go back so you can get and post the photos of the 150 pounder for us. Manuel, thanks for posting this thread. This may not meet your parameters, but Eric Balson shot a 110/105 in the Niassa, Mozambique in 1997-2000. It was terrorizing villagers as I recall. | |||
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There was a show where one of Jack Brittingham's clients took an archery elephant. The PH says on the video that it would go over 100 as I recall. Not sure if it did or not. Does anyone know how big that elephant was? | |||
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I had dinner one evening and the guy that shot the bull with Roger Whittal was with us at the table. He told me the very interesting story and yes they shot it in the "wrong block".The bull was shot on the border of the Maua and Npepe areas of Niassa I believe. I hunted and worked there a year after that bull was killed. That area was well known for just silly Elephant bulls and right on the southern round tip of their migratory route from the Selous. I heard from Symon Leach that the poaching just decimated the Elephants. It is so sad that there is no value on their heads for the locals other than poaching......so sad. That area is one of the most fantastic beautiful place in Africa that I have been to. Charl van Rooyen Owner Infinito Travel Group www.infinito-safaris.com charl@infinito-safaris.com Cell: +27 78 444 7661 Tel: +27 13 262 4077 Fax:+27 13 262 3845 Hereford Street 28A Groblersdal 0470 Limpopo R.S.A. "For the Infinite adventure" Plains Game Dangerous Game Bucket List Specialists Wing-Shooting In House Taxidermy Studio In House Dip and Pack Facility In House Shipping Service Non-Hunting Tours and Safaris Flight bookings "I promise every hunter visiting us our personal attention from the moment we meet you, until your trophies hang on your wall. Our all inclusive service chain means you work with one person (me) taking responsibility during the whole process. Affordable and reputable Hunting Safaris is our game! With a our all inclusive door to door service, who else do you want to have fun with?" South Africa Tanzania Uganda | |||
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larry: Simply wow, I don't believe that tracker had any reason to lie to you, 150 lbs... even when hundred pounders were relatively a common occurrence a bull that size is just amazing, shame he did not had the pictures with him AlisaWheels: I believe this is the elephant bow hunt you are referring to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcmfcihdd3U One of the guides tells Jack it is definitely a hundred pounder, but despite the bull being huge I don't think it would reach that mark, also a hundred pounder usually gets a fair share of publicity,I have never heard much about that bull, despite Brittingham doing much of his hunting in Tanzania the terrain and vegetation looks a lot like Botswana. Charl: The slaughter on the Selous- Niassa areas is one of the greatest tragedies to wildlife in recent times in my opinion, northern Mozambique was probably the last stronghold of really big jumbos and it is a shame what has happened, Did you happen to know if the bull shot with Roger was indeed over the 100lbs mark? | |||
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The bull shot with PH Peter Wood, Roger Whittall, was mid 90ties. | |||
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The Nixon's bull 101 lbs, with Spanish client had the other tusk lot shorter ( worn out ) Nixon said, the guy was supposed to send him more pics but he never did " Until the day breaks and the nights shadows flee away " Big ivory for my pillow and 2.5% of Neanderthal DNA flowing thru my veins. When I'm ready to go, pack a bag of gunpowder up my ass and strike a fire to my pecker, until I squeal like a boar. Yours truly , Milan The Boarkiller - World according to Milan PS I have big boar on my floor...but it ain't dead, just scared to move... Man should be happy and in good humor until the day he dies... Only fools hope to live forever “ Hávamál” | |||
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Being around the guy for a while, I think he was telling the truth. I would love to see those pictures. | |||
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http://forums.accuratereloadin...751057211#4751057211 Link to 2009 AR thread, Foreign Poachers arrested in Beira for killing a 100 pounder. Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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http://www.huntingreport.com/current_issue.cfm?id=456 100-Lb. Jumbo Seized; More New Hunts Open (posted March - 2009) E-mail Extra subscribers will remember a bulletin I sent out on January 8th regarding a 100-plus-pound jumbo taken in Mozambique this past October. The elephant was taken by a German client with PH Peter Wood, guiding for Guy Whittall of Roger Whittall Safaris. The bulletin included a photograph of the spectacular ivory. You can see it on our homepage where we post bulletins 24 hours after E-mail Extra subscribers receive them. At the time, we reported that the ivory had not been officially weighed yet, due to a lack of accurate scales that would accommodate tusks of this size, and we promised a complete follow-up report on the hunt. Well, I have now learned why the exact weight remains unknown. Seems the tusks were confiscated by wildlife officials because the animal was taken illegally. According to Department of Tourism officials I spoke with over the phone, there was no elephant quota or permits issued where the elephant was taken. Not only was there no quota for the specific concession, but the entire region. Officials say the elephant was originally shot in the Nungo concession. The animal crossed over into a neighboring concession where the hunters followed it and finished it off, according to the official report. Upon hearing that an elephant had been killed in the area, officials were dispatched to the camp where they seized the ivory. At this writing the tusks were at the Lichinga tourism offices. The investigation had not been closed yet, but officials told me that was only because three agencies were involved and each was determining the fines and other sanctions that would be leveled and exactly who would be held responsible. Speculation is that Peter Wood did not know there was no quota and was merely following the boss’ orders. Whittall, however, had to know they could not get permits. He had not returned any of my e-mails at press time. Besides the obvious legal matters and question of ethical conduct, what makes this incident all the worse is that Mozambique has a reputation for not being able to curtail poaching and illegal sport hunting, which is why the US Fish & Wildlife Service will not allow the importation of ivory from Mozam-bique. This latest stunt only puts the elephant hunting program there at further risk, which may explain why the authorities I spoke with were so keen on making an example of everyone involved…. Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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It is not important. I am merely saying I sat next to a well known hunter from Reno, at the SCI well coming dinner, who told me blow for blow how he hunted, and killed this Elephant. How it got messed up and how the PH was arrested. Unless he had a fantastic imagination I believe he told the truth as he dropped names and places that I know really well. I saw tusks in Lichinga at the Governors office, that they said was from that bull, and I believe they were over 100lbs, but it could have been a separate Ellie. Also, when I got there in April 2010 there was a lot of talk about that bull being killed among the locals. As I said, not important. Which ever the case might be, it was a helluva bull. That area really has some great genes, but tragically it is all spiraling down the dark hole now....... Charl van Rooyen Owner Infinito Travel Group www.infinito-safaris.com charl@infinito-safaris.com Cell: +27 78 444 7661 Tel: +27 13 262 4077 Fax:+27 13 262 3845 Hereford Street 28A Groblersdal 0470 Limpopo R.S.A. "For the Infinite adventure" Plains Game Dangerous Game Bucket List Specialists Wing-Shooting In House Taxidermy Studio In House Dip and Pack Facility In House Shipping Service Non-Hunting Tours and Safaris Flight bookings "I promise every hunter visiting us our personal attention from the moment we meet you, until your trophies hang on your wall. Our all inclusive service chain means you work with one person (me) taking responsibility during the whole process. Affordable and reputable Hunting Safaris is our game! With a our all inclusive door to door service, who else do you want to have fun with?" South Africa Tanzania Uganda | |||
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Just revisiting this neat thread that ManuelM posted. Larry, in rereading your post, I was reminded of a photo in a book of two 150 lber's that were poached in the Selous in the late 60's -71. Obviously I don't know if the tracker was from this area or if they could be the same tusks. If someone wants to post the photo, just pm me your email address and I will send the photo to you. In the late 70's - late 80's, Safari Club Magazine would have outfitter ads showing 5-8 100 lber's taken each year in the Selous. Wish I still had the old Safari Club Magazines to try and re look up some of those old adds. | |||
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I believe one was taken 2 years ago in Zambia that was over 100 lbs. Good Hunting, Tim Herald Worldwide Trophy Adventures tim@trophyadventures.com | |||
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Those photos have circulated around too. I heard that "officially", the ivory weighed 79 lbs. to avoid publicity. Also heard that unofficially it was 100, but don't know for sure. It is tough to tell from the angle of the photos, but it could certainly be 100 lbs. Perhaps someone here knows for sure. | |||
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It's pronounced "Teeny". His first name is Martinus. He's also just about a meter broad across the shoulders and probably played Prop on his rugby team. He's not tall but he's wide and looks like he was carved out of a single piece of granite. If he didn't always have a smile on his face, people would walk very gingerly around him. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Zambia ele was 106x103. I know both hunter and Ph. I am not throwing out names, but it was a solid hundred pounder. Good Hunting, Tim Herald Worldwide Trophy Adventures tim@trophyadventures.com | |||
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Thanks for the clarification. It was certainly a majestic bull. | |||
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yes, Nungo south of Nyassa Reserve with PH Peter wood | |||
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I recommend reading Tony Sanchez Arinos book Africas Greatest Tuskers...incredible what came out of Africa during the 70s and early 80s, particularly from CAR.. | |||
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I’ve seen the reproductions in Peter’s home. I could swear he said one was 100-plus. Will J. Parks, III | |||
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Safari 2: Yes, Grant told me a client took a huge 1-tusker that went over 100. On his website, in the 2013 gallery, there's a big 1-tusker and I believe that's it. www.mashambanzousafaris.com if someone wants to see it. | |||
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I Was in the Luangwa in Zambia last year and saw the skull of the 100lber in camp,it dwarfed all of the other skulls. Jason Stone has had lots of others around the 80-90lb mark lets make a plan | |||
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Ricky you are right. Stone has pulled a bunch of big bulls out of Zambia in the past few years. I book a lot of his hunts and the results have been great. He killed a very nice bull today with my partner’s dad in Zim. I have a Zambia ele hunter with him again in October. I am hunting with him in Sept but sadly not for a trophy bull. His bull prices in Zambia are excellent considering his success and average trophy size. Good Hunting, Tim Herald Worldwide Trophy Adventures tim@trophyadventures.com | |||
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Indeed, but dwindling fast; they don't hit 100lbs between one week and the next especially when you consider the 90s/80s/70s are getting hammered as well. | |||
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Apparently elephant bulls towards the ending years of their life have a system wherein most of the protein goes to the tusks and not the body, and the tusks grow large and quickly as the body deflates, therefore these monster bulls keep showing up from time to time or so Ive been told and it must be true, otherwise they would not be showing up every year or two..Discussions over the years with old PHs and a few biologist is where I got this information, mostly around campfires in the evening, interesting conversations and I have no reason not to believe it but its not a scientific study by me, but my own observations tend to support it.??????? Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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100 lbs taken this year in Plumtree | |||
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