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When packing your double rifle, do you break it down or pack it assembled? Even though I have a Tuffpack, I have read stories of damage to rifles in transit.
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Posts: 10515 | Location: Jacksonville, Florida | Registered: 09 January 2004Reply With Quote
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I keep mine together, use a padded gun slip and put it in the tuff-pack. Never had any problems.


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Peter,

I use a Tuffpak and have always transported my double assembled in a good soft case.

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Posts: 1144 | Location: Green Country Oklahoma | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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I packed mine inside of a regular soft gun case in my Tuffpak along with 2 other rifles packed the same way. Each gun was fully assembled while being snug, safe, and secure.
 
Posts: 1445 | Location: Bronwood, GA | Registered: 10 June 2003Reply With Quote
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I always travel taken down. I use a double sided case that is only 32" long and can pack a rifle taken down in each side. This then goes into an athletic bag and just doesn't look like a gun at all. Thus far with about 8 trips under the belt packed like this I've had zero trouble, and in fact the case always comes through as regular baggage, and not in the gun lines.
 
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If you break it down and have a small enough case you can just put it in your regular bag which I feel would greatly reduce any chance of damage.
 
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If you break it down and have a small enough case you can just put it in your regular bag which I feel would greatly reduce any chance of damage.


Airline rules require that all firearms be packed in a hard sided case.

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A hard breakdown case inside a duffle is my choice. Legal, discrete and light. Not to compare with the TuffPack, which is a superb case. But compared to a regular (long) guncase, the short length of a breakdown case reduces the chances of breakage by leverage.
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I have used a take down case for my double rifles on past trips.

I wrap the barrel in a towel and stuff that into the barrel slot of the case. I wrap the forend stock in a washcloth and the stock and receiver in a gun sock and stuff those separately into the stock slots of the take down case.

The take down case goes into my Tuff Pak with clothing between the case and the side of the Tuff Pak. I place 1" foam rubber pads on the top and bottom of the Tuff Pak for extra shock absorbers.

The take down case then has boots between it and the bottom of the Tuff Pak and my light jacket and raingear stuffed between the top of the take down case and the top of the Tuff Pak.

I have never had a problem with the rifles being damaged although the outside of the Tuff Pak shows signs of pretty rough treatment.


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A hard breakdown case inside a duffle is my choice. Legal, discrete and light. Not to compare with the TuffPack, which is a superb case. But compared to a regular (long) guncase, the short length of a breakdown case reduces the chances of breakage by leverage.
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Leverage? Do you have any idea how much "leverage" it would take to bow a hard sided (eg; aluminum) gun case?
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Posts: 816 | Location: Llano, CA Mojave Desert | Registered: 30 April 2005Reply With Quote
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Palmer, what is the take down case that your able to fit into a tuffpack?
 
Posts: 470 | Location: SYRACUSE, UT, USA | Registered: 13 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Kino,
My take down case is from Cabelas. It is a take down case called Cabelas canvas take down case.

They refer to it as a shotgun case but I use it for double rifles. It fits my Searcy 470 or my Jeffrey 450/400 equally well and slides right in the Tuff Pak such that you can easily pull it out for inspection.

Usually I only have to pull the barrel out so they can see the caliber and serial number.

This the link to it:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/hor...=cat20772&hasJS=true

It is a knock off of a Boyt style case that is made from 22oz. canvas duck fabric with 40 oz. of quilted cotton batting.

The stitching and fittings have held up quite well. They have leather reinforcing on the end and the strap.


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Ah.. thanks, I had the impression that it was some type of hard case.
 
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Leverage? Do you have any idea how much "leverage" it would take to bow a hard sided (eg; aluminum) gun case?
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Yes. It depends on your route. There was only few years ago an airport where reportedly the gun case, supported one side a few inches above ground, were overrun with a fork-lift truck. obvious an action of anti-hunters.
 
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Leverage? Do you have any idea how much "leverage" it would take to bow a hard sided (eg; aluminum) gun case?
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Yes. It depends on your route. There was only few years ago an airport where reportedly the gun case, supported one side a few inches above ground, were overrun with a fork-lift truck. obvious an action of anti-hunters.


I was looking out of the window at the King Salmon, Alaska, airport a few years ago when I saw a forklift run over one of my hunting partner's aluminum gun cases. I don't know how much "leverage" it takes to bend one, but I know how much it took to do it that day. I don't think the guy driving the forklift was an anti-hunter, just an idiot. Baggage handling is a transitory job, it's for the guys who can't get hired at Wal-mart.
 
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I pack it fully assembled in a soft gun case inside my Tuffpak as many of the others have hereinbefore stated.
 
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I have never traveled to Africa so I have no advice. I have traveled extensively in the US with breakdown shotguns in a John Hall case, which is a hard sided lockable plastic case. That goes into a heavy cardboard box and is well taped closed. It's approx 34" long x8"x8" and looks nothing like a guncase. I have never had a problem. I have traveled with friends who have owned the long aluminum hard sided cases who have experienced damage. I think if it looks like a gun case it gets targeted for rough and sometimes excessive abusive treatment.


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I have travelled with my double in a Tuffpak, but I will not do so again. A Tuffpak does not protect a rifle as well as a Starlight or Pelican case, and I am not going to risk my double in a Tuffpak any more.
 
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[ I don't know how much "leverage" it takes to bend one, but I know how much it took to do it that day. .

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Reminds me of Ron White's (Blue Collar Comedy Tour) story about being thrown out of a NY bar by 6 bouncers: "I don't know how many bouncers it would've took to whoop my butt, but I know how many they were gonna use!" lol
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I used a Tuff-Pak on my trip to Zim 2004. I took 2 doubles and a 44 revolver. I wanted to have soft cases when hunting, but I much prefer to travel with the doubles broken down. The weakest link in most rifles is the pistol grip area of the stock. I think a double cdan take a pretty good knock inside a good padded case if broken down. So I bought 2 soft cases [Boyt] that were way to long for my rfles, put the rifles in the cases broken down with the bbl in the front of the case and the stock ikn the back. Fore ends on the bbls. Then I folded the cases and tied them in the folded position, put them in the Tuff-Pak with clothes ammo etc. Worked like a charm. Guns broken down for travel, soft case for use in the Safari Car.
I will use the same method in March.


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N E 450 No2,
Your idea is great.

Having a long case that can hold the gun in the gun rack but when folded works like a take down case is the best idea I have heard for a double rifle user.


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Into my heart on air that kills
From yon far country blows:
What are those blue remembered hills,
What spires, what farms are those?
That is the land of lost content,
I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went
And cannot come again.

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Yes, this sounds like a good method to me also.

But, is it not cumbersome when rifles are checked during travel?
 
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The rifles [and revolver] were only checked twice. On the way into SA and on the way into Zim.
They never checkedmy ammoat all. I had ammi in the TP and in my checked duffel.
I wouldhaveused Boyt take down cases and taken long cases, but all that weighed too much.
I do not mind the slight additional trouble for the peace of mind it gave me. It is very hard to break the stock of a double when it is taken down. When put together any hard drop might over stress the pistol grip area.


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