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I know this is not new information that cape buff are available to shoot in the US. I was surprised however to find one available even here in Ohio. This seems to indicate there are more out there than we ever thought. Whats next? Now you guys can practice and dont have to use plywood cutouts anymore! LOL! Starting Date: 01/01/07 Completion Date: LIGHTING FAST Event Name: CAPE BUFFALO Contact Info: Dannie @ 740-596-4711 Event Description: THIS IS OUR FIRST EVER HERE AT THE RANCH AND WHAT A TROPHY!! THIS IS A BIG CAPE BUFFALO COW WEIGHING OVER 1400 WITH GREAT HORNS, GOOD HIDE AND OH MY WHAT AN ATITUDE!! MOST OF YOU HAVE ASKED BEFORE AND I TOLD YOU THEY WEREN'T AVAILABLE, WELL THIS ONE IS!! I MAY NEVER HAVE ANOTHER ONE AND HERE'S YOUR CHANCE TO GET ONE IN THE UNITED STATES AT A SAVINGS OF OVER 50% AND NO 20 HOUR PLANE TRIP. ONLY ONE AVAILABLE AND I PROMISE YOU IT WON'T LAST NO TIME AT $2250.00 Happiness is a warm gun | ||
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Surely, the price quoted is a typo. A buffalo hunt for $2250.00? In Ohio? Hard to believe. Better check the price again. Or is that for shooting the plywood cut-out? | |||
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Imagine, shooting a buff cow, belly deep in a snow bank. Once in a lifetime event.
Be he will not get another one. Keith IGNORE YOUR RIGHTS AND THEY'LL GO AWAY!!! ------------------------------------ We Band of Bubbas & STC Hunting Club, The Whomper Club | |||
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Somebody had a breeder that needed culled Im sure. I imagine it came from one of the livestock auctions in Texas. Most likely it was not breeding or capable. That or there is something else wrong with it that they didnt want in the gene pool. I dont know if he will get another one or not time will tell. The fact that there is even one surprises me even if it is a cow. Happiness is a warm gun | |||
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For one reason it isn't a "hunt". No one could honestly call that hunting. | |||
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Hunt??? I think he uses that word very very lightley, then again someone will buy it and I expect,in few months time will be a case of " hey guess what folks we got another 1 in a lifetime chance " | |||
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Is this the same Mike Smith who is a taxidermist in Northfield, Ohio? | |||
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Whether this is true or not, What kind of moron would call that sport? "shoot quick but take your time" | |||
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How thick is the jess and nasty the tetsee flies in Ohio? Can't imagine the "hunter" of this cow will have much education in the real experience. | |||
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Hey c'mon guys. Over on the Handgun Hunting forum Gentleman Jack posted getting his 6x6 elk with a handgun. After the congratulations were over, it turned it he took his elk in Ohio. He, and the moderator MS Hitman, got very upset when someone had the temerity to suggest that perhaps this wasn't "hunting". Gentleman Jack has ( I believe) modified his posts since they were origionally posted, so it is hard to get the original flavor, but the moderator basically said, if it is hard to see the animal due to thick bush, then it is hunting. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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I guess it would be no different than "hunting" American Bison most places in this country. A least you would get the meat?  Lance Lance Larson Studio lancelarsonstudio.com | |||
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Canned Buffalo... Be sure to chose the right one and use softs to avoid wounding another buff of that herd... Sigh... | |||
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I'd shoot a female Cape buffalo for bait or meat, but it isn't a trophy in Africa, let alone Ohio. George  | |||
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Riodot, interesting comment. Did you see the brouhaha over in Classified when Ray Atkinson posted a Bison hunt as a "fair chase" hunt on a fenced farm. I really think the issue should be discussed. As another poster said: Is it hunting when you shoot bear over bait or put out corn for deer, or shoot animals at a water hole? Certainly difficult to draw a clear distinction. In addition, such practices may be OK in the States, but not OK in Africa. Peter. Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong; | |||
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Bo Rich, No I am not a taxidermist. No artistic talent here other than to appreciate it. I have to admit not much different than shooting bison or any other bovine in a rach type situation in my opinion. If I wanted to put meat in the freezer and get away for a day it might prove interesting. No different than any other exotic in that regard. Me, Im holding out for the tuskless ele's!  Happiness is a warm gun | |||
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Of course, I agree with everyone who questions what kind of a "hunt" this is - but I also have another concern. I'm amazed that the US Department of Agriculture allowed a live Cape buff into the country. Back in 1992 right before I was headed to Africa (in '93) for a Cape buff hunt, I wanted to view one in our local NYC zoo, the Bronx Zoo - a very large zoo - and learned that it had none. In fact, I couldn't learn of any zoo in the eastern US that had one (I didn't bother to check in the West, of course for the obvious travel reasons) although I heard that a "Park" in Florida had one. The reason not was (I was told) was because of disease. (My own buff on arrival in NY was waved through by all applicable government agencies {according to what my broker, Flora & Fauna, told me} -except the USDA -which insisted on having the crate opened and the head checked for spraying and dipping. So I guess times have changed -although I should think that Western ranchers should worry about relaxation of the rules. (As I understand it, rinderpest is devastating for domestic cattle) | |||
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I suspect the animal's availablity is linked to the "OH MY WHAT AN ATITUDE!!" remark.  | |||
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I saw some cape buffalo at a "safari park" near San Antonio last year. ______________________ I don't shoot elk at 600 yards for the same reasons I don't shoot ducks on the water, or turkeys from their roosts. If this confuses you then you're not welcome in my hunting camp. | |||
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a scene repeated daily in south africa ! | |||
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A cape buffalo cow, even in the jesse of Africa, for anything other than meat, or bait is simply not my cup of tea, and in my experience the average LARGE FARM in Ohio is no larger that 400, or 500 acres total, and if it is completely filled with tight thorn and vine, it isn't large enough for me! That being said that opinion holds as long as those are the actually the conditions there for this cow! However, I think there is a large amount of speaking from a possition of ignorance here. Nobody here knows where this buffalo came from, or how wild, or the size, or terrain of the farm, or how long this cow has been there. Has she been hand fed, or generally handled around people? I find these wide brush painting of things you have not seen, or know absolutely nothing about, as a CANNED HUNT, is,IMO, pontificating at best, and down right ignorant in most cases. Probably half of the people here would, if offered, spend ten days on a game ranch in RSA,and enjoy the hell out of it. Gentlemen, there is a large difference between an open oat field of 500 acres, and a tame animal, and a 5000, to 100,000 acres of real habitat, with animals that are not pets but as wild as they are any place in the world, with nothing more than a perimeter fence that would be required by law with any stock like a cape buffalo. I'm not saying anyone here is wrong, but what I am saying is, not one of the posters here knows the particulars of this thing, but still feed the Animal Rights idiots who think all hunting is CANNED, and will use these discussions to hurt us all, by posting on their web-sites, something like: "SEE........EVEN the hunters admit a fence is all that is required to make any hunt, and canned hunt!" And in some case that is the mind set of some hunters, who simply don't know any better. This discussion is a little like buying advertizeing time for PETA, IMO!  ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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Hunting and killing are not synonomous. I have been on wonderful hunt all over the globe and not killed anything and have also killed way too many things in situations I wouldn't classify as hunting . Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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Now girls, lets not get our panties in a wad here. Here is finally a cape buff hunt for a 45/70 shooter.........................JJ " venator ferae bestiae et aquae vitae " | |||
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While we have not had any snow this year and the day temps are in the 60's-- it ain't Africa. you can get in areas thick cover of grapevines and brush-- again, it ain't Africa. With a 740 area code, this place is located in the central part of the state outside of the Columbus area (614. If I was to guess and it is only a guess, there is an outfit along interstate 70 outside of licking county that has some land high fenced and sell outrageous canned hunts. You can shoot a nice 200+ B & C whitetail at the farm for $12,000.00. The will show you photos of it before you book. not my idea of a hunt or fair chase.  | |||
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I cant wait to go into the wilds of "Ohio" the hunt one of the big 5 and get that experinece that I had in Tanzania last year. What a thrill it must be to hunt someting so big ans strong in the wilds of "ohio". Tracking it through the mud and grasslands of "ohio" must be as difficult as any hunt in the world. ARE YOU "F" KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!! Ray Matthews Matthews Outdoor Adventures 2808 Bainbridge Trail Mansfield, Texas 76063 | |||
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I'm surprised there hasn't yet appeared any comments on this thread about how "it is upon everyone's own judgement how you want to hunt" and " it is not anyone else's business to tell anyone what is appropriate way to hunt", which basically express the opinion that such thing as ethics doesn't exist, or that ethics doesn't concern animals. They normally should have appeared by now. Or is it possible that people are becoming reasonable after all?  | |||
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I believe most of you are carnivores. The ONLY thing that makes you resent "canned" anything is that the taker of said canned animal is getting or trying to get a degree of glory from a hunt we don't perceive as being as difficult as it should be. It's kind of like how we would resent a cheater that passed an exam that we also took and passed but with a better score. I don't like canned hunting either but recognize the issue for what it is. It is not a be fair to the animal thing but a matter of integrity. | |||
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I'm trying to dream up the story I'd tell when a visitor to my home asked about "that cape buffalo" mount up there..... On second thought one might just hang a bassereno on it's mouth and say nothing. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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Hopefully they have a gate to the fenced area! The only easy day is yesterday! | |||
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Ironic isn't it.  | |||
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Well said, MAC!  SCI Life Member DSC Life Member | |||
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Ok then I will say it even though I am the one originally poking fun at this. It is up to each individual to decide for themselves. I do agree with that. You can not determine what is correct for someone else only yourself. Having said that, you can paint stripes on a donkey but that dosnt make it a zebra. If someone is happy with calling it that it is ok with me but it is what it is. Why prentend otherwise? People let their egos get in the way all too often and suddenly things are portrayed as something they are not. This is true if it is America, Africa or whereever. As long as you are honest about what it is I am somewhat ok with it even if it is not what I would do. Now I would still question it but who am I to judge someone else? If they are happy with a "shoot" so be it but dont tell us it is a trophy hunt. It is a shoot pure and simple. Get out for a day, put some meat in the freezer, ok, but hardly a trophy hunt. I edited this post after rereading it to take things that could be construed as antihunting out. It in no way means anything else. Happiness is a warm gun | |||
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Contrived hunts, like contrived sex, are obviously in demand and may be the best some folks get. But they are not the same as the real thing. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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Well said Phil. Definitely looses something in the translation. Happiness is a warm gun | |||
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