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Hi Guys,

Quick question, has anybody hunted with Zimbabwean PH Paul Wellock ? If so any information / thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in Adavance
 
Posts: 119 | Location: Sydney, Australia | Registered: 11 December 2008Reply With Quote
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I hunted with him in 1998 when he was an apprentice. Very pleasant and fun guy to be in the field with.

He fetched my PAC crocodile out of the pond for me and had to take it on faith that it was dead...so he has got balls.

Don't know anything about his current operation though.

If you decide to go let me know would like to send a note along with you.


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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10165 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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I met Paul last year, he is currently on a restricted license, seems like a likable fellow

Mart


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Posts: 639 | Location: Zimbabwe | Registered: 26 January 2009Reply With Quote
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Paul has a , B restriction which means he can guide on Buffalo leopard and plains game
 
Posts: 49 | Location: ZIMBABWE | Registered: 17 February 2009Reply With Quote
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Paul was the PH on my 2005 hunt with Brooklands at Msaise Ranch in the Save. In 2007, he met me and my friend in Vic Falls and showed us around for a day or so, on his own , before we went on to Matetsi with another outfitter.

Both Paul and his wife Linda are some of the greatest people I've ever met. Courteous to a fault, and very easy to get along with.

As a PH, he led a greatly successful buff/sable/plains game hunt for me and worked hard. I would hunt with him again in a heartbeat!

Dennis
 
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Originally posted by ross j:
Paul has a , B restriction which means he can guide on Buffalo leopard and plains game

I would assume this restriction only applies in Zim?
 
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Hi Again,

Thank you for the feedback, much appreciated.

Mike,

If all works out, happy to take the note with me.
 
Posts: 119 | Location: Sydney, Australia | Registered: 11 December 2008Reply With Quote
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The restriction only applies to Zim!


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Posts: 639 | Location: Zimbabwe | Registered: 26 January 2009Reply With Quote
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Martin for what reason would a guy who has was an appy in 1998 be on a restricted licence?
 
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I guess he failed his full license, was given a restriction and has never been back to the proficiency to upgrade as per parks law!


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Posts: 639 | Location: Zimbabwe | Registered: 26 January 2009Reply With Quote
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So, can a PH stay on a restricted forever?
 
Posts: 179 | Location: South of Anchorage | Registered: 21 January 2012Reply With Quote
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Yes, he can stay on a restricted if he feels that is what he wants to do, or he can go back anytime and try and get it lifted.


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Posts: 639 | Location: Zimbabwe | Registered: 26 January 2009Reply With Quote
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Hmmmmm, seems to me there should be a limit or some more incentive to upgrade. Thanks Martin.
 
Posts: 179 | Location: South of Anchorage | Registered: 21 January 2012Reply With Quote
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I met Paul on one of my Zim Safaris in the SAVE.
He was in the same camp I wa s in for several days.

He seemed like nice guy that would be fun to hunt with.

He was charged by an elephant while I was there and he did "sort it out".


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Posts: 16134 | Location: Texas | Registered: 06 April 2002Reply With Quote
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Is it not possible that he never decided to test for his full license?


Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10165 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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Mike

Some Guys are happy just hunting Buff Leopard and decide to stay with the restriction , they don't have to go any further if they do not want to ..

Ross
 
Posts: 49 | Location: ZIMBABWE | Registered: 17 February 2009Reply With Quote
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So if you are licensed for leopard why not lion?

I can sort of see why not elephant, but lion?


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Posts: 3035 | Location: Tanzania - The Land of Plenty | Registered: 19 September 2003Reply With Quote
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Ross,

Thanks for the response.

You are kind of making my point.

Mr. Pieters seems to be implying the Mr. Wellock had some type of shortcoming with his exam and I was curious if Mr. Pieters new that for a fact or was just speculating. If he is just speculating...why would he do that?


Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike , as Ross said!

Fact: I did not examine Paul and therefore cannot comment.
As for why he has not returned to the practical for an upgrade, perhaps ask him.
As for speculation, you can twist my words whichever way pleases you, I never implied anything, just said I had met him and he was " a likable fellow"

Mart


martinpieterssafaris@gmail.com
www.martinpieterssafaris.com

" hunt as if it's your last one you'll ever be on"
 
Posts: 639 | Location: Zimbabwe | Registered: 26 January 2009Reply With Quote
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Martin,

I am not twisting your words at all.

Here is what you said:

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I guess he failed his full license, was given a restriction and has never been back to the proficiency to upgrade as per parks law!


Pretty clear that you are speculating in a negative manner about Paul's exam performance and now it seems clear that there is no basis for that comment. Unless you are saying there is no such thing as taking the exam for everything but lion and elephant which if that is the case then please advise.


Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Mike - If he got a restricted license- then that is what he got at the exam. I know several very good PH's who have never bothered to get a B retriction lifted. They got on with earning a living (which is easy to do with a B restriction) and cannot justify the expense of comming back on the exam - many of them have also moved further afield.

My folk, particularly photographic guides hold a learners license and never find the need (or the money) to come on the exam.

You can hunt leopard on a 'c' restricted license- cannot hunt buff, lion or ele. This was fine for many farmers back before the land invasions- they ran plainsgaim hunts and the odd leopard hunt on their own farms and had no need of anything more.

I was on the 98 exam But Lionel Retynolds was chief examiner and paul was not in my group and I only have notes on my groop back then so no idea what mistakes he made.

In 15 years of hunting you learn alot- No doubt he would find the eam a brease now but work/family/money commitments have not encouraged him to do so.
 
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Mike

I think you are reading my post wrong, I never intended to be negative about Paul, as stated, I met him once in Bulawayo and he seemed like a likable fellow! As far as the exams go, he can remain on a restricted license, or he can go back to the exam as many times as he likes in order to get his full license, it is HIS choice.

Again, I was not present during Paul's exam, so I cannot comment on his performance then, or as a hunter now.


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