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Wolfgar,



First, your comments belong on the political forum. Second, you haven't been paying attention to the Bush PR machine (also known as CNN). . . the US is not waging a war on Islam. YAWN! As an aside, I think you and fundamentalist muslims have a lot in common . . . you both manage to damn an entire culture for the extreme actions of a few.



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Cairo, really, John. If you can avoid it, do. At least that's my prejudice about Northern Africa. I've been to Sudan and inquired into hunting...the Ibex in the mountains around the Red Sea were the only sensible thing I could come up with, though at US$12,000, not so sensible. Thig pigs in Algeria used to be good, and the gold jackals. Tunesia still holds the pigs, and they are accessible. Somehow Egypt doesn't strike me as a hunting country.

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You say a long term posting ...

Well then why restrict yourself to Egypt, you are on the African continent so it is just a hop skip and a jump by air to Tanzania CAR Zambia & some of the western Africa locations, but they are having some political strif in the west so you need to maybe be a bit wary etc, why waste your time with small beer in Egypt when you have Africa at your fingertips ?

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Hi Frans,

It is Norhtern Africa so I really wasn't expecting great things as far as hunting opportunities but was hoping for perhaps some nearby Ibex hunting or Blacktailed Gazelle. I think Peter might be on to something as far as Egypts proximity to some other possible destinations. The position is a quite interesting proposition. My salary would be paid half in Egyptian pounds and half in US dollars with my housing also paid. Might be nice to be so close to some nice destinations while being paid in a hard currency. Have to see if I get the offer I suppose. How have you been? How did your season turn out?

Peter,

I think you may be right. I have been wanting to hunt boar in Tunisia for a while now and it would be nice to be so close to some other areas I have wanted to hunt (Burkina Faso for example). I guess I was hoping that Egypt also had some little explored opportunities.

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I spent several weeks in Cairo 20 years ago, staying in the home of my Kuwaiti employers at the time.

Unless it has changed dramatically it is one of the nastiest cities in the world.

I was living in Sao Paulo, Brazil then, another horror story of urban excess, and despite it's many shortcomings, Cairo made Sao Paulo look like Paradise!

Cairo is hotter than the hinges of hell, dirty, dusty, smelly, run-down, over-crowded, unbelievable traffic, lousy drivers, people crapping and pissing on the sidewalks; I could go on, but you get the picture!

Here is the ideal one day itinerary for a visit to Cairo.

Go to the Museum of Antiquities and buy a King Tut T-shirt.

Visit Giza and have your picture taken on a camel with the Sphinx and the pyramids in the background.

Have dinner at the rooftop restaurant in the Nile Hilton and watch the belly dancers.

Then head straight for the airport and get the hell out of there.

I wouldn't live there for a million bucks a year!
 
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I spent several weeks in Cairo 20 years ago, staying in the home of my Kuwaiti employers at the time.

Unless it has changed dramatically it is one of the nastiest cities in the world.

I was living in Sao Paulo, Brazil then, another horror story of urban excess, and despite it's many shortcomings, Cairo made Sao Paulo look like Paradise!

Cairo is hotter than the hinges of hell, dirty, dusty, smelly, run-down, over-crowded, unbelievable traffic, lousy drivers, people crapping and pissing on the sidewalks; I could go on, but you get the picture!

Here is the ideal one day itinerary for a visit to Cairo.

Go to the Museum of Antiquities and buy a King Tut T-shirt.

Visit Giza and have your picture taken on a camel with the Sphinx and the pyramids in the background.

Have dinner at the rooftop restaurant in the Nile Hilton and watch the belly dancers.

Then head straight for the airport and get the hell out of there.

I wouldn't live there for a million bucks a year!




Mark

You ar ebeing a little tough aren't you?

I enjoyed looking out the wndows of my Pensione (Pensione Roma - very cheap, large coolish unconditioned rooms, a little dusty - this is the sahara after all!) and watching the donkey on top of the 4 story building opposite. The building I think was supposed to be 8 stories but they just stopped at 4 (if it doesn't rain much why worry about a roof!

The touts along the street are spectacularly insistent and when one lot leaves off the next begin. Learn to say NO! NO! NO! in a dozen languages. It might help.

But many of them are very crafty and will work out your nationality well before they approach you. They will start to speak English, German, French, Italian to you and they will 99% of the time be correct on your native language. Use tricks to confuse them. I put an Iberia Airlines plastic luggage tag on my daypack and they used to approach me speaking Spanish.

I think I got diarhorrea only 3 or 4 times in Cairo with the worst being a Norwegian foods and culture promotional dinner at the very Cairo Hilton you mention!

I could spend a week at the Cairo Museum of Antiquities. "Buy a T-shirt"!!!!!

But you're right, there is an overload period in such a place when you just have to get OUT.



JTG might blend in if he wears a caftan.
 
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Saida Isa'ak!? I lived in Egypt the year prior to and just prior to the 6-day war ('66-'67). The delta offers fabulous duck hunting. I remember one friend returning from a hunt and I'd never seen so many ducks shot in one day! You will greatly enhance your experience there by learning some Arabic. If you did o.k. with high school Spanish you won't have any problem.
 
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After reading some of the latest posts one wonders if an extended trip to MARS might be more comforting, going by the pics of the planet it seems rather tranquil, if it had a couple of Pyramids one might pass it off for the desert ...



Dont worry about the detractors, remember all of Africa lying beneath you and it will make them green with envy once you start telling about the hunting trips you plan on taking once there in that so called hell hole ...



I guess Americans are too spoilt by and large and when going to some of these exotic places in Africa it can be somewhat of a culture shock and rather daunting, whereas us from the dark continent just look up at the sky and thank god for another boring boring sunny hot day with a nice ice cold sundowner and evening braai, not a habachi on some damn NY apartment building balcony looking down on the NY traffic



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Peter,

That, of course, is the primary attraction . . . being in Africa and relatively close to other destinations in the central and southern part of the continent. The interview I had with the two present faculty members was quite interesting. They were much less concerned with my academic qualifications and publication record than my ability to "fit into" the culture. I think the three of us ditching the initial interview locale for a coffee house and then fighting over the bill (like typical mediterraneans) two hours later convinced them that I would fit in just fine. LOL!

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John,

Two questions:
1) as a non-resident alien, can you legally import and possess a rifle in Egypt?
2) are they will to pay at least the USD portion of your salary into an account outside Egypt?

George
 
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The only positive thing I can see about that John is being close to my (our) beloved Crete!
 
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John, how long would it take to drive from Cairo to Victoria Falls?
 
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How much do you have to lead a Duck on the Nile with an AK-47? In full auto I hear they can do a decent imitation of a 12 ga.-Rob
 
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JohnTG

Dont worry about rifles if it becomes a problem to bring with you, if you visited us in Zambia we like most operators will have loan rifles to boot, that is the least of your worries.

Just find a good travel agent in Cairo and that will be all you need.

Hope all goes to plan, keep in touch as required

Peter
 
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Even with a short lead, tracers would help you to catch up before the magazine was empty, I would expect.
 
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