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Russ,

By two web belts and sew them togther end on end...it will be homede but functional...either that or you can wast your money on a fancy canvas thing with loops and leather trim.


Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10181 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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as little as possible, enough ammo on me to kill what ever I'm hunting and my ear plugs

in the truck more ammo and a few sweets and a couple energy bars and a camera.

anything else is a distraction to me.


sorry about the spelling,
I missed that class.
 
Posts: 1407 | Location: Beverly Hills Ca 90210<---finally :) | Registered: 04 November 2001Reply With Quote
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No wonder the economy has rebounded! You guys like your kit!

There was mention of a head net. Any need for one in Zim., come June?

JW

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Jeff,

It may depend on the part of the country your in buy I have never had a bug problen in June in Zim...been here twice at that time of year.


Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10181 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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There was mention of a head net. Any need for one in Zim., come June?


I hunted in the Zambezi Valley of ZIM in June of 2003. YES, you will want a headnet if you hunt in the Zambezi Valley (don't know about other parts of the country). Get one you can stuff in your pocket as you won't need it while walking. Mopane flies are quite annoying. Take several and give some to the trackers (and PH if he wants one).

Sources for headnet.

Campmor

Sportsmansguide

Regards,

Terry



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Don't forget to carry your contract in your pocket at all times. Smiler


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Don't forget to carry your contract in your pocket at all times. Smiler


You will also need your satellite telephone so you can call Bill Stewart if you have any questions about shot placement on elephant. Big Grin

Regards,

Terry



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Posts: 5338 | Location: A Texan in the Missouri Ozarks | Registered: 02 February 2001Reply With Quote
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I agree with Jeff Wemmer. Dang! Obviously to each his own, but some of those lists I couldn't carry all in a back pack!!
smokes & lighter in my shirt pocket
pocket knife in my britches
spare shells on the buttstock
binos around my neck
camera & water bottle in a "tourista" type butt pack

mike


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Originally posted by Pete E:
Russ,

Good to see you posting again bud!

What caliber do you need an ammo carrier for??

Unless Ray chimes in here, drop him a PM with regards the ammo carrier...I seem to recall he modified one that was available from Cabelas to make a decent "culling belt"...

Regards,

Pete


Hi, Pete, and hi, Mike!

Hadn't thought about sewing a couple of web belts together, but I guess it'd work.

Pete, I'm just taking my .416 Remington Magnum. I was looking at what Cabela's has, in fact, just yesterday.

I was thinking about having Wolf Ears Equipment make something for me. I've used him many times before for my cowboy shooting and BPCR needs. Still up in the air. Just figured I'd treat myself to something like this. Maybe some of those Russell MBOGO booties, too. Cool

Russ


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Posts: 2982 | Location: Silvis, IL | Registered: 12 May 2001Reply With Quote
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Russ,

That Wolf equipment looks very good quality indeed, I am sure they would make what ever you wanted to a very high standard..

I suppose you need to decide whether your going for a "culling belt" or one or more bullet wallets, either for your belt or pocket..

As long as you don't turn up with two bandoliers of ammo crossed over your chest mexican style, either way will be fine!

Regards,

Pete
 
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As long as you don't turn up with two bandoliers of ammo crossed over your chest mexican style, either way will be fine!


Party pooper. Frowner

I think a belt might suit me better, I'll see about having the guy make me one.

(I really had my heart set on the crossed bandoliers, though.)

Russ


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(I really had my heart set on the crossed bandoliers, though.)

Russ


Linked or leather

Hog Killer


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From another thread .................

As far as velocity vs. penetration ics concerned... You can argue with Robertson or Will or Saeed or Craig or Ray or 500GRNS.

But you can't argue with Isaak Newton, because the old dead guy wins every time.

Newton's Third Law
"Whenever one body exerts a force on another, the second body always exerts on the first a force which is equal in measure but opposite in direction."

More commonly stated as " For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction"

When a bullet hit a given medium, whether bone or meat or phonebook or plywood or water, that medium hits back with as much force as that medium can, before it yeilds. In the case of thick armor plate. it can hit back with an equal and opposite force, and resist any penetration and the bullet yields first and destroys itself.

Viscous medium like muscle tissue will behave differently than bone. Consider water as a type of viscous medium. If ... etc


Guys, don't forget that essential piece of equipment, the pocket calculator.

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