A great buffalo

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14 January 2018, 22:58

Slider

I would be Honored to take him.

14 January 2018, 23:31

MacD37

He is a great old bull, and to some a shooter! However to me he has earned his retirement and should be left alone to live out his life in the bush! I would love to have seen him and got him on film for a day or two, and wish him another ten years with cool water, thick mud, and plenty of good graze! I WOULD NOT SHOOT HIM!

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15 January 2018, 00:27

BuffHunter63

A grand old bull no doubt. But a hunting trophy??

Different strokes I guess.

To me it is like beating an old man in a wheel chair in a fist fight. Not exactly at the top of his gamme, IMO.

My idea of the perfect buff trophy, is a heavy-bossed bull with about 50" of spread. Maybe 10 years old or so, but not so old, he is deaf and blind. LOL

JMO

BH63

15 January 2018, 01:08

A.Dahlgren

quote:
Originally posted by MacD37:
He is a great old bull, and to some a shooter! However to me he has earned his retirement and should be left alone to live out his life in the bush! I would love to have seen him and got him on film for a day or two, and wish him another ten years with cool water, thick mud, and plenty of good graze! I WOULD NOT SHOOT HIM!

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I would think this guy with no horns to defend himself with would end up as lion food quite fast.

Perfect animal to take IMO

15 January 2018, 01:25

Gundog 64

quote:
Originally posted by BuffHunter63:
A grand old bull no doubt. But a hunting trophy??

Different strokes I guess.

To me it is like beating an old man in a wheel chair in a fist fight. Not exactly at the top of his gamme, IMO.

My idea of the perfect buff trophy, is a heavy-bossed bull with about 50" of spread. Maybe 10 years old or so, but not so old, he is deaf and blind. LOL

JMO

BH63

This is exactly the type of bull I would love to hunt. I think with his age he would be smarter than most, and to me he has that "been there, done that" look. I would be proud to go 1 on 1 with a bull like that. Opinions do vary...and that is a good thing.

15 January 2018, 01:30

AB109

This is the type of bull I have been looking for all these years. A real trophy !

15 January 2018, 01:39

Antlers

quote:
Originally posted by BuffHunter63:
A grand old bull no doubt. But a hunting trophy??

Different strokes I guess.

To me it is like beating an old man in a wheel chair in a fist fight. Not exactly at the top of his gamme, IMO.

My idea of the perfect buff trophy, is a heavy-bossed bull with about 50" of spread. Maybe 10 years old or so, but not so old, he is deaf and blind. LOL

JMO

BH63

That's a trophy in my book!

15 January 2018, 02:16

Bill C

Fantastic old buffalo, and a great picture. 10 days searching and finding, or not, an old warrior such as this, would be a womderful hunt.

Do I sense a few of you gentlemen have a connection to this bull?

15 January 2018, 03:06

Brandon.Gleason

Absolutely a great bull. I'd not hesitate one moment to immortalize that on my wall.

15 January 2018, 03:59

LittleJoe

No interest for me in anyway but with a camera.

I don’t want to shoot any type of broken horned animal.

Just a personal preference.

15 January 2018, 05:12

shoulderman

In a heart beat, I would love to look at him everyday on my wall. An old warrior for sure

15 January 2018, 06:44

fulvio

quote:
I would think this guy with no horns to defend himself with would end up as lion food quite fast.

Anton,

He didn't lose his horns overnight and he seems to have survived the thrills and spills OK so far.

Funny how a lots of folks look upon this wizened old bull as a trophy when back in the days a PH would be frowned upon (to put it mildly) if he dared suggest him as a trophy.

15 January 2018, 06:53

LHeym500

A great buffalo is one that has done its breeding and was hunted hard on foot and allowed to beat the hunter.

This old man is that.

15 January 2018, 08:57

eagle27

Mmmmm yes a bit of a dilemma for sure, on one hand an old bull past it's prime that has somehow survived being predated by fellow African animals (only just by the look of his ears) and also by man. So in one hand a trophy that many wouldn't have the opportunity to take and on the other an old specimen to let live out his final days.

I've shot a few old animals in my life, one a 14 year old chamois whose horns had worn to 2" stubs polished to transparency enough to see the bone underneath. He was as scruffy as that buffalo looks but having escaped other hunters and the helicopter culling machines for all those years he was an interesting specimen to collect, as I think would be that buff.
I'm not a trophy hunter as such so would take that and leave the real trophies to those that appreciated them more than I would. He would make an interesting talking point.

Perhaps one could hire MS as PH who I'm sure could provoke some sort of charge from the old fella, as arthritic and decrepit as it maybe, as some sort of justification for a shot

15 January 2018, 10:09

fulvio

quote:
Perhaps one could hire MS as PH who I'm sure could provoke some sort of charge from the old fella, as arthritic and decrepit as it maybe, as some sort of justification for a shot Roll Eyes

Or bait, as has been the sorry end for many such old fellas.

15 January 2018, 19:26

Andrew McLaren

I would really like to spend a long cold night sitting by a fire and talk of the good old days with that old boy - naturally while we share a bottle of a very good single malt.On secont thoughts I also would not maid spending a slow afternoon talking to my grandson while every so often putting just a small piece of wood into the fire under the cast iron put. I will relate the experience of my hunt - and sip a cvery cold beer - but just until that old boy's tongue is nice and tender. Then I'll go check on the progress in the skinning shed, and again marvel at the wonders of life as a hunter.

I know that I'm daydreaming, but that old boy can only get me daydreaming. What, in my humble and minority opinion, a fantasic trophy!

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15 January 2018, 19:38

Saeed

This is the sort of bull that lives alone. Knows his home like the back of his hands.

And hides in the worst thicket one could possibly find.

He will charge at the slightest provocation, from very close.

I have shot quite a few of these.

15 January 2018, 19:59

fairgame

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
This is the sort of bull that lives alone. Knows his home like the back of his hands.

And hides in the worst thicket one could possibly find.

He will charge at the slightest provocation, from very close.

I have shot quite a few of these.

Good stuff.

15 January 2018, 20:05

fairgame

Nice old boy but what with the trophy fee being so high most look for something more complete in the head gear department.

16 January 2018, 03:15

AB109

I would pay extra for one of these !

Never seen one in all my hunting

16 January 2018, 03:38

Double00

It's as if you can sense his age in the look of his eye.

16 January 2018, 06:58

Cazador humilde

Dammit Dahlgren. Amazing picture as usual. I've been thinking about this type of bull. I saw a couple of them running together years ago in Zim. Now you're gonna make me go back and look for one. Terrific bull.

17 January 2018, 02:37

MARK H. YOUNG

Anton,

Great pic as usual. I'm torn on this one. I've killed a few buffalo but never a big one so I'm still looking but not hard. On the other hand I shot an ancient broken horned Harnessed bushbuck an huge broken horn Lesser kudu on purpose. Yeah! I'd probably shoot the old boy just because he's unique.

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17 January 2018, 04:41

Fjold

If he had one horn, he'd be perfect!

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18 January 2018, 01:23

BuffHunter63

Would a toothless old warthog be considered a trophy?

How about an old lion with few teeth and no mane?

How about a leopard that is blind and toothless, with big gobs of hair missing from his coat?

Or a skinny, old elephant with just nubs for ivory?

Like I said "different strokes, for different folks."

BH63

18 January 2018, 03:43

shootaway

quote:
Originally posted by BuffHunter63:
Would a toothless old warthog be considered a trophy?

How about an old lion with few teeth and no mane?

How about a leopard that is blind and toothless, with big gobs of hair missing from his coat?

Or a skinny, old elephant with just nubs for ivory?

Like I said "different strokes, for different folks."

BH63

When buff are plentiful and truly wild, the best is a an adult dagga boy bull with really nice, big horns-hard bossed.Second an old dagga with polished horns.Third is a very old dagga.

18 January 2018, 13:54

ozhunter

quote:
Originally posted by BuffHunter63:
Would a toothless old warthog be considered a trophy?

How about an old lion with few teeth and no mane?

How about a leopard that is blind and toothless, with big gobs of hair missing from his coat?

Or a skinny, old elephant with just nubs for ivory?

Like I said "different strokes, for different folks."

BH63

Absolutely!
Taken two buffalo simmilar to that one and a busted toothed, poor mained old Lion that are high on the list of my trophy hunting memorys