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i found this article in the mag African Outfiter. some good news indeed. not sure if i can post the article so i'll post the link. http://www.africanoutfitter.com/johannesburginternationalairport.php anticipation of fear is worse than fear itself | ||
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This is almost to good to be true. Awaiting reports from the first hunters to use the new firearms office. Arild Iversen. | |||
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It's sounds great! But I think the gun handling services will do their best to ensure their services are still needed! Robert Johnson | |||
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Being a cynic, lets hope for connecting flights when you do not enter the country, one can still check the firearms straight through! | |||
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I must say they stuck to their word so far....Any bad experiences since the change? I have not had any so far..... Charl van Rooyen Owner Infinito Travel Group www.infinito-safaris.com charl@infinito-safaris.com Cell: +27 78 444 7661 Tel: +27 13 262 4077 Fax:+27 13 262 3845 Hereford Street 28A Groblersdal 0470 Limpopo R.S.A. "For the Infinite adventure" Plains Game Dangerous Game Bucket List Specialists Wing-Shooting In House Taxidermy Studio In House Dip and Pack Facility In House Shipping Service Non-Hunting Tours and Safaris Flight bookings "I promise every hunter visiting us our personal attention from the moment we meet you, until your trophies hang on your wall. Our all inclusive service chain means you work with one person (me) taking responsibility during the whole process. Affordable and reputable Hunting Safaris is our game! With a our all inclusive door to door service, who else do you want to have fun with?" South Africa Tanzania Uganda | |||
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hopefully this will eliminate the "missing guns" as well. | |||
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Sounds good. | |||
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just to clarify something: the guys working at the SA police unit at johannesburg INTL airport ( name recently changed to Oliver Thambo Intl airport) are just normal police officers stationed there. they arent a contract or service type operation and therefore wont benefit or lose anything with regards to delays in firearm processing etc. its just a 9 to 5 job for them and they usually get rotated with other police officers. and when you travel to SA you should know before hand what fees to pay, anything "asked" extra, constitues bribing, and is a serious violation of the SA Police's ethics and they are combating it hard. so much so that officers found taking bribes are arrested immediately. i know most guys think its normal to butter a hand just to avoid hassles and think its the way to do things, but nothing can be further from the truth. if you are traveling to SA for a hunt or if anyone wants it i will supply you with a control room telephone number where you can speak to a senior official of the SA Police in case of problems. there is also a toll free number which you can use on any phone when in SA. after hours there must also be a senior police officer in charge and on call, so when problems are experienced he must be contacted and this can be done through the number listed below. numbers: ( available 24hours a day) +27112481034 +27112481000 10111 ( tollfree when in SA, the SA version of 911, on answering ask to speak to the control room supervisor) in SA the 1st 2 numbers will be dailed: 0112481034 and 0112481000. i hope this will help someone. also: as a south african im having problems following name changes so im sure it must be hell for overseas visitors: Johannesburg intl airport was previously known as Jan Smuts Intl airport. the name was recently changed again to Oliver Thambo Intl airport. anticipation of fear is worse than fear itself | |||
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I did not see that they have addressed another serious problem in the system. If you want to travel through RSA and stay over a few days prior to or after a hunt in another country, you do not have an invitation from an outfitter to hunt as you are passing through RSA not hunting in RSA. One can cheat on this by contacting an outfitter that books in RSA and have him make up a fake letter. I do not think that is good because if the SAPS check up on you and find fraud then the outfitter and you can be in deep trouble. This happend to me comming from Zambia to Cape Town and cost us a bribe of $100.00 each to get a letter or the rifles would be confiscated. Not a good situation to be in. As a result my wife, partner and I will not be staying overnight in RSA any longer or until they change the silly rule. Having all of the proper documentation including letters from Peter in Zambia did no good. It really needs to be addressed as so many of have to go through RSA to get to our final destination. square shooter | |||
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I have "used" the new firearms twice this year. In March and again in October. I reported on my experience both times. It is a lot better than the old office. I was not asked for money 0n the second 2 trips. The SAPS persones were very nice, even if one of them thought my double was "an automatic". Lb 404. On both of my second trips I was hunting in Zim, but staying over in SA for 2 days. I had an invitation letter from my Zim outfitter which met the requirements. I also had a "Letter of Intent" written by me that stated I was hunting in Zim but staying over in SA [with the location I was staying]what day I was leaving for Zim and what day I was traveling back through SA. I had no problems. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Here is the article!
....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith | |||
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They forgot to mention, you have to sign for your weapons in the baggage claim area logbook before you go thru customs (without the guns) to then claim them at the office. If you don't sign, you will wait in the office forever and your guns won't show up. Then you have to go back into the secure area and so on. Russ Gould - Whitworth Arms LLC BigfiveHQ.com, Large Calibers and African Safaris Doublegunhq.com, Fine English, American and German Double Rifles and Shotguns VH2Q.com, Varmint Rifles and Gear | |||
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I also had a letter from my outfitter (Wes Hixon) stating I was to hunt in Zambia and then exit through Cape Town after the hunt. I had a letter from Peter Chipman with my hunting agreement which included the side trip to Vic Falls as well as a statement that I was then going to exit through RSA in Cape Town and tour a bit prior to leaving for home. I had a complete airline ticketing itinary as well as all the documents from Gracey Travel to support all of the other information and it still was not good enough. We discussed this with three levels of Officials and their solution was to confiscate the rifles until we could see the magistrate on Monday. That was two days after we were to leave for home. Finally we gave in and bought their damn faked letter from some no name local professional hunter and just got on with it. You really need to know when to fold them. square shooter | |||
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