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Originally posted by Doug W:

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Originally posted by lavaca:
That will occur after the fox was dead and the rest of the pack catches up and wants a piece.

According to our Dr in denial, it doesn't occur. LOL

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Originally posted by lavaca:
I agree with Lane. It's hunting.

No, it is now outlawed hunting.
Pondering why fox hunters lost and anti won the public support and pressured the legislature to ban fox hunting with dogs requires some thinking.
And not just labeling it stupid.

It is outlawed in UK because of stupidity by people like you that have lost all common sense.

It is not outlawed in most states of the USA because common sense prevailed.

Doug,
Many hunt groups in Texas & Oklahoma have started hunting coyotes.

Does a change in quarry make a difference to you?

I am willing to continue the discussion with you, but not until you admit that yes, foxes are torn apart by hounds.

Because it is pointless to converse with someone who denies reality.

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Originally posted by Doug W:
I am willing to continue the discussion with you, but not until you admit that yes, foxes are torn apart by hounds.

Because it is pointless to converse with someone who denies reality.

I have already said it is possible it happens on occasion after the fox is dead.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Your statement — “torn apart by dogs” — exemplifies you are speaking on a subject in which know nothing about and certainly have no experience with. While dogs do kill foxes and coons. They do not ‘rip them apart.’

now moving to..

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I have already said it is possible it happens on occasion after the fox is dead.

Keep going you are getting closer to lucidity.... or honesty.

How exactly would you know when the moment of death is in that dog pack?

In the past people were publically tortured and dismembered, some lasted minutes others hours before dying.
To claim that the foxes are killed instantly is absurd.
And haven't you made enough absurd claims in this thread already?

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Originally posted by Doug W:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Your statement — “torn apart by dogs” — exemplifies you are speaking on a subject in which know nothing about and certainly have no experience with. While dogs do kill foxes and coons. They do not ‘rip them apart.’

now moving to..

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I have already said it is possible it happens on occasion after the fox is dead.

Keep going you are getting closer to lucidity.... or honesty.

How exactly would you know when the moment of death is in that dog pack?

In the past people were publically tortured and dismembered, some lasted minutes others hours before dying.
To claim that the foxes are killed instantly is absurd.
And haven't you made enough absurd claims in this thread already?

My two quoted statements above are consistent. When an event outcome approaches 100%...practical standards justify the use of ~100% in statements.

The rest of your latest post delves back into the likelihood that you are an anti-hunter.

You claim to be a hunter. If so...you would also likely accept a double-lung shot on an ungulate to be an acceptable means of take. How would you know when the actual time of death occurred with such a shot? And, what if it is with a broad-head arrow? Here, it is a customary practice to allow 30 mins for death.

Your path down a slippery slope demonstrates one of two things. 1) You are here as an anti with an agenda. Or 2) You lack the ability to analyze death with objectivity unclouded by emotion.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
You claim to be a hunter. If so...you would also likely accept a double-lung shot on an ungulate to be an acceptable means of take. How would you know when the actual time of death occurred with such a shot?

I don't, and unlike you make no such absurd claims.

I have seen some animals knocked down instantly, cease all movement with such a shot and others that ran great distances.

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Originally posted by Doug W:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
You claim to be a hunter. If so...you would also likely accept a double-lung shot on an ungulate to be an acceptable means of take. How would you know when the actual time of death occurred with such a shot?

I don't, and unlike you make no such absurd claims.

I have seen some animals knocked down instantly, cease all movement with such a shot and others that ran great distances.

Nothing absurd in my statements. If I had any confidence in your ability to be rational...I could easily give objective answers.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I could easily give objective answers.

You have already given your answers, and promptly backpedaled from them. LOL

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Originally posted by Doug W:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I could easily give objective answers.

You have already given your answers, and promptly backpedaled from them. LOL

Another good demonstration of your lack of rationality.

The Daily Mail has a very anti hunting agenda. One day they will wake up to the £ms are government is spending in culling deer.

The problem is that the Daily Mail supports our Tory led bunch of buffoons that are in No 10 which are lead by a Vegan environmentalist.

Only issue I have is that she went to the wrong university, other than that just jealous of her ability to do lots of trips to Africa.

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Originally posted by Doug W:

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Originally posted by lavaca:
That will occur after the fox was dead and the rest of the pack catches up and wants a piece.

According to our Dr in denial, it doesn't occur. LOL

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Originally posted by lavaca:
I agree with Lane. It's hunting.

No, it is now outlawed hunting.
Pondering why fox hunters lost and anti won the public support and pressured the legislature to ban fox hunting with dogs requires some thinking.
And not just labeling it stupid.

The public support brought to this was simply the collective OPINION of people who formed their opinion by listening others who didn't know that they are as misinformed as those who got their information from the media who is clueless as well.
.................................IN OTHER WORDS "The blind leading the blind!"
................................................ MacD37

This may explain why some choose to attack hunters.