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ASK FOR AN ITEMIZED QUOTE PRIOR TO SHIPMENT!!!

Folks,

I have two shipments form Africa both were 2-3 skulls and horn, a shoulder mount, and backskins. They were both about $600. Zimabawe to San Francisco.

You should get an itemized quote from your clearing agent and the shipper before hand and review it.

For example, I saved $125 by not allowing them to insure it for $15,000.


Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10134 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
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I am never going to ship anything ever again. Ever. I could pay for half of a safari on what I have spent shipping crap that I don't really care that much about.
 
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Dan,

Don't hold back tell me how you really feel...did you mean like ever or like never ever. Big Grin

I have decided to not ship myself over either.


Mike

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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500 Man dont be shy,let her rip..My kinda man
 
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500 you said something I agree with...leave it in Africa. Take some quality photos maybe bring back a small piece of local artwork in your luggage then use the shipping money you saved for a deposit on the next safari.
I have a few shoulder mounted animals such as a kudu, a gemsbuck,etc. their lack of thick hair,rubbed spots scars,etc make them look cheap up close when compared with bear,elk,etc IMHO.
 
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Mike,

Thanks for the update. Just got an e-mail this morning from my taxidermist in RSA saying that everything is now finished and they are just waiting on the vet before being ready to ship. I am holding my breath as to what my shipping quote will be (2 rugs, 1 euro blue wildebeest, and 9 shoulder mounts) bawling .
 
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Bwana---you are a masochist...


Mike

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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OK Mike, I was a bit over the top with that. But when I think about having close to 5K in air freight, broker fees, Yellow Freight, etc., I just wish I were putting that towards another safari instead.
 
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I know, but it was the maiden voyage! All that was shot had to be mounted! I hope that I will be able to show greater restraint in the future but am certain that a buff and leopard are destined for the wall in the future. Probably will have future work done stateside to minimize shipping costs. Pictures are great, but I LOVE a great aftrican trophy room!
 
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Bwana gonna bleed bad
 
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Originally posted by Bwanahile:
Pictures are great, but I LOVE a great aftrican trophy room!


Bwanahile

Me too! So far I am still silly enough to want shoulder mounts, even full mounts. But one always feel ripped off on the freight bill. "Quotation", I don't think our airlines locally here know that word. The taxidermy bills are also such a killer.

But if my taxidermist pulls his finger out and gets the freight organised I should have the balance of my 2002 trophies, finally! Woo Hoo!


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You gotta ship them home on your first couple of trips. I cant imagine leaving my lion or elephant ivory over there. However after about four trips I notice that shipping, dip and pack, airfreight clearing, and taxidermy Ive recieved my last shipment also. There always seems to be one animal that you have to get done. This time it was the sable. When you talk to the guys that have done it for years they usually say take photos only.
 
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I agree with Gunny. It's easy for the guys with full trophy rooms to proclaim they'll never ship anything else home but pictures. But it's pretty hard NOT TO if you don't have stuff all over the walls.
I do see the point of bringing back only pictures when you've shot several of a certain species.

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Kyler,

You have an empty trophy room becuase of your marksmanship...not your wallet Big Grin

BTW to All,

There is a new customs clearing agent in the SFO area who used to be at Hechney or however that was spelled. She is very knowledgeable and on top of things.

Within 30 minutes of me contacting her, she sent off this email to the outfitter.

************************************************

Kindly let us know your estimated shipping date for Michael Dettorre's trophies. Likewise, please advise name and e-mail address of your designated freight agent so we can follow up the freight charges from Buenos Aires to San Francisco as client specifically requires "prior notice of charges" before shipping.

Thank you.

Maria Europa-Felix
Hunter International Brokerage Services, Inc.
1633 Bayshore Hwy, Suite 337
Burlingame, CA 94010
Tel 650-652-0100
Fax 650-697-0687
E-mail: meuropa@sbcglobal.net

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Mike

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.



What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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I'll vouch for Maria too. She really keeps on top of the shipments and seems to know her stuff.

Kyler


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NitroX....you are still waiting on the balance of you 2002 trophies? Wow, that seems an extraordinarily long!
 
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I'll be quick to vouch for Maria, and Pam Foerster over in Namibia too! Only had one shipping issue with my trophies, and that was on this end once it cleared Customs. She took care of it immediately.
 
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Here is another satisfied customer of Team Maria & Forester!


"There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark
 
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