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Army police to pounce on people wearing camouflage

By ZimSitRep_M | December 29, 2016
Source: Army police to pounce on people wearing camouflage | The Financial Gazette December 28, 2016

THE Zimbabwe National Army (ZNA) has warned that all those caught wearing military regalia, especially camouflage replicas, face arrest.

In a statement today, director army public relations, Lieutenant Colonel Alphios Makotore, said an increased wearing of camouflage has incidentally coincided with a marked rise in robberies involving people wearing military uniforms or replicas.

“It is against this background that the ZNA wishes to advise traders and members of the public that it is unlawful to sell and wear military regalia or replica, whether from Zimbabwe or any other country,” said Makotore.

“The definition of army uniform means any article or articles of wearing apparel and includes a badge, button, braid or insignia worn in association with any particular item or items of clothing and a tie,” he added.

Section 99(2) (c) of the Defence Act (Chapter 11:02) makes it an offence to wear military regalia or replicas in Zimbabwe by members of the public.

The statement also said event artistes must first seek permission from the army before performing or acting in military regalia or replicas.

“The Zimbabwe Republic Police will arrest culprits found in contravention of the above provisions using the standing statutes and cause their appearance before the courts of law for prosecution,” Makotore warned.

Makes me ponder why so many of "us" still travel to that country for sporting travel.

I used to go to Cabo to sport-fish. I could fly down Thursday, fish Friday full day Saturday full day and Sunday half day. it was right at 1,000.00 bucks for everything, air/boat/room/meals/tips.

When the cartels decided to take over the country, I decided to just go somewhere else. This year I have been on two sport fishing trips. One to Costa Rica and one to Brazil. Mexico must get its own house in order before I will return.

The same holds true for Zim. There are so many other hunting destinations, why support these predatory policies.

Steve, we have similar laws on the books here.

What they are talking about is people impersonating military or police and then robbing them.

Look at the number of road blocks over there... How do you know if it is a police roadblock or some enterprising fellow?

The difference is that the populace there can't tell the difference between a military uniform and hunting camo.

I also suspect if you wear old Rhodesian camo, that to many ZANU PF folks it is like wearing an old Nazi SS uniform around here. Don't tell me you wouldn't be arrested wearing that near a synagogue.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
Steve, we have similar laws on the books here.

What they are talking about is people impersonating military or police and then robbing them.

Look at the number of road blocks over there... How do you know if it is a police roadblock or some enterprising fellow?

The difference is that the populace there can't tell the difference between a military uniform and hunting camo.

I also suspect if you wear old Rhodesian camo, that to many ZANU PF folks it is like wearing an old Nazi SS uniform around here. Don't tell me you wouldn't be arrested wearing that near a synagogue.

Agreed. BUT. . . are you willing to trust your hunting vacation on the decision making ability of a Zim cop or whatever?

As I used Mexico as a comparison. There are plenty of places in Africa to hunt without this. That's my only point.

Steve

Steve,

I've always told my clients to not wear any camo on the plane, in town or on the road at all regardless of what African country they are hunting. I think that policy will still keep folks out of trouble. Like you I agree that there are still many other good destinations for a safari in Africa but Zim is still the best bang for the buck on a safari for all but the specialty animals.

Mark

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Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
Steve,

I've always told my clients to not wear any camo on the plane, in town or on the road at all regardless of what African country they are hunting. I think that policy will still keep folks out of trouble. Like you I agree that there are still many other good destinations for a safari in Africa but Zim is still the best bang for the buck on a safari for all but the specialty animals.

Mark

Hi Mark.

Agree completely. I have always traveled in business casual. I go 1000% out of my way to look like a business traveler rather than a hunter or some random guy on vacation.

My father came from an era when men wore suits
and women dressed classy when flying. He always tried to impress upon me how it may not mean anything to others but it meant something to him.

Happy New Year,

Steve

Steve,

And to take that one step further. I advise folks to put the bling in their luggage or better yet leave it home. Rolex watches, diamond rings and gold jewelry will only attract unwanted attention while traveling. Inconspicuous is the look to go for while traveling internationally or in country.

Mark

Remind me to not do the "sleeveless safari shirt" thing on my next trip to Zim. I've got my Navy Wings tattooed on my right shoulder. Wouldn't want to spend a few nights as Uncle Bob's guest for violating the military regalia law!

lol

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
The same holds true for Zim. There are so many other hunting destinations, why support these predatory policies.

. . . perhaps because there are so many wonderful operators in the country that struggle year-to-year despite the political situation to deliver exceptional hunts for their clients and to preserve the remaining wildlife in the county . . . folks like Buzz Charlton and Myles McCallum, Thierry Labat, the Duckworth's, Andrew Dawson and Paul Smith, the Whittall's, Pete Barnard, Shaun Buffy, Martin Pieters, Brent Hein and the list could go on and on. In my view, the quality and professionalism of the professional hunting community in Zimbabwe is second to none. Why penalize them for a political situation outside of their control by boycotting the country? They will be the first to tell hunters to stay home if they ever feel there is any serious potential for harm.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
The same holds true for Zim. There are so many other hunting destinations, why support these predatory policies.

. . . perhaps because there are so many wonderful operators in the country that struggle year-to-year despite the political situation to deliver exceptional hunts for their clients and to preserve the remaining wildlife in the county . . . folks like Buzz Charlton and Myles McCallum, Thierry Labat, the Duckworth's, Andrew Dawson and Paul Smith, the Whittall's, Pete Barnard, Shaun Buffy, Martin Pieters, Brent Hein and the list could go on and on. In my view, the quality and professionalism of the professional hunting community in Zimbabwe is second to none. Why penalize them for a political situation outside of their control by boycotting the country? They will be the first to tell hunters to stay home if they ever feel there is any serious potential for harm.

Why then penalize all the fine Mexican charter captains? Or the operators in CAR that risk their entire life's work to operate in that Country for our sporting pleasure?

You have a special affinity for Zimbabwe and all its fine service providers. I appreciate and respect that but that's hardly a reason to pick all that corruption and governmental tyranny over someplace that it doesn't exist.

It isn't, wasn't and never will be my responsibility to use a provider in an environment of near full societal breakdown.

To continue to travel to a country under the iron fist of Mugabe, is in essence supporting Mugabe's policies. Obama normalized the diplomatic relationship with Cuba. What is the incentive for Cuba to change its policies?

Oh, it isn't about personal safety, it's all about a corrupt government.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:
The same holds true for Zim. There are so many other hunting destinations, why support these predatory policies.

. . . perhaps because there are so many wonderful operators in the country that struggle year-to-year despite the political situation to deliver exceptional hunts for their clients and to preserve the remaining wildlife in the county . . . folks like Buzz Charlton and Myles McCallum, Thierry Labat, the Duckworth's, Andrew Dawson and Paul Smith, the Whittall's, Pete Barnard, Shaun Buffy, Martin Pieters, Brent Hein and the list could go on and on. In my view, the quality and professionalism of the professional hunting community in Zimbabwe is second to none. Why penalize them for a political situation outside of their control by boycotting the country? They will be the first to tell hunters to stay home if they ever feel there is any serious potential for harm.

Good hunting

Carl Frederik

The list of stable African countries . . . countries free of corruption and governmental tyranny . . . is such a long and illustrious one. Hard to imagine corruption and governmental tyranny in places like Mozambique, Tanzania, Zambia . . .

Trivia: Tanzania is actually ranked lower than Mozambique in terms of public sector corruption . . . yet my impression is that some still hunt there. Yes, Tanzania is ranked higher than Zimbabwe (117 vs. 150) . . . sort of like being the tallest in a room full of midgets seems to me.

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“The definition of army uniform means any article or articles of wearing apparel and includes a badge, button, braid or insignia worn in association with any particular item or items of clothing and a tie,” he added.

Section 99(2) (c) of the Defence Act (Chapter 11:02) makes it an offence to wear military regalia or replicas in Zimbabwe by members of the public.


“The Zimbabwe Republic Police will arrest culprits found in contravention of the above provisions using the standing statutes and cause their appearance before the courts of law for prosecution,” Makotore warned.

Guess I better not wear my black US Army Marksmanship Training Unit hat in Zim. I've worn it proudly for over 40 years, and will wear it in April 2017 during my trip to Namibia hunting eland with Jan du Plessis of Sebra Hunting Safaris. Mugabe can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned.