Todd,

Open this thread which is in the Australian Hunting forum

http://forums.accuratereloadin...043/m/5031018391/p/1


As you will see you can shoot buffalo etc and at the same time test barrel life.

Farbedo,
In response to your question about CEB. I have not used them in a 7mm but have in 300 win mag. I used 140 gr. raptors with great success. Tremendous tissue damage. These bullets can shoot light for caliber. My buddy has a 7wsm and he dropped his mule deer drt at 500 yds and killed several animals in zim this year with no problems, zebra and wildebeest included. He used 140

Brent,

Thanks. I don't see a lot posted on the CEB copper MTH bullets, just the non-cons/solids and occasionally the Raptor.

I really wanted to try out the 9.3 210gr raptor esp, but my rifling twist is too slow for them. Bummer too, those would be wicked moving out at 2900fps.

My thinking was that I could use their 7mm 155gr MTH bullet. The high BC would help carry energy downrange and make up some for the slower starting speed of the 7X57. This rifle is a long action, so the COAL isn't a problem for the magazine.

I'll take another look at the raptor. I was thinking heavy for caliber bullets and didn't really consider them.

How fast are the 140's moving out of your .300?

Jeremy

Hello Mike,

Yep, definitely planning on getting down under soon to put bullet to buffalo as Michael458 puts it! Looks like a ton of fun Mate!

God grandson used an 06 and the 150gr Ttsx bullet to take his Zebra this summer. I'd use the 140 gr Ttsx in the 7x57 if using that round myself, and I consider it a good one, just use a 280 myself. The 140s in the 280 killed like lightening.

Tysue, thanks for the information. The TTSX may be the way to go. My understanding is that the plastic tip makes them open up a little faster. A better scenario with the slightly slower 7X57. I can get a 140 moving 2800fps without to much issue in my 7X57 rifle. Hopefully, my wife's will perform similarly. How does that compare to your 280 load?

I have only used my 7X57 on pronghorns, and used 140gr ballistic tips. Wicked bullet, but too fragile for bigger game IMHO. I haven't used a wide variety of bullets in any of my rifles to be truthful. Once I find one I like, it sticks around.

Jeremy

150 TSX in my wife's Remington .280 worked fine on Zebra and I have never had an issue with these or the TTSXs. As to the TSX/TTSXs not opening/penetrating I wish more people had that problem so I would not always be searching internet sites trying to find them in stock
Don

Jeremy,
I am puhing the 130 Ceb raptors at a little over 3500. My buddy is around 3200 with them in his 7wsm. I used barnes for years and killed alot of critters with some sort of 300 from impala, to moose, too giraffe. Always impressed with them. Only lost an eland i shot at 350 yds. I am more impressed with the raptors. Admittedly i am a speed freak.

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Originally posted by farbedo:
Brent,

Thanks. I don't see a lot posted on the CEB copper MTH bullets, just the non-cons/solids and occasionally the Raptor.

I really wanted to try out the 9.3 210gr raptor esp, but my rifling twist is too slow for them. Bummer too, those would be wicked moving out at 2900fps.

My thinking was that I could use their 7mm 155gr MTH bullet. The high BC would help carry energy downrange and make up some for the slower starting speed of the 7X57. This rifle is a long action, so the COAL isn't a problem for the magazine.

I'll take another look at the raptor. I was thinking heavy for caliber bullets and didn't really consider them.

How fast are the 140's moving out of your .300?

Jeremy

I shot a couple whitetails does with my 300 Wim Mag and the 145 grain CEB Raptors. On an internal inspection of one, I couldn't find her heart. I found where is was supposed to be, but no heart was present. Didn't think much of it at the time because it was dark, decided to dump her to drain the remaining blood and noticed the blood was draining thru the pelvis cavity like it should have been. Reach in and found three hard muscled objects, yep, you guessed it, I found the heart. In total, I dug around and found four pieces all about the size, or slightly larger, than a golf ball.

Also made a not so good shot on a doe at about 200 yards that was quartering towards me. I shot her too far back right in the paunch. But boy did it make a mess of what it did hit. Deer made it about 200 yards and I found it piled up dead about an hour later after allowing it to "stiffen up". Would I have found that deer using another bullet, who knows? But I do know that I didn't have any problems tracking this deer down.

Am I sold on the CEB bullets yet? Not in my 300! However, I think I'll take a few along with me to RSA with me next year to try on some cull animals. But, I'll also be packing either either 168 gr TTSX or 180 gr TSX for my zebra. Yet, I'll also be taking my 375 H&H with 300 gr TSX that I might also use for the zebra.

I had a similar experience with my 300 on a med size buck. Deer was almost broadside. All 6 petals exited along with the core. There was about a golf ball size piece of heart still attached to the aorta. The lungs were not where they should be. They were almost melted to the ribs. I had to scrape them off the sides. Tremendous damage. More than my barnes had ever given me

QUOTE]Originally posted by graybird:
I shot a couple whitetails does with my 300 Wim Mag and the 145 grain CEB Raptors. On an internal inspection of one, I couldn't find her heart. I found where is was supposed to be, but no heart was present. Didn't think much of it at the time because it was dark, decided to dump her to drain the remaining blood and noticed the blood was draining thru the pelvis cavity like it should have been. Reach in and found three hard muscled objects, yep, you guessed it, I found the heart. In total, I dug around and found four pieces all about the size, or slightly larger, than a golf ball.

Also made a not so good shot on a doe at about 200 yards that was quartering towards me. I shot her too far back right in the paunch. But boy did it make a mess of what it did hit. Deer made it about 200 yards and I found it piled up dead about an hour later after allowing it to "stiffen up". Would I have found that deer using another bullet, who knows? But I do know that I didn't have any problems tracking this deer down.

Am I sold on the CEB bullets yet? Not in my 300! However, I think I'll take a few along with me to RSA with me next year to try on some cull animals. But, I'll also be packing either either 168 gr TTSX or 180 gr TSX for my zebra. Yet, I'll also be taking my 375 H&H with 300 gr TSX that I might also use for the zebra.[/QUOTE]

The 7x57 is one of those calibers that has built a sterling reputation with old fashioned cup and core bullets ... the reason being the modest velocity and the tight twist. Ergo, long bullet that will penetrate. The 6.5x55 is another, 6.5x54MS,8x57,9.3x74R ... In the 7x57, the Hornady 154 gr RN loaded at 2400-2500 will do a superb job on any plains game.

You don't need the latest high tech monometal or multimetal bullets in these slower calibers. They were developed to solve the problem of bullet failure at high velocities from magnum calibers.

Russ has made a very valid point in his post, which we all tend to forget in our enthusiasm for new technology in everything we do.

A mate of mine has a 308 which he built to hunt fallow deer here in Australia. Everyone told him to use Woodleigh Weldcore PSP's in the gun.....the result was a lot of fallow deer shot repeatedly as the bullets were TOO hard.

He now has me loading 150 Hornady's in it for him and the deer are dropping on the spot....

Russ,

Good point. I already have a box 160gr Partitions to try out. In today's terms those are old school, just not quite as old school as a Corelokt or Interlock.

My wife is a great shot, so I am over thinking the whole matter anyway.

Thanks for everyone's thoughts.

Jeremy