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Which concession would you be referring to as I have the list in front of me.  | |||
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No animal rights organizations involved at all, just hunting-orientated financial backers with deep pockets supporting the outfitters, so to blame the TZ govt. for for the end result is rather harsh because the aim of any auction is to obtain the best value. | |||
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My concern is the only way to make these blocks profitable at these prices is to shoot the crap out of them. That's not conservation. It's not good for hunting. And ultimately, it's not good for Tanzania. | |||
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Indeed, its called "hit & run", at the expense of the wildlife and more ammunition for the animal rights activists. | |||
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Thanks for the clarification. Glad the government corrected the prior bidding glitch. There is a lot more fixed cost to amortize over a 4.5-5.5 month hunting season. | |||
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Does anyone have the final list of the "winners"? | |||
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A lot of names on the final list are not recognizable in terms of names that most people might recognize. ----------------------------------------- "I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived. -Henry David Thoreau, Walden | |||
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Is there a link to it? | |||
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SN Company Hunting Block category Amount USD 1 TROPHY BELT TANZANIA CO. LIMITED Hunting Block: Kizigo GR C II 90,000 2 NZOHE HUNTING SAFARIS LIMITED Hunting Block: Kitwai GCA SW III 39,000 3 MICHEL MANTHEAKIS SAFARIS LTD Lukwati GR S II 91,000 4 ROBIN HURT SAFARIS (T) LTD Lake Natron GCA S I 192,000 5 ILAROI RANCHING LIMITED Ugalla GR S II 105,000 6 LUKE SAMARAS SAFARIS LTD Selous GR MS1 II 120,000 7 KILOMBERO NORTH SAFARI LTD Lake Natron GCA W II 171,000 8 BUSHMAN HUNTING SAFARIS (T) LTD Burko OA I 400,000 9 SAFARI ROYAL HOLDINGS LTD Lukwati GR N II 86,000 10 TROPHY BELT TANZANIA CO. LIMITED Ngaserai OA II 85,000 11 MALIKIA CLEARING & FORWADING COMPANY LIMITED Hunting Block: Selous GR MT1 II 85,000 12 TANZANIA SAFARI AND HUNTING (2003) LTD Rungwa Rungwa GR W I 155,000 13 TANZANIA BIG GAME SAFARIS LTD Monduli Juu OA II 101,000 14 MICHEL MANTHEAKIS SAFARIS LTD Longido GCA N II 84,000 15 ROBIN HURT SAFARIS (T) LTD Luganzo GR II 166,000 16 ILAROI RANCHING LIMITED Rungwa Mwamagembe GR II 95,000 17 TANZANIA BIG GAME SAFARIS LTD Ruvu Masai GCA II 125,000 18 ESHKESH SAFARIS LTD Masai OA E II 135,000 19 SAFARIA SAFARIS TANZANIA LIMITED Rungwa Rungwa GR E I 151,000 20 TROPHY BELT TANZANIA CO. LIMITED Simanjiro GCA W III 200,000 21 TANZANIA SAFARI AND HUNTING (2003) LTD Lake Rukwa GR I 185,000 22 AFRICAB ADVENTURE LIMITED Rungwa Mpera GR I 285,000 23 AFRICAB ADVENTURE LIMITED Ugalla GR E II 230,000 24 GAME FRONTIERS OF TANZANIA LTD Makere-Uvinza OA III 52,000 25 EBN HUNTING SAFARIS LTD Moyowosi GR S II 250,000 26 TANZANIA SAFARI AND HUNTING (2003) LTD Selous GR U3 II 95,000 27 DESTINATION 255 CO LIMITED Hunting Block: Liparamba GR III 31,000 28 PORI TRACKERS OF AFRICA LTD Selous GR LR3 II 93,000 29 ILAROI RANCHING LIMITED Rungwa OA S II 90,000 30 LUKE SAMARAS SAFARIS LTD Selous GR LR1 II 121,000 31 ADAM CLEMENTS SAFARIS LIMITED Moyowosi/Njingwe GR3 II 176,000 32 TANZANIA BIG GAME SAFARIS LTD Masai OA W I 151,000 33 SAFARIA SAFARIS TANZANIA LIMITED Selous GR MHJ3 II 82,000 34 ILAROI RANCHING LIMITED Lolkisale GCA I 235,000 35 WEMBERE HUNTING SAFARIS LTD Kilombero Ruhudji/Ifinga E II 81,000 36 ADAM CLEMENTS SAFARIS LIMITED Lake Natron GCA N II 160,000 37 CLEMENTS SAFARI TRACKERS LTD Hunting Block: Moyowosi/Njingwe GR 1 II 81,000 38 KILOMBERO NORTH SAFARI LTD Kilombero Ruhidji Ifinga GR (W) II 81,000 39 AFRICAN BUFFALO SAFARIS TRACKERS LTD Mto wa Mbu GCA I 151,000 40 MKWAWA HUNTING SAFARIS (T) LTD Selous GR U4 II 130,000 41 PLAINS GAME ADVENTURES LIMITED Simanjiro Naberera GCA III 65,000 42 PORI TRACKERS OF AFRICA LTD Selous GR LR2 II 85,000 43 TROPHY BELT TANZANIA CO. LIMITED Simanjiro Kitiangare GCA III 190,000 44 TANZANIA BIG GAME SAFARIS LTD Rungwa Ikili GR I 161,000 45 TRAILCHASERS LIMITED Selous GR MA1 II 92,000 Total 6,029,000 | |||
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$400,000 for Burko? Really? These prices are outrageous. | |||
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Now you can make a Combo Safari in 2 of the very best hunting Blocks in todays Africa. Burko Massailand and Maswa in the West with the same Outfitter. Thats the deal Nec Timor Nec Temeritas | |||
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What are the differences between the categories? | |||
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And anyone has a map of the concessions? | |||
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Supposedly governed by the abundance and variety of sought-after game and other key species. | |||
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Indeed, but at what price?  | |||
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Does anyone know who Ilaroy Ranching is? | |||
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About the price of a new pickup truck and a small car!  Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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PM Sent ----------------------------------------- "I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived. -Henry David Thoreau, Walden | |||
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Were their any major losses of concessions from previously established safari operators? Changes in concessions? Unknown new safari operators taking over prime areas? 4WD | |||
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https://www.thecitizen.co.tz/t...hunting-bill-3704112 Local hunters unhappy with the new wildlife hunting bill THURSDAY FEBRUARY 03 2022 Hunter Summary Criticisms against the bill follows recent complaints by the same group over not being allocated hunting blocks with sufficient numbers of animals. By Zephania Ubwani More by this Author Arusha. Local hunters have once again criticized a new legislation on wildlife hunting. They claim that the recently passed Bill on hunting could be another ploy to push them out of business. Mr Saidi Mzee, the secretary of Tanzania Local Hunters Association (TLHA), said they had reservations on the Bill. “It is bent on removing us from hunting,” he told The Citizen, calling for swift intervention of higher authorities. He said efforts to reach out the relevant authorities to have their grievances heard and acted upon have been futile. That is despite a series of meetings convened by the Tanzania Wildlife Management Authority (Tawa) for the hunting companies and other stakeholders. Also involved is the Wildlife Division in the Natural Resources and Tourism, another government arm overseeing wildlife hunting. Criticisms against the bill follows recent complaints by the same group over not being allocated hunting blocks with sufficient numbers of animals. The 45-member TLHA alleges this was a systematic way to push them out of the hunting business in favour of tourist hunters from abroad. However, lately the body has claimed that most critical in their grievances are not confined to the hunting licenses. Mr Mzee said the critical point on their grievances was the recently passed “draconian bill” which threatens to edge them out of hunting business. “The premise of our cry is on the new bill, not licenses”, he affirmed, calling for the intervention of President Samia Suluhu Hassan on the issue. “Our salvation is in Mama Samia,” hinted the chairperson of the association, Mr Ali Jumbe, in an interview. He alleged that the Wildlife Conservation (Resident Hunting) Regulations, 2020 were not friendly to the indigenous players in the industry. TLHA, a legal entity registered since 2011, is one of the hunting groups whose members are licensed to hunt for game meat, trophy and Kathi kathi@wildtravel.net 708-425-3552 "The world is a book, and those who do not travel read only one page." | |||
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Did all these areas get finalized as shown? Or are some of them still up in the air? | |||
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One thing for sure- prices are going up next year………. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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Thanks for posting that information, Saeed. I would be interested to know how these prices compare with prices achieved for each of these areas in the previous tender. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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No, there were some disputes and issues. For example, Trophy Belt was declared ineligible, so all the blocks are going back on the next auction this month. ----------------------------------------- "I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived. -Henry David Thoreau, Walden | |||
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I find it interesting that Ilaroi Ranching has gotten some prime concessions. From what I’ve found in a web search, they seem to only offer photo safaris. Are they branching into hunting, or am I missing something? | |||
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The Tanzania Wildlife Management Authority (Tawa) announced last month that it will sell 75 hunting blocks within Game Reserves (GRs), Game Controlled Areas (GCAs) and Open Areas (OAs) If, as the advert reads, ILaroi Ranching should not be permitted to conduct photographic safaris as alleged. In any case, I don't see how it would be economically viable to do so if one considers the cost of investment (annual) versus returns from a photographic venture. | |||
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Fulvio, I’ve been told privately that Ilaroi is owned by one of the long established hunting operators, so all good. | |||
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Indeed, I too know who it is. Fact still remains that the advertised areas put up for auction are established hunting blocks to be sold to the highest bidder for, I must assume, hunting safaris and should remain as categorized. If they were earmarked for activities other than hunting,it would have been reasonable to de-classify these hunting areas to photographic safari status or would that sound unreasonable? All in all, good for him to have been able to pull it off as after a period of lying fallow, he will still have the opportunity of returning the area to its original status. | |||
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