Forgive me for my ignorance but what is a PAC elephant?
Thanks
Dr B

Problem Animal Control (PAC)

For example, elephants that destroy crops and villages, that thus need to be shot.

Generally speaking, PAC elephant trophies are not exportable as they fall outside of the country's CITES quota.

Regards,

Terry

Forgive me for my ignorance but ........................how are the tusks and the tail disposed of?

Are they burnt or kept in a vault waiting for better days. Thanks.

In Zimbabwe....The tusks and hide belong to the local "Rural Disctrict Council". They sell the hide to the highest payer. The ivory is booked into the national stockpile heald at National Parks head office. This ivory is for sale to local and regional ivory dealers - mostly carvers- who buy ivory weekly from the parks stores. When a pair of tusks belonging to a council are sold to a dealer, parks keeps 2% for admin costs and sends the council a cheque for the rest. In theory that money is then to be spent on improving tribal tollerence of wildlife.

Oh, the meat gets eaten- usually very soon after the ele hits the ground.

So, can you keep the tail of a PAC?

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Originally posted by Ganyana:
They sell the hide to the highest payer.

Ganyana,

I got the imprssion last summer that the price on ele hides are rather low now compaired to what they used to be.

What do you think the local council approxomatly would get for a bull hide nowadays?

I shot a PAC elephant in February, 2004. The game scout was most insistent about cutting the tail himself. On the recovery, it was clear that the scout and his crew enjoyed lording it over the 300+ locals who had arrived for a scrap of meat. They intimidated the crowd and held them back by swatting at them with switches while they cut huge chunks from the carcass and stacked them aside for themselves and their cronies. After awhile, the PH, Brent Hein had had enough and waved the crowd on. They rushed the carcass, attacking it with knives and hands and axes and also quickly made off with the scout's carefully arranged pile.

I received nothing in the way of a trophy except photos and quite an interesting experience that I'll never forget.

Eric Ele hide runs arround US$3 per kg at best- well down on the 18/kg that we got at the 1998 sale.

I normally insist on keeping the hair from the tail for bracelets etc to send home with the client. Yes you could keep the tail, but then would have to sort export paperwork- easily enough done if that is what you really want. Give tail to taxidermy enterprises- "buy it" from them at the cost of the tanning and dip work, and then it is legal to export and zim will issue an export permit.

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Originally posted by Ganyana:
Eric Ele hide runs arround US$3 per kg at best- well down on the 18/kg that we got at the 1998 sale.

I normally insist on keeping the hair from the tail for bracelets etc to send home with the client. Yes you could keep the tail, but then would have to sort export paperwork- easily enough done if that is what you really want. Give tail to taxidermy enterprises- "buy it" from them at the cost of the tanning and dip work, and then it is legal to export and zim will issue an export permit.

Ganyana

I sent You a PM. Thanks.

Namibia does allow export (at least some) of their PAC Elephant.

Jean

No PM come through

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Originally posted by Ganyana:
Jean

No PM come through

Thus, my question is :
Have You recieved anything from me, care of African Hunter Magazine????????
Thanks.
jbderunz@wanadoo.fr