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French safari hunt outcry forces supermarket bosses to resign

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A couple who ran a supermarket in a small town in eastern France have lost their jobs after their trophy pictures from a safari hunt went viral.

The 2015 pictures show the couple posing over a dead hippopotamus, zebra, leopard, alligator and lion.

The Super U co-operative group's store in the Rhône town of L'Arbresle had seen calls for a shop boycott widely shared on Facebook.

The group announced the couple were leaving with immediate effect.

The shop, north-east of Lyon, was closed on Wednesday after the co-operative group announced the resignations. The couple involved have not commented on their departure or on the criticism on social media.

"In the face of condemnation provoked by these actions at the heart of the co-operative and the legitimate public feeling, the store managers have decided to quit immediately the brand and their l'Arbresle store," the group announced.

The co-operative's values were diametrically opposed to the private activities of safari hunting and to the photos that had been published, it insisted.

One poster on Facebook who had called for a boycott of the store appealed to the public not to threaten staff as they had nothing to do with the issue. The couple's faces were also disguised:


"It's a shame we know Super U purely for its 30% reductions on fresh food, when they also have 100% rotten managers," one poster named anymal complained.

However it was not until the story began circulating on Twitter that the issue went viral.

The hunt pictures were featured on a big game safari website specialising in hunts in KwaZulu Natal in South Africa and Tanzania which includes testimony from one of the two managers describing their safari.


Prices for various trophies are listed on the site, including $7,150 (£5,725; €6,370) for a leopard and $3,399 for a hippo.

The cause was taken up by animal rights foundation 30 Millions d'Amis, which recalled the 2015 case of a lion shot by a bow and arrow by an American dentist in a Zimbabwean national park.

The American had paid a reported $50,000 to hunt the lion and the outrage on social media prompted a wave of abuse directed at the man involved.

The foundation complained that some 8,000 lions had been bred for slaughter in the past decade in South Africa, and yet the country had seen a 90% drop in lion numbers in a century, with fears the animal could disappear by 2050.

Oh the joys of social media.

There is a price to be paid trying to be famous...

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Originally posted by Opus1:
Oh the joys of social media.

There is a price to be paid trying to be famous...

No.

It is stupidity of low life idiots.

If I had the power,I would stop all these stupid so called animal rights idiots from until I zing ANYTHING that comes from animals in their lives.

Let us see how they react!

You can start by stop posting pictures on social media. Stop giving the lunatic left the fuel to continue winning the narrative.

Hunters are their own worst enemy. The need to feed their ego is losing the war to protect their rights.

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You can start by stop posting pictures on social media. Stop giving the lunatic left the fuel to continue winning the narrative.

Hunters are their own worst enemy.

The need to feed their ego is losing the war to protect their rights.

Some people just don't get it and its the last sentence that says it all.

Case in point, in the last 5 years we have quietly culled 6 problem elephants and at least 15 lion - some with clients some on our own. Not one picture was taken and not one hunting report was posted on the internet.

Funny, and not one death threat, not one boycott, not one anti-hunting campaign launched.

A good friend of mine has a farm outside Outjo who culls problem cats for the surrounding farms. He has killed hundreds of cats over the past 20 years. Again, not one death threat, not one anti-hunting campaign launched. That's largely because he doesn't run around the internet bragging about it.

Sadly, that is why this forum is not as interesting as it used to be twenty years ago.

We have already seen these photos on AR a couple years ago.

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The co-operative's values were diametrically opposed to the private activities of safari hunting and to the photos that had been published, it insisted.

When I see that, here is what I think : What a bunch of hypocrites !

Look at what we find at the end of the year in whole of "Super U" stores.



Bought by a knowledge : Zebra coming from South africa and crocodile from Zimbabwe.

I hope the good people now boycott the company.
There is nothing wrong with sharing your hunting pictures and standing up for what you believe in.There is something wrong in hiding.

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Originally posted by jhaney:
Sadly, that is why this forum is not as interesting as it used to be twenty years ago.

+1 Look at the scarcity of hunt reports.

yup not posting anything sure does help are cause. Hiding and be scared to post stuff helps us how.

Because all the animals have been killed but not talked about helps how? Animals that could have been hunted legal and made money now just killed because they are a problem yup that will help keep hunting around. Crazy how a few nut jobs can make us as a group hide and stop sharing pictures.

The way I read it the pictures were posted on the outfitter's website...but maybe I read it wrong.

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Crazy how a few nut jobs can make us as a group hide and stop sharing pictures.

I would hardly call them "a few" as they have outnumbered us, reached out and successfully corrupted politicians who will do anything to appease them and garner their votes.

Those are facts.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Crazy how a few nut jobs can make us as a group hide and stop sharing pictures.

I would hardly call them "a few" as they have outnumbered us, reached out and successfully corrupted politicians who will do anything to appease them and garner their votes.

Those are facts.

+1

We are the FEW.

I post family pictures on Instagram and Facebook. They're good pictures, I'm doing nothing wrong or immoral, I certainly think posting those pictures are just fine.
I also post pictures of Alaska senery, fishing pictures the rare political or funny post too. Nothing wrong there also.

I understand that the antis use hunting photos against us, but it bothers me on a gut level to feel the need to hide hunti g photos. I have been immensely proud and happy with my previous bird dogs and have just been bursting to share color photos of them afield with game. I don't really feel " proud" of my personal hunting moments, but again, am happy to share color photos of game, game taken and places I have been. I shouldn't have to hide that.

No one has any idea of the true numbers. They just make a bigger stink and use social media to beat us down.

There is millions of hunters also but so many hide now or don't bother to be heard. So many would rather beat up on fellow hunters then fight with the ones that need to be gone up to and told there wrong. We keep hiding and not sharing the story of hunting we will not need to worry much longer.

Although I do believe that many are not posting hunt reports because they don't want their pictures used in any way they did not wish,I don't think it is the only reason.Pictures of special moments are to shared not only with good friends but with respectful people.Unfortunately respectful people are hard to come by.

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Originally posted by Opus1:
You can start by stop posting pictures on social media. Stop giving the lunatic left the fuel to continue winning the narrative.

Hunters are their own worst enemy. The need to feed their ego is losing the war to protect their rights.

Completely agree!

Hunters need to take a lesson from the trapping community. We have a very pro active group keeping the rights and privileges of trappers protected from anti legislation and harassment. The facts are more and more people live in cities and lead very unnatural lives. Far removed from their grandparents life only a generation or two ago. Be respectful of ourselves and the wildlife and wild places while being pro active and vigilant against those who want all people to live according to their rules. The rules of concrete and and steel. Better to live within nature’s rules. I feel for all who have left the farm and ranch and moved to town. Depending on the others to patronize their business...or boycott it. No, not for me. Bury me on the lone prairie. Support your farmers and ranchers and go hunting trapping and fishing.

It scary how clueless some are and see posting pictures of hunting is about ego's very sad. If you think we are losing the fight because of a few pictures I don't even know what to say.

We lose because so many cater to the anti's feelings. There is so much of the public who could care less either way and few nut jobs that I would say do most of the yelling. We hunters all over the world are not some small number like so many like to make us out to be.

What we are as a group is people who can not back each other for some reason. Hell just showing how we can not back people who post hunting pictures shows how sad we are as a group

Question for all - Considering the Cecil debacle and the subsequent lion ban that it largely initiated, what do you suppose would have been the outcome if there were no Social Media pictures and no Social Media postings of the event?

I ask because Cecil the freakin lion is not the first collared lion to be shot near a national park. In fact, there have been two other such instances since the freking lion was shot that never hit Social Media and no one outside of those involved ever knew happened.

So are pictures plastered all over Social Media really winning the war to protect our hunting rights?

Please correct me if I'm mistaken but I do believe the first images to appear in the Walter Palmer story were of other dead lions and hunters.

The whole debate about the hunting community sharing pictures publicly is moot. That ship sailed at least two decades ago.

In this day of left click, right save, anti-hunting inc. has already stolen and saved enough images to litter it's insipid agenda online, and off, for the next century.

Nobody is going to put that genie back in the bottle.

One of their favorite games is to spin these stolen images on a platform they have complete control over.
There is zero (0) opportunity for the hunting community to rebut in this scenario, therefore (even if Peta et al. cared about something other than lining their silk pockets) the real story is never taught.

Both Google and Fakebook are nothing but platforms for control.

Just now I read that Google speakers are listing, and recording, everything you say in your home, even when you set them not too!

Fakebook is following you everywhere, even when you turn your locations off.

A friend from Europe in the diplomatic service, was here a few days ago.

He said “We have to lie a lot in our business. But one thing I will say with a straight face! AR is the only social media website that is actually FREE! FREE in every sense of the word.”

He does not use Fakebook.

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It scary how clueless some are and see posting pictures of hunting is about ego's very sad. If you think we are losing the fight because of a few pictures I don't even know what to say.

Why therefore does one post such controversial photos on a social platform if it is not aimed at seeking attention, especially when it is known to generate vehemently negative reactions?

I use the word "controversial" simply because there are abnormal people in this world that consider them to be just that and they are the same that have actively (and successfully) started a crusade to stop these photos appearing by attacking their source: hunting.

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
Hunters need to take a lesson from the trapping community. We have a very pro active group keeping the rights and privileges of trappers protected from anti legislation and harassment. The facts are more and more people live in cities and lead very unnatural lives. Far removed from their grandparents life only a generation or two ago. Be respectful of ourselves and the wildlife and wild places while being pro active and vigilant against those who want all people to live according to their rules. The rules of concrete and and steel. Better to live within nature’s rules. I feel for all who have left the farm and ranch and moved to town. Depending on the others to patronize their business...or boycott it. No, not for me. Bury me on the lone prairie. Support your farmers and ranchers and go hunting trapping and fishing.

I could not have said better. Pointing out how urban life has ruined the human species is key. It's not going to change for the better either.

You kidding me your that thick you can not see past your own beliefs. I post to share with my friends and show what fun I have had hunting. I then share the taxidermist pics to. Has nothing to do with ego or chest pumping.
I am a proud hunter and could care less who does not like my pictures or like hunting. You go hide in a corner I will keep posting as I like and enjoy hunting.

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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It scary how clueless some are and see posting pictures of hunting is about ego's very sad. If you think we are losing the fight because of a few pictures I don't even know what to say.

Why therefore does one post such controversial photos on a social platform if it is not aimed at seeking attention, especially when it is known to generate vehemently negative reactions?

I use the word "controversial" simply because there are abnormal people in this world that consider them to be just that and they are the same that have actively (and successfully) started a crusade to stop these photos appearing by attacking their source: hunting.

I remember enjoying hunting before the days of the Internet and social media just as much as I do today. I don’t see how the Internet or Social Media increases anyone’s enjoyment of hunting. But I do see how the Internet and Social Media has been the greatest tool devised and harnessed for losing our hunting rights and apparently for a few, their livelihood and freedom as well.

Speaking of which, don’t see much of Mike Jines these days. He’s certainly a cautionary tail on how combining social media and hunting can ruin one’s life.

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Originally posted by Opus1:
You can start by stop posting pictures on social media. Stop giving the lunatic left the fuel to continue winning the narrative.

Hunters are their own worst enemy. The need to feed their ego is losing the war to protect their rights.

There you go, keep it personal.

Grizz

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Opus1:
I remember enjoying hunting before the days of the Internet and social media just as much as I do today. I don’t see how the Internet or Social Media increases anyone’s enjoyment of hunting. But I do see how the Internet and Social Media has been the greatest tool devised and harnessed for losing our hunting rights and apparently for a few, their livelihood and freedom as well.



I remember those days as well and I still enjoy each day I get to go out. Sharing a few pictures is far from our main problem. Just a new way of being able to share pictures. Just giving in and letting them own it because we are scared to show and tell people why we hunt is wrong. Need to show we still enjoy hunting to win the battle we are in for our hunting rights.

Everyone,IMO comes on AR to see the pictures of hunting and rifles.If it wasn't for the pictures on the hunt reports I would not have been to Africa.I am sure the antis visit hunting sights and youtube to see the wilds of Africa through pics and videos posted by hunters.Anyone who says he does not like the pics or vids is a bullshitter.There is no doubt that these pics and videos inspire and make us dream.I cannot buy the stop posting pics argument.
I've shared some of my adventures through discussion alone with some regulars at the shooting range and they seemed very interested and asked all kinds of questions.Other shooters there have also been to Africa.That said whenever I am at the range those two or three fellows I talked to tell everyone there including the people they don't know, that I am the one who hunts elephant.

Hey Mike great to hear from you as usual.

You got any more hunting pictures to share with everyone? Your last chest beating episode did such a wonderful thing for our public image and protecting our hunting rights.

Probably a good thing for all of us that you found other things to do with your time. Enjoy.

Truth be told I still occasionally get emails with some of my old hunt trips clips in them. The photo tags show that they were taken from old emails. These were sent out to only about 15-20 friends. When I get them, folks often don’t realize I am the guy who is in the photos...

In other words, even if you shared it only with close friends, they get out there.

That’s why I think that social media (if done right- meaning put text that has context, avoid humorous photos) is no worse than anything else. I’ve put some stuff up that hits hot buttons, but it is what it is.

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Originally posted by Opus1:
Question for all - Considering the Cecil debacle and the subsequent lion ban that it largely initiated, what do you suppose would have been the outcome if there were no Social Media pictures and no Social Media postings of the event?

I ask because Cecil the freakin lion is not the first collared lion to be shot near a national park. In fact, there have been two other such instances since the freking lion was shot that never hit Social Media and no one outside of those involved ever knew happened.

So are pictures plastered all over Social Media really winning the war to protect our hunting rights?

I might remind you.

Just because Johnny Rodriguez is dead, don't think for one second that there aren't others in his position who wouldn't leak that information at the drop of the hat for their pound of flesh or gold.

Then, there are people like you who offer it up on social media (accuratereloading) like you just did in this post (and twice in this thread) for free...

Sometimes I have to wonder what you are thinking?

Maybe, instead of agonizing over what somebody may, or, may not think of my picture, you spend more time repeating the well worn WWII mantra; "Loose Lips Sink Ships"


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