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Sevens,
The hunt was on my country, up in the north between Argentina and Brazil, there are some feral buffs there.
I will ask Richard and Ed to post some pictures, I assume they are still flying

LG
 
Posts: 3085 | Location: Uruguay - South America | Registered: 10 December 2001Reply With Quote
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Hi everyone, just back from hunting water buff with AR members, Richard Powell and Edward Foden.

Sorry about the off topic but this animals are so big and dangerous that I think the people here will be the more interested in hear the story.

Richard received a full charge from a wounded buff in the tall grass from 10 metres away, the buff was stopped at 5 metres. First shot was in the open with a solid (416) that broke his shoulder. He run into thick bush with tall grass and we went after him, here was where the charge took place.

Ed buff was shot with a soft and was a perfect shot, we found it stone dead also in tall grass. Also a pretty scaring stalk.

My recomendation despite my very little experience is ALWAYS use the BIGGEST caliber you can shoot well if you want to stay in the safe side of the game.

Thanks God we are safe and for learning that there's no thing as enough gun when you are after dangerous game.

LG
 
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What country were you in, Australia? Glad to hear your all safe and had a good time. Are there any pictures? Can you give us more details on what outfitter you used? Welcome back and good hunting.

Sevens
 
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Lorenzo,

Sounds like a very memorable hunt and i am glad you guys are all ok.

Was this hunt on your new ranch?

What rifles and scopes were you guys using?

Regards,

Pete
 
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Not in my ranch, and I'll never want that creatures there!!

It was in an area of aprox. 30,000 hectareas (several farms)of swamps and thorn bush.

None of you can imagine how near of killing Richard that buff was

LG
 
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I'm looking forward to the pics of the hunt!!

By the way, I just checked out Lorenzo's web site at http://www.nitrosafaris.com/ VERY nicely done! It's worth a look if you haven't seen it.

-Bob F.
 
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Lorenzo, sounded like an exciting trip. One of these days...........
 
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BFaucett, thanks for the kind words about my wp.



475, yes, it was very exciting, the hunt we all dream, but believe me, I don't want another charge in my hole life!! seriously, seems very exciting but there's nothing funny to be there, that evening, after the excitement, we were very worried of what could had happened. We all feel that we will be able to stop a charge and we have a little romantic idea of living that, real life is quite different, and if nobody was hurt it's just because God don't allowed it.



It was just a second and the buff was there, Richard will tell it better. Maybe this night I'll be able to post a picture of Ed's buff, during Richard stalk I haven't my camera with me. Most of the time we were glassing with binos the area, I think that if the hunt continues a couple of days more, there will be feathers out of my skin because the long hours I spent on trees



I don't understand how african ph's can live doing this the hole year, too much risk for my taste. God protect them.



LG
 
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Lorenzo,

Nothing like a little charge to make you a believer in using enough gun, eh?
 
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Will,
Yes, yes and yes again!!!
Once you start the game with these animals you must be prepared for everything, and now I understand why you say that there is no thing as enough gun. The biggest bullet will make the biggest hole and will put you and your companions on the happy end side.

Because our laws is very difficult to have big bores, so we were undergunned (never again). The big bore rifle used was a 416 rigby (ruger n�1) with a leupold 1,5-5x20 and hornady bullets, they worked very well. The other guns were a 30-06 and a 300 win with solids

I've less than little experience in DG hunting, but after this hunt I'm a much more wise hunter, sometimes a few experiences teach us more than several years on the field if one is open to learn.

LG
 
Posts: 3085 | Location: Uruguay - South America | Registered: 10 December 2001Reply With Quote
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Lorenzo,

Can you tell us a little about the gun laws in Argentina? Is it difficult to bring in hunting rifles? What about handguns? Are there many restriction on gun ownership for residents? Thanks in advance for the ingo.
 
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interboat,
I live in Uruguay, a much better place on planet earth than Argentina

Sorry I can't help you correctly, but I think you don't have problems to take your big bore rifles into Argentina, I'm sure some argentinan member will be happy to help you.

LG
 
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Lorenzo,
Congratulations on surviving your first charge and on giving your clients a hunt that I am sure they will long remember. When I lived in Chaco I had some contact with the wild buff of Formosa, not too far from where you were hunting. It is my opinion that the buff from this remote northern region are more agresive than the buff from farther south. I have seen them charge a man mounted on a horse that was standing up to his belly in an estuary. Truly frightening.

Stay safe,

John
 
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John,
Thanks for your words. Maybe you can help interboat, he was searching for some info about introducing rifles into Argentina.
Take care
LG
 
Posts: 3085 | Location: Uruguay - South America | Registered: 10 December 2001Reply With Quote
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Go to this link and print out 3 copies. That is all you need for Argentina. Be sure to declare your guns at the airport when you leave the USA so that you won�t have problems with US customs when you want to take them back in.

Lorenzo,
Please tell us more. How many shots? Which gun finally brought him down? Who fired the shot that dropped him? etc.
 
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Here's the hunt report.

Hunting Reports - Rest Of The World
http://www.accuratereloading.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=633258

It's worth reading!!

-Bob F.
 
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Lorenzo,

I'm very glad to see that you are finally doing what you always wanted to do ! Looks and sounds like it was a great hunt.
 
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