Just like the title says. I have been thinking since green darting is stressful to Rhinos and in my opinion downright stupid. I would like to propose some new possibilities for a "Big 5" exportable and mountable... not like that GWB!Which would you select for replacing Rhino in Big 5 and why?PoacherCrocHippoGiant Forrest PigBlack Mamba

The hippo makes sense. It's the 3rd largest land animal, and it's also just as dangerous as any of the other "big 5" animals.

It can't be replaced; just call it the Big 4 and hope the rhino can come back.

I am for leaving the rhino as a member of the big five to remind us all of how serious poaching is...and...for shooting the damn poachers.

Rhino poachers are terrorist...should be treated the same way.

IMO, the "Big Five" will always be what it is or what it once was...Lion, Leopard, Cape buffalo,Elephant & BLACK Rhino.

However, I wouldn't mind hunting for shrunken heads of poachers as a "mountable" trophy. Hippo makes sense for a revised "Big 5", however it loses it's true authencity & purity. As ledvm mentioned, I like his idea for leaving the rhino on the list, just as a powerful reminder of how serious poaching is in Africa & hope we can bring the rhino back to healthier numbers.

Sheala Jackson Lee!

Gotta agree with Lane. Poachers should be the substitute.
Have your taxidermist check with the amazon natives on proper head treatment.

SSR

Add hippo and crock and call it the dangerous six.

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Originally posted by safari-lawyer:
Add hippo and crock and call it the dangerous six.

This is the most logical position to take within the context of the realities of the modern safari.

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Originally posted by safari-lawyer:
Add hippo and crock and call it the dangerous six.

Hippo & Croc, plus the Big 5. Wouldn't that be the Dangerous 7????

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However, I wouldn't mind hunting for shrunken heads of poachers as a "mountable" trophy.

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Have your taxidermist check with the amazon natives on proper head treatment.

CamoManJ & CrossL,

I get an amazing amount of inquiries that fall under the heading of "bizarre". However, they have enabled me to become knowledgeable on a host of arcane subjects.

So if either of you, or any other forum member, should find yourself in possession of a poacher's head, and were wondering what the procedure would be for a proper shrunken head... I recommend the following in-depth resource.

How to Prepare a Shrunken-Head

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:

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Originally posted by safari-lawyer:
Add hippo and crock and call it the dangerous six.

Hippo & Croc, plus the Big 5. Wouldn't that be the Dangerous 7????

Never was good at "showing my work" in math class. However,

Big Five - Rhino + Crock + Hippo = Dangerous Six

Why do we have to change it by adding and subracting? Leave it alone, it's what it was, not what someone wants today to be able to say they got the "Big Five" or get some SCI BS award.

To change it degrades what I did 4 decades ago.
If I had been born earlier I could have kept doing it. I cannot change when i was born. Quit trying to change it to fit your description of your ego needs. Try as yopu might, you cannot change history

Throw the rocks, I can take it!

Really, can't some things be left alone? Unless of course there is some burning desire to create a marketing opportunity. Then by all means feel free to sell out and cheapen that which has gone on before.

Jeff

Hippo on dry land with you between it and the water.

CamoManJ & CrossL,

I get an amazing amount of inquiries that fall under the heading of "bizarre". However, they have enabled me to become knowledgeable on a host of arcane subjects.

So if either of you, or any other forum member, should find yourself in possession of a poacher's head, and were wondering what the procedure would be for a proper shrunken head... I recommend the following in-depth resource.

How to Prepare a Shrunken-Head [/QUOTE]

Got it Alan

Thanks



SSR

And for the main topic,

The Big Five is unchangeable -have to have Rhino .
You couldnt substitute a Wooly Mammoth and a saber tooth tiger either.

Times change and life moves on, wish I could have hunted then but I cant.

SSR

Why change? White rhino is still huntable.

However, I would add the mountain nyala as it is about as tough to get to hunt.

Hippo

No, no, no, no, and no, again.

The past can only be remembered. It cannot be replaced.

The Big 5 will be the past, until the rhino recovers, if ever he does.

And we should all pray, but not hold our breath, for that day to come.

Until then, it will be the Big 4.

Or even fewer than four, if the odds can't be turned around.

Keep in mind, guys, that "the big 5" is a term also used by the photo safari people. Just because you can't hunt rhinos, doesn't mean they're not there. Kruger park is full of them, although they have big poaching problems there.

Let's just leave the list the way it is, and hope that both black and white rhino populations will one day rebound to huntable numbers. Personally, I think the method of injecting poison into the horn of every live rhino is a good way to try to save the species by making them worthless to poachers.

In the past, I've heard that elephant, rhino, buffalo, lion, leopard, hippo and croc were already called the dangerous 7.

I guess my next question would be why was the Hippo not included in Big 5? Certainly it is bigger than lion or leopard. Unless it was just too easy to kill......

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:

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Originally posted by safari-lawyer:
Add hippo and crock and call it the dangerous six.

Hippo & Croc, plus the Big 5. Wouldn't that be the Dangerous 7????

Exactly and the Hippo addition to the rhino, ele, lion, leopard, and buff is known already as the Big 6.

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Originally posted by Michael Robinson:
No, no, no, no, and no, again.

The past can only be remembered. It cannot be replaced.

The Big 5 will be the past, until the rhino recovers, if ever he does.

And we should all pray, but not hold our breath, for that day to come.

Until then, it will be the Big 4.

Or even fewer than four, if the odds can't be turned around.

Hear, hear!

What's wrong with a Big 4?

Not to disparage the White Rhino as a game animal, but isn't a coyote more likely to kill your kid? I don't doubt a White Rhino could take you apart, it's just that they don't seem inclined to do so.

A 'yote that's been feeding on garbage in Griffith park, on the other hand, is more likely to decide your toddler is just too juicy a chunk of meat to pass up.

I could be wrong. Can somebody come up with a list of fatalities White Rhinos are responsible for?

I think it's less than 10. If they haven't killed as many people as Bison have off'd in Yellowstone, I'd say they hardly qualify as dangerous game. Come to think of it, I think Moose have killed more people. So why prop them up as such merely to maintain the "Big" number at 5?

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Aaron Neilson:

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Originally posted by safari-lawyer:
Add hippo and crock and call it the dangerous six.

Hippo & Croc, plus the Big 5. Wouldn't that be the Dangerous 7????

Exactly and the Hippo addition to the rhino, ele, lion, leopard, and buff is known already as the Big 6.

Yep, and if you add Croc that's 7?? Or am I missing something here?

Big Five is the Big Five - Leave it at that.I don't like when we rewrite history to suit the present.If Black Rhino is no longer available,And it isn't practically, Then let's consider as the current option, THE FABULOUS FOUR!

Sounds just a little bit gay when I say it out loud.

Of all the animals on that list, the one that I least want to meet is a Mamba.

I propose, the "LOW FIVE". Black Mamba, Cobra, Adder, Gaboon and Green Mamba and/or spitting Cobra.

And no, I wouldn't do that hunt even if you Paid me!

Well, I'm not trying to rewrite history. It strikes me that's what people who are trying to elect some animal to replace the Black Rhino, to keep the sacred number at 5, are doing.

I don't want to harsh anyone's mellow; maybe the white rhino is a real terror wreaking death and destruction whereever it ranges. I just haven't heard about it.

A 5,000 pound animal with a 20 or 30 inch horn does seem to be the kind of animal that nightmares are made of.

I've just never heard of them displaying much of a 'tude.

Of course, if you weigh 5,000 pounds and have a 30 inch horn, you probably don't need to display much of a 'tude to live life on your own terms.

White Rhinos always seemed to me to be good natured brutes that like sugar cubes and a little lovin.

The Big 5 is the Big 5 -- it shouldn't and won't change.

The Dangerous 7 is there to include the Croc and the Hippo -- both fantastic hunting in my view -- but the Big 5 is the Big 5.

Not that I wouldn't welcome an open season on poachers.

Hell, let's make it the Big 8....gotta have both Rhinos to count!
The attack Chipmunk in my back yard will never qualify but he is truly a brave and ferocious beast!

Better off putting mosquito above croc.

Leave it as the big five. A constant reminder of what has been lost.

The Rhino should be left on as it will symbolize the need for continued conservation efforts and vigillence regarding poachers!

That withstanding, Rhino poaching will never end until we convince those with "Wiener-Envy-Epidemic", "WEE" for short (no pun intended) decide that overcoming a genetic "shortcoming" (oops, there I go again) is best accomplished via a little blue pill!

JW

The Big Five is what it is. Leave it alone. Same thing as to the Magnificent Seven.