THE ACCURATERELOADING.COM AFRICAN HUNTING FORUM


Moderators: Saeed
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
USA to SA / money transfer ?
 Login/Join
 
one of us
Picture of Balla Balla
posted
Guests

I dont know if it is a particular USA BANK or what is going on in the USA !!!

I have a client in TEXAS wanting to t/t a deposit to our SA Bank and they are getting the proverbial run around from their USA BANK whom want a [ 9 digit ROUTING NUMBER ] before they can effect the transaction ...

They already have the name, account number, brach code, and SWIFT CODE for the SA bank BUT no go

None of my previous clients have been asked this and they have sent money without being given that routing number.

Any advise or good information pertaining is welcome.

Regards, Peter
 
Posts: 3331 | Location: New Zealand | Registered: 27 February 2001Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
I have wired money quite a few times and had both the routing number and swift code. They also wanted a phone number of the bank in africa, and called to confirm the information before the wire. Most banks are alittle nervous about wiring money to Africa. I might add I used a small local bank.
 
Posts: 1093 | Location: Florida | Registered: 14 August 2002Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
I wire money all the time, and had to train my bank how to do it, now its a snap...problem is no USA bank will guarentee the money to get to the bank in Africa or the owner so I tell the Safari company if its lost it is there loss not mine..but I have never had any money lost...Most of my guys have a USA bank and or set up for transfer from time to time...


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com
 
Posts: 42210 | Location: Twin Falls, Idaho | Registered: 04 June 2000Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
Made numerous transfers in the last 6 months to Namibia. All I was required to produce was name of bank, name of acct. holder, account number, and swift code. They went thru perfectly. I was quoted $42 for the wire transfer each time by the local branch, but everytime it came out of my Wells Fargo account, it was only $30.
 
Posts: 1517 | Location: Idaho Falls, Idaho | Registered: 03 June 2004Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of DRB
posted Hide Post
Peter,

The routing number is not a requirement as far as I know..

I have money wired to RSA every month, and all that is required (other than the normal name, acc # branch etc) is the SWIFT number.

What may be required though is the fact the instruction should include the routing through the bank's legal entity name i.e for First National Bank in RSA my routing is as follows:
"Remit via FirstRand Bank Johannesburg to First National Bank"


Regards
Dave
 
Posts: 179 | Location: Durbanville, RSA | Registered: 15 April 2001Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Balla Balla:
Guests

I dont know if it is a particular USA BANK or what is going on in the USA !!!

I have a client in TEXAS wanting to t/t a deposit to our SA Bank and they are getting the proverbial run around from their USA BANK whom want a [ 9 digit ROUTING NUMBER ] before they can effect the transaction ...

They already have the name, account number, brach code, and SWIFT CODE for the SA bank BUT no go

None of my previous clients have been asked this and they have sent money without being given that routing number.

Any advise or good information pertaining is welcome.

Regards, Peter

__________________________________-
Peter,
If your client has access to a HKSB or ING or Barclays location, the transfer will be a zip. Fees run from ~27 - 45 $U.S. BUT and like Ray said, once they hit the key and confirm the 'send' it's your problem and your responsibility.

Good luck.
 
Posts: 1370 | Location: Home but going back. | Registered: 15 December 2003Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of Balla Balla
posted Hide Post
Dave

The mind boggles at the diversity of e-transactions and how some require the HOLY BIBLE to make a transfer and others the basics ...

It is patently obvious to me at least that the banking/financial industry is not very efficient and dont have standard proceedures in place, or some branches have staff whom dont know sh.t from clay Mad

The particular client is using [Community Credit Union] and they spoke as well with Washington Mutual and Bank One and both said that they had to have the 9 digit ROUTING NUMBER !

SO I guess I must bow down and go back to the SA bank and get that routing code.

Peter
 
Posts: 3331 | Location: New Zealand | Registered: 27 February 2001Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of Mike_Dettorre
posted Hide Post
All,

This is a common issue. There is what is called an intermediary bank in the US. many banks require it for the transfer.

The destination bank needs to provide the name of the US intermediary bank and the interemediary banks ABA routing number.


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10163 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Balla Balla:
Dave

The mind boggles at the diversity of e-transactions and how some require the HOLY BIBLE to make a transfer and others the basics ...

It is patently obvious to me at least that the banking/financial industry is not very efficient and dont have standard proceedures in place, or some branches have staff whom dont know sh.t from clay Mad

The particular client is using [Community Credit Union] and they spoke as well with Washington Mutual and Bank One and both said that they had to have the 9 digit ROUTING NUMBER !

SO I guess I must bow down and go back to the SA bank and get that routing code.

Peter

__________

- Peter,
If it's a Credit Union, it will be very difficult to do and if he can do it at all, it will most likely require a transfer from that branch to the main location, then onward. He needs to open a "Bank" account to expedite it.

That's been my experience, fwiw.
 
Posts: 1370 | Location: Home but going back. | Registered: 15 December 2003Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
Peter: Credit Unions will probably not be able to do the transaction without the routing number. Wells Fargo asked me for a routing number when I wired money to you guys, and I told them they didn't need it. After the local dumbass talked to the headquarters, no problem.


JD
 
Posts: 1450 | Location: Dakota Territory | Registered: 13 June 2000Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of Mike_Dettorre
posted Hide Post
Guys,

Credit Unions can do it just fine. You are making a whole lot of nothing. Whenever I wire money and don't have all the complete information I just go to the destination banks website and send them an email. I usually get a reply in less than 24 hours with any info I needed.


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10163 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
<kram>
posted
Sounds like some dumb-ass. My bank found any additional info they needed on the web.
 
Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of Balla Balla
posted Hide Post
Well the plot thickens ...

This is what the ( Community Credit Union ) now also need:

1) The 9 digit ABA routing number, or routing transit number (RTN) whatever the banks call it !

2) The intermediary New York Bank and their particular details as applicable to effect the transfer

Next thing they will ask about the name of the MONKEY booking the hunt beer

Happy holidays !!! Peter
 
Posts: 3331 | Location: New Zealand | Registered: 27 February 2001Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of Mike_Dettorre
posted Hide Post
Peter,

That is all very common...your destination bamk should be able to tell you that ingo in about 10 seconds.


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10163 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
one of us
posted Hide Post
I've wired money to RSA and Namibia from my Credit union with no problems at all.
 
Posts: 1539 | Location: NC | Registered: 10 June 2002Reply With Quote
One Of Us
Picture of new_guy
posted Hide Post
I'm sure these new found difficulties/details in transferring money abroad are part of the "Patriot Act."


www.heymusa.com


HSC Booth # 306
SCI Booth # 3947
 
Posts: 4025 | Registered: 28 May 2004Reply With Quote
One of Us
Picture of Mike_Dettorre
posted Hide Post
New Guy not at all...has nothing to do with Patriot Act. Many banks have required it for years.

People were often not aware becuase the banks used to handle it internally...now they just put the onus on the customer to get all the information. Its not really a big deal.


Mike

Legistine actu quod scripsi?

Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
Posts: 10163 | Location: Loving retirement in Boise, ID | Registered: 16 December 2003Reply With Quote
one of us
Picture of Balla Balla
posted Hide Post
Guests,

Thanks for all the feedback, I am getting ready to say BINGO ...

Our [Standard Chartered Bank] in SA indicate they (do not utilise a routing number) however they need the following information:-

Customer's name
Customer's Banking details
Standard Bank Swift Code

The SA Bank also ADVISE that the two Banks they mainly deal with in New York are;

1) Standard Chartered New York

2) Bank of New York.

They also say ....

Although the USA Bank that the customer utilises to effect transfer may not have arrangements with either one of the above NY Banks, these NY Banks will have (instructions of which Bank to utilise) to process the transaction through to the bank in SA.

SO all things being equal the transaction will now proceed on the basis as outlined.

Wonderful Wonderful ... Peter
 
Posts: 3331 | Location: New Zealand | Registered: 27 February 2001Reply With Quote
  Powered by Social Strata  
 


Copyright December 1997-2023 Accuratereloading.com


Visit our on-line store for AR Memorabilia

Since January 8 1998 you are visitor #: