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Over before it starts?
29 September 2013, 16:12
shakariOver before it starts?
Has Dogleg & his bags arrived safe & sound in Jo'burg?
29 September 2013, 16:42
Jorge400Andrew,
Good for you for stepping up to help sort this out. As Steve asked, wasn't Charl to arrange Dogleg's flight to Moz? I would check to see if Dogleg is booked on a flight to one of the appointed destinations. If he is it stands to reason that Charl made the arrangement and is expecting him to arrive on that flight. I realize arriving with a firearm is a big concern however.
Good luck,
George
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29 September 2013, 17:08
Matt GrahamGood on you guys for helping Mike out!! Hope it works out for you mate...

29 September 2013, 17:10
D R HunterI know this thread is not about illness or tragedy,
but I've sent up a prayer for the trip to work out.
God is perfectly fine with ethical, lawful hunting;
it says so in his rule book...

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29 September 2013, 18:25
ChrisTroskiequote:
Originally posted by shakari:
Has Dogleg & his bags arrived safe & sound in Jo'burg?
I was on the phone with Andrew as Mike entered the Firearms Office this morning around 8:30. He is safely in SA and in good hands with Andrew. Haven't heard from Andrew since but I assume Mike's luggage and gun arrived safely as well.
29 September 2013, 18:32
shakariThanks Chris....... that's the first hurdle over & done with!

29 September 2013, 21:36
DLSI can't recall any safari that so many of us have been following live, other than Saeed's annual pilgrimages with the Vincents, that has caught our collective attention. Would be great if Dogleg could provide some reports as his safari progresses.
I have a feeling he's going to enjoy an epic safari once he arrives safely in camp.
29 September 2013, 21:52
Andrew McLarenThis is Dogleg posting on Andrews computer.
Thanks for the support and suggestions and generous offers of help so far. There are ideas and offers behind the scenes that are quite overwhelming, but I still have to sort things out with Charl if possible.
For the record, Charl hasn't been able to to contact me by email, and we can't get him on his sat.
29 September 2013, 22:10
BiebsIf there's a MacDonalds in Jo'berg, that would be a good place to start :-)
29 September 2013, 22:35
Bill73Biebster,
I just spilled my damn coffee lol!
DRSS
29 September 2013, 23:24
ScriptusGo with Luan's offer and the hell with the rest.
Andrew and the rest of the SA guys, what a bright spot in the World right now. Damn, it makes me a proud Saffa.

30 September 2013, 02:06
shakariDogleg
Hope you get sorted out but if you do end up going to Luan's you'd better take a spare liver or pace yourself..... that bloke soaks it up like a sponge!

30 September 2013, 07:17
Matt GrahamSo... what news? Is he off to Moz?

30 September 2013, 07:34
jdollarthis whole thread restores my faith in my fellow man- at least those that hunt

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30 September 2013, 08:01
timg953I have to agree with scriptus and shakari. Luan saved a hunt for me a couple of years ago. He is a great host and I am happy to call him a friend. Btw, you should not try to keep up, Luan has two elephant livers and they are calibrated for south african brandy. A man could do far worse than hunting with Luan and Tshabalahla ( greatest land cruiser jockey in all of Africa).
30 September 2013, 09:14
NakihunterWow!
I am blown away by this generosity from so many! But not entirely surprised.
18 months ago I was thinking of going to SA on work for a few days. I was asking some questions about small game / bird hunting in summer. Andrew popped up and said that he would try to get a special off-season license for me! He even got that organised on a visit to town though my trip was not confirmed!
Amazing support!

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30 September 2013, 11:11
RockdocThis is a great result and reinforces my faith in the strength of fellowship in AR.
Imagine if you had gone on faith to JNB in this situation without the wonderful support of AR?
Good hunting. Chris
DRSS
30 September 2013, 12:05
Andrew McLarenThis is Dogleg posting on Andrews computer:
We have been in contact with Charl this morning and something will be worked out, perhaps today.From here its just details,something will work out.
I'd like to again thank everyone for the help, offers of help and well wishes. Andrew has proven to be a godsend, without him I'd be a lost white guy in Africa. Not a great feeling.
Without the support of AR I may well have been beat. The way the forum responded to my distress flare is inspiring.
Mike
30 September 2013, 12:35
7MMNutBeen following this thread and am glad this seems to have worked out for you, have a great hunt!
Kudos to Andrew for helping out.
30 September 2013, 13:59
Matt Grahamquote:
Originally posted by 7MMNut:
Been following this thread and am glad this seems to have worked out for you, have a great hunt!
Kudos to Andrew for helping out.

30 September 2013, 14:49
ChrisTroskiequote:
Originally posted by Matt Graham:
quote:
Originally posted by 7MMNut:
Been following this thread and am glad this seems to have worked out for you, have a great hunt!
Kudos to Andrew for helping out.
Kudos to Andrew indeed!
He hasn't mentioned this to anyone (and probably wouldn't either) but I'm going to do this anyway.
In spite of having urgent business to attend to more than 150 miles away from JNB, he diverted without hesitation to JNB when he read about Mike's distress.
True character from a real gentleman!
30 September 2013, 16:33
Brian Clarkquote:
Originally posted by ChrisTroskie:
quote:
Originally posted by Matt Graham:
quote:
Originally posted by 7MMNut:
Been following this thread and am glad this seems to have worked out for you, have a great hunt!
Kudos to Andrew for helping out.
Kudos to Andrew indeed!
He hasn't mentioned this to anyone (and probably wouldn't either) but I'm going to do this anyway.
In spite of having urgent business to attend to more than 150 miles away from JNB, he diverted without hesitation to JNB when he read about Mike's distress.
True character from a real gentleman!
What a bunch of great guys, hats off to you guys for saving this safari. It should be quite the hunt report to read when it's all over.
30 September 2013, 17:34
scruffyGood on you, Andrew for helping out this gentleman. I hunted with Andrew a few years ago and it doesn't surprise me that he came to the rescue ... Ol' Charl, however, has some mighty big explaining to do, I reckon ...
30 September 2013, 18:18
MJinesSurely there are some lessons to be learned from this thread . . .
Glad it all seems to be working itself out, but it absolutely never should have happened.
Mike
30 September 2013, 18:24
Rockdocquote:
Originally posted by scruffy:
Good on you, Andrew for helping out this gentleman. I hunted with Andrew a few years ago and it doesn't surprise me that he came to the rescue ... Ol' Charl, however, has some mighty big explaining to do, I reckon ...
imagine if he'd turned up at jnb on faith alone. Pretty disappointing eh!
DRSS
30 September 2013, 18:50
samirquote:
Originally posted by MJines:
Surely there are some lessons to be learned from this thread . . .
Glad it all seems to be working itself out, but it absolutely never should have happened.
+1
DRSS
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30 September 2013, 19:03
Lhook7quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
Surely there are some lessons to be learned from this thread . . .
Glad it all seems to be working itself out, but it absolutely never should have happened.
I completely agree. It appears we have seen both the best and worst from outfitters on this thread. Andrew McLaren is a true gentleman!
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30 September 2013, 19:29
Andrew McLarenBy now I feel so confident that I'll say: "Problem solved!" Mike is with me, guns intact and present , ammo not lost, all bags with him. Aslo spoke to Charl a few times by satellite phone and Mike has confirmed tickets for the correct flight to Maputo and on to Quelimane. I'm disappointed that we could not do better!
My personal thanks to all who jumped in and offered help! Please remember that AR is not the only avenue through which help was offered: I received many calls from AR and other friends, and some people that I hardly know at all. The offers of free hospitality, free services as PH and free trophy animals totally overwhelmed me! I can only imagine how astounded Mike was when I every so often I would tell him what a cellphone conversation [held in Afrikaans] was about - more free offers from good guys!
That's all for now. Many thanks again!
Andrew McLarenProfessional Hunter and Hunting Outfitter since 1974.
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Today I still hunt! 30 September 2013, 19:40
Andrew McLarenThanks a lot for all who pitched in to help and make very generous offers, both by cellphone and via AR.
The good news, no, make that the very good news, is that Mike is set to fly the Maputo and Quelimane early tomorrow. All arranged.
That's all for now.
Andrew McLarenProfessional Hunter and Hunting Outfitter since 1974.
http://www.mclarensafaris.com The home page to go to for custom planning of ethical and affordable hunting of plains game in South Africa!
Enquire about any South African hunting directly from
andrew@mclarensafaris.com After a few years of participation on forums, I have learned that:One can cure: Lack of knowledge – by instruction. Lack of skills – by practice. Lack of experience – by time doing it.
One cannot cure:Stupidity – nothing helps! Anti hunting sentiments – nothing helps! Put-‘n-Take Outfitters – money rules!
My very long ago ancestors needed and loved to eat meat.
Today I still hunt! 30 September 2013, 20:01
JTEXOutstanding! You South African guys are just outstanding.
Wonder what the deal is with Charl......this is a major stuff up.
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30 September 2013, 20:07
L. David KeithGlad this all got sorted out. Not many places on earth would you find this kind of help from strangers. Just goes to show how the hunting community will come together to help a fellow in need, whether it's with information, guidance or money. We are a unique brand of human being. Cheers, LDK
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30 September 2013, 20:16
Matt P.Rather new to this forum, at least on posting vs. just learning. I am so very impressed with the community and support on this event. I have never met Andrew, but will certainly look him up for a future trip to South Africa.
This is so cool.....and as others have said, restores my faith in the community of Hunters, and the great people who stepped up to help out.
30 September 2013, 20:34
MolepololeWhat a great community of guys we have here, and you SA guys are just the best! Andrew, you are a class act!!!
30 September 2013, 20:36
David HulmeWell done chaps, good show.

30 September 2013, 20:38
INTREPID SAFARISGlad it all worked out have a great safari Dogleg!
30 September 2013, 20:38
505 gibbsI would hope those involved who took time out of their lives and cost out of their pockets are going to send Charl @ Infinito a bill, + profit of course.
30 September 2013, 20:55
tygersmanGreat job to all involved - another example of why this site and many of the folks that frequent it are first class.
30 September 2013, 21:20
Blacktailerquote:
Originally posted by tygersman:
Great job to all involved - another example of why this site and many of the folks that frequent it are first class.
+1

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30 September 2013, 21:21
CaracalWell done guys

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30 September 2013, 22:41
txlonghornquote:
Originally posted by 505 gibbs:
I would hope those involved who took time out of their lives and cost out of their pockets are going to send Charl @ Infinito a bill, + profit of course.
Whoa! Seems like there's at least two people involved here not just Charl and as always at least five sides to every story. Anyways cheers to Andrew and the the folks in South Africa for stepping up.