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Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
Andrew,

incorrect or not that sounds very ominous even though we both know leopards are very common particularly on the river systems in Zambia.

Mark

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Originally posted by MARK H. YOUNG:
Andrew,

incorrect or not that sounds very ominous even though we both know leopards are very common particularly on the river systems in Zambia.

Mark

The Ambassador here is passionate about wildlife but not up to scratch on the relationship that hunting has with rural communities.

My advise would be for the US to look at protecting our Parks first and foremost and us hunters will look after the rest.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Guys I am here to tell you that if Hillary Clinton is elected POTUS...The Clinton Foundation will shut down all Big Five hunting except maybe the buffalo and they are already using their influence to start it under Obama.

While there is hope with any Republican if elected...there is one sure choice to reign in the USF&WS and that is Trump...his sons will personally help revise the USF&W and their aim towards Africa.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Guys I am here to tell you that if Hillary Clinton is elected POTUS...The Clinton Foundation will shut down all Big Five hunting except maybe the buffalo and they are already using their influence to start it under Obama.

While there is hope with any Republican if elected...there is one sure choice to reign in the USF&WS and that is Trump...his sons will personally help revise the USF&W and their aim towards Africa.

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Originally posted by Cajun1956:
The USF&W Service recently removed the gray wolf (except for the Great Lakes region) and the Louisiana black bear from the U.S. Endangered Species Act (ESA). De-listing means that the states (where these populations exist) are now responsible for managing their populations (including sustainable hunting, if applicable). Earlier this year, they proposed removing the Yellowstone population of grizzly bear from the ESA as well. During the same time period, the USF&W Service added the African elephant and lion to the U.S. Endangered Species Act. The USF&W Service's "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" approach to wildlife conservation implies (from their perspective) that Africans are incapable of protecting and conserving their wildlife. (IMO)

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Originally posted by Svinejakt:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Guys I am here to tell you that if Hillary Clinton is elected POTUS...The Clinton Foundation will shut down all Big Five hunting except maybe the buffalo and they are already using their influence to start it under Obama.

While there is hope with any Republican if elected...there is one sure choice to reign in the USF&WS and that is Trump...his sons will personally help revise the USF&W and their aim towards Africa.

Quote DJT:
"I'm not a hunter and don't approve of killing animals. I strongly disagree with my sons who are hunters, but they acted legally and did what lots of hunters do."
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Mark my words...if Hillary Clinton becomes the POTUS...Safari Hunting of the elephant, lion, leopard, and rhino is history.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Svinejakt:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Guys I am here to tell you that if Hillary Clinton is elected POTUS...The Clinton Foundation will shut down all Big Five hunting except maybe the buffalo and they are already using their influence to start it under Obama.

While there is hope with any Republican if elected...there is one sure choice to reign in the USF&WS and that is Trump...his sons will personally help revise the USF&W and their aim towards Africa.

Quote DJT:
"I'm not a hunter and don't approve of killing animals. I strongly disagree with my sons who are hunters, but they acted legally and did what lots of hunters do."
Thread on subject

Sir,
Since you live in Norway...it may never have any effect on you...but who becomes POTUS...will effect American Citizen's ability to hunt in Africa.

As an officer of an organization (Lion Conservation Task Force Inc) which worked hard to keep African Lions Huntable (see our response here or in the public record section of USF&W website)...I can tell you I have thoroughly vetted the Republican candidates. While we may be able to eventually get Cruz to help...he has no vested interest in hunting...especially African Hunting. Certainly a President Cruz would be better than a President Clinton with a known agenda. That said however...I am not sure a President Kasich would be any better than Clinton as it pertains to hunting Africa.

This all said...Donald J Trump has vowed to let Don Trump Jr be his advisor on matters concerning USF&W. Don Jr who is a dedicated hunter and dedicated Safari Hunter...including elephant, leopard, and lion...has publically said several time now that should his father be president...he looks forward to working with the issues concerning the USF&W.

I can also tell you that both Don Jr and Eric Trump are even members of this site.

Wouldn't it be refreshing to have a POTUS with actual positive ties to hunting.

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Mark my words...if Hillary Clinton becomes the POTUS...Safari Hunting of the elephant, lion, leopard, and rhino is history.

For Americans that is.

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Originally posted by Svinejakt:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Svinejakt:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Guys I am here to tell you that if Hillary Clinton is elected POTUS...The Clinton Foundation will shut down all Big Five hunting except maybe the buffalo and they are already using their influence to start it under Obama.

While there is hope with any Republican if elected...there is one sure choice to reign in the USF&WS and that is Trump...his sons will personally help revise the USF&W and their aim towards Africa.

Quote DJT:
"I'm not a hunter and don't approve of killing animals. I strongly disagree with my sons who are hunters, but they acted legally and did what lots of hunters do."
Thread on subject

Sir,
Since you live in Norway...it may never have any effect on you...but who becomes POTUS...will effect American Citizen's ability to hunt in Africa.

As an officer of an organization (Lion Conservation Task Force Inc) which worked hard to keep African Lions Huntable (see our response here or in the public record section of USF&W website)...I can tell you I have thoroughly vetted the Republican candidates. While we may be able to eventually get Cruz to help...he has no vested interest in hunting...especially African Hunting. Certainly a President Cruz would be better than a President Clinton with a known agenda. That said however...I am not sure a President Kasich would be any better than Clinton as it pertains to hunting Africa.

This all said...Donald J Trump has vowed to let Don Trump Jr be his advisor on matters concerning USF&W. Don Jr who is a dedicated hunter and dedicated Safari Hunter...including elephant, leopard, and lion...has publically said several time now that should his father be president...he looks forward to working with the issues concerning the USF&W.

I can also tell you that both Don Jr and Eric Trump are even members of this site.

Wouldn't it be refreshing to have a POTUS with actual positive ties to hunting.

Sir,
First things first. I know you are an officer of the Lion Conservation Task Force Inc. Why, because I supported you wholeheartedly in your efforts in evolving the standards of lion hunting and thus the conservation of Lions. For me that was the logical way to go and just plain common sense. Not to appease the anti-hunters, but to show the ordinary people that hunters are foremost conservationist. We also can evolve to better standards as time goes along. That is also why I support the end of canned Lion hunting in RSA. It should never have started and is PR disaster for every hunter around.

While we then are talking about logic and common sense, I can`t see why you chose to support DJT. You say you have vetted the republican candidates, how can you when he never makes a stand and sticks to his guns. He has changed his mind more times than my better half while shopping for a purse. He has offended more people and groups than any candidate before him. Him becoming a president is singled out as one of the top ten threats to the world. He has also said that he wants to kill terrorists families, non-combantant innocent families. Here I even know you support that, so no symopathy from you. Even though this is the best recruting tool for jihadist from around the world. Probably will be the start of world war 3.

But I digress, it`s hard to talk about this without talking about other MORE problematic areas. If he becomes president, I hope you are right. I hope he takes his sons advice and we can finally go in another smarter direction when it comes to hunting Africa. I can`t think of an election you have had worse candidates for POTUS. I wished that your election didn`t mean so much for the rest of the world, but if the last 20 years have taught us anything, IT means everything

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Svinejakt:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Svinejakt:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Guys I am here to tell you that if Hillary Clinton is elected POTUS...The Clinton Foundation will shut down all Big Five hunting except maybe the buffalo and they are already using their influence to start it under Obama.

While there is hope with any Republican if elected...there is one sure choice to reign in the USF&WS and that is Trump...his sons will personally help revise the USF&W and their aim towards Africa.

Quote DJT:
"I'm not a hunter and don't approve of killing animals. I strongly disagree with my sons who are hunters, but they acted legally and did what lots of hunters do."
Thread on subject

Sir,
Since you live in Norway...it may never have any effect on you...but who becomes POTUS...will effect American Citizen's ability to hunt in Africa.

As an officer of an organization (Lion Conservation Task Force Inc) which worked hard to keep African Lions Huntable (see our response here or in the public record section of USF&W website)...I can tell you I have thoroughly vetted the Republican candidates. While we may be able to eventually get Cruz to help...he has no vested interest in hunting...especially African Hunting. Certainly a President Cruz would be better than a President Clinton with a known agenda. That said however...I am not sure a President Kasich would be any better than Clinton as it pertains to hunting Africa.

This all said...Donald J Trump has vowed to let Don Trump Jr be his advisor on matters concerning USF&W. Don Jr who is a dedicated hunter and dedicated Safari Hunter...including elephant, leopard, and lion...has publically said several time now that should his father be president...he looks forward to working with the issues concerning the USF&W.

I can also tell you that both Don Jr and Eric Trump are even members of this site.

Wouldn't it be refreshing to have a POTUS with actual positive ties to hunting.

Sir,
First things first. I know you are an officer of the Lion Conservation Task Force Inc. Why, because I supported you wholeheartedly in your efforts in evolving the standards of lion hunting and thus the conservation of Lions. For me that was the logical way to go and just plain common sense. Not to appease the anti-hunters, but to show the ordinary people that hunters are foremost conservationist. We also can evolve to better standards as time goes along. That is also why I support the end of canned Lion hunting in RSA. It should never have started and is PR disaster for every hunter around.

While we then are talking about logic and common sense, I can`t see why you chose to support DJT. You say you have vetted the republican candidates, how can you when he never makes a stand and sticks to his guns. He has changed his mind more times than my better half while shopping for a purse. He has offended more people and groups than any candidate before him. Him becoming a president is singled out as one of the top ten threats to the world. He has also said that he wants to kill terrorists families, non-combantant innocent families. Here I even know you support that, so no symopathy from you. Even though this is the best recruting tool for jihadist from around the world. Probably will be the start of world war 3.

But I digress, it`s hard to talk about this without talking about other MORE problematic areas. If he becomes president, I hope you are right. I hope he takes his sons advice and we can finally go in another smarter direction when it comes to hunting Africa. I can`t think of an election you have had worse candidates for POTUS. I wished that your election didn`t mean so much for the rest of the world, but if the last 20 years have taught us anything, IT means everything

Sir,
You are correct...it does mean everything. And while I am being selfish a bit it my desire to have a "hunting friendly" POTUS in DJT...my main motives for my passion for man stem from being the principle shareholder and CEO of 4 small corporations and watching them struggle and be burdened heavily since 2009.

But since this is the African Hunting Forum...I was limiting my comments to African Hunting. Don Jr and Eric Trump will be great friends to hunters. And, under a DJT admin...the USF&W will, for the first time in modern history, become under the scrutiny of REAL hunter/conservationists.

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under a DJT admin...the USF&W will, for the first time in modern history, become under the scrutiny of REAL hunter/conservationists.

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Originally posted by fairgame:

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Mark my words...if Hillary Clinton becomes the POTUS...Safari Hunting of the elephant, lion, leopard, and rhino is history.

For Americans that is.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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under a DJT admin...the USF&W will, for the first time in modern history, become under the scrutiny of REAL hunter/conservationists.

Svinejakt,
I stand heavily behind my comment above.

And I meant no disrespect as united we stand but separate we lose.

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Originally posted by Svinejakt:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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under a DJT admin...the USF&W will, for the first time in modern history, become under the scrutiny of REAL hunter/conservationists.

Svinejakt,
I stand heavily behind my comment above.

And I meant no disrespect as united we stand but separate we lose.

Like I said earlier Lane, hope you are right Just a bit more skeptical Probably a lot could be solved by just having a beer instead of fighting

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Svinejakt:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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under a DJT admin...the USF&W will, for the first time in modern history, become under the scrutiny of REAL hunter/conservationists.

Svinejakt,
I stand heavily behind my comment above.

And I meant no disrespect as united we stand but separate we lose.

Like I said earlier Lane, hope you are right Just a bit more skeptical Probably a lot could be solved by just having a beer instead of fighting

Exactly!

I'll buy the first round!

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Originally posted by Svinejakt:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Svinejakt:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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under a DJT admin...the USF&W will, for the first time in modern history, become under the scrutiny of REAL hunter/conservationists.

Svinejakt,
I stand heavily behind my comment above.

And I meant no disrespect as united we stand but separate we lose.

Like I said earlier Lane, hope you are right Just a bit more skeptical Probably a lot could be solved by just having a beer instead of fighting

Exactly!

I'll buy the first round!

Sounds good, I`ll give you a shout if I ever get to your parts You do the same!! Cheers!

Thought about something earlier today. Even how much we quarrel on the political forum. I would share a camp and some beers with everyone here with a big smile!