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I am going to RSA next year, and have been thinking on bringing my 358 winchester. Will a 250gr Nosler Partition bullet at 2400fps be sufficient for hunting eland and zebra? Have anybody used the 358 win for game this size? | ||
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Those ballistics are not much different than a 9.3x74...a very successful African caliber. Take it and have fun! | |||
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Assuming you put the bullet in the right place, you'll be just tickety boo.  | |||
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Thanks for the input guys! My 358 win is a custom job, built around an old Brno ZKK 601 Action. The action is produced in -75 and has the "pop up" peep sight in the rear bridge. The stock fits me like a glove, and points like a fine shotgun. My plan is to use the peep sight for close up shots. The gun also has a Kahles 3-9x42 scope in Talley QR-mounts. This is the rifle I use the most during the hunting season, and I have good confidense in it. If you guys think it will do the job on the bigger plains game, I will bring my "workhorse" to Africa  | |||
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I used my browning BLR in 358 win with 225 grn partitions to take kudu, Zebra, and waterbuck without a hitch. The nosler is a good tough bullet and will do the trick. With respect to getting 2400 fps with a 250 partition out of a 358 win, that is a lot to ask from that case. Most of the load data is closer to 2250-2270. However, the 9,3x62 standard load is a 286 grn bullet at 2350-2400 fps and I would refer you to rule 2 below. Take your 358 win punch a hole thru both lungs of the eland and enjoy eland steaks. Mike Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I hope you have confirmed your Chronograph is accurate - my experience with the 358 Win is 2400 fps with 225 gr bullets in a 20 inch barrel. I also shoot a 9.3X62 but have not hunted Africa. I remember reading a book by Charles Askin many years ago in which he covered his hunting experiences of the 1950s in SE Asia and Africa. I think he took a Savage 99 in 358 Win to Africa just when the cartridge was introduced and shot Zebra and other big game with it. Good luck on your trip "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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If you shoot well with the rifle, and restrict ranges to within 200 metres, then have at it! | |||
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If Jack O'Connor's wife Eleanor could knock over 17 head of African game up to the largest hoofed animals on the spot with 19 shots (she put 2 extra shots into a heart shot Kudu to anchor it) using 160gr Sierra bullets from a 7x57, then I'm sure all us red blooded males should be able to emulate that with any good deer rifle. If not then we need to get out and learn to shoot straight before concerning ourselves over the calibre and weight of bullet to use in Africa. Maral take your 358Win, place your shots properly, and enjoy yourself. | |||
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Maral think you will enjoy the eland hunting! | |||
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I think my chronograph is pretty accurate. My 358 Win has a 25" barrel, and reaches 2350-2400fps with 250gr bullets and Vithavuori N530 powder without problems. Donner, I am really looking forward to hunt eland. I bet we will have å great time, hunting with Jaco at www.matswanesafaris.com | |||
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I shot a very large Eland with a .340 Weatherby with a Barnes .225 bullet at 225 yards. Great trophy. Hunted with Broker Safari. No problem except walking in the mountains. | |||
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That should be perfect. Eland holds the #1 spot in my heart for best plains game animal. I could hunt Eland every day on safari. | |||
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I've shot 5 eland with the .338 250gr TSX and never had a problem. The eland will always run a short distance then pile up. Shoot just on the back of the front leg about 1/3 of the way up the body and it's a dead eland. Good luck. MMP | |||
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It will be a crusher. Don't be surprised on a pass thru on the zebra. Hold where you would place the bullet and you know what happens.. Good shooting. Mike | |||
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