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Aussie Thrown Out of Convention Over Hate Campaign Against Zim



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The Herald (Harare)

April 3, 2002
Posted to the web April 3, 2002

Wisdom Mdzungairi


AN Australian, Mr Bob Penfold, was last week bundled out of the largest hunting convention in the United States after he launched a hate campaign against Zimbabwe and tried to dissuade hunters from visiting the country.

This follows a continuous campaign by the Australian government among the white Commonwealth members of New Zealand, Canada and Britain to suspend Zimbabwe from the 54-member grouping.

The Australian Prime Minister, Mr John Howard, yesterday said he would use his trip to Britain next week, for the funeral of the Queen Mother, to discuss Zimbabwe with the leaders of Canada, New Zealand and the Commonwealth.

Mr Howard said he believed pressure would grow on organisers of the Commonwealth Games to ban Zimbabwe from the event in Manchester in July but stressed individual countries could not stop Zimbabwe from taking part.

Mr Howard said he had already spoken to New Zealand Prime Minister Ms Helen Clark and hoped that if Canadian Prime Minister Mr Jean Chretien also attended the royal funeral, the three nations could discuss possible future Commonwealth action on Zimbabwe.

"(Clark and I) agreed to get together in London and if Jean Chretien, the Canadian Prime Minister is there, which I think is very likely, we'll probably have a meeting the three of us, perhaps with the Commonwealth secretary-general to talk further about Zimbabwe," Mr Howard said. Ms Clark wants Zimbabwe excluded from the Commonwealth Games but Canada has dismissed that call. Mr Howard said it was a decision, which could only be made by the Commonwealth Games Federation.

"We cannot as governments, not in our kind of free society, stop people from coming. But I wouldn't be surprised if pressure for that grows," Mr Howard said.

Mr Howard was part of a three-nation Commonwealth troika which met in London last month to suspend Zimbabwe.

Mr Penfold, a co-director of Hunt Australia (Pvt) Ltd and Hunt New Zealand Safaris Ltd took the Australian campaign to the United States where he tried to influence Safari Club International to stop hunters from coming to Zimbabwe.

He was however, hauled before the Safari Club International hunting ethics committee where he faces possible life banishment from attending future hunting conventions.

In addition, he risks losing his membership from the 40 000-strong largest hunting grouping for bringing the convention into disrepute.

If banned, it means that he would not be allowed to do any business with any member of the Safari Club International anywhere in the world and this could spell doom to his business empire in Australia and New Zealand.

Australia has repeatedly said it would keep open the option of imposing sanctions on Zimbabwe but ruled out immediate unilateral action following the re-election last month of President Mugabe and the suspension of Zimbabwe from the Commonwealth councils.

Mr Penfold claimed in his e-mail and fax notices to safari hunting agents worldwide that President Mugabe "has made it clear that he cannot guarantee the safety of visitors to Zimbabwe" soon after his re-election in the presidential election.

"Notice to All agents . . . We have just been made aware of the cancellation of flights and hunts in Zimbabwe. President Mugabe has made it clear that he cannot guarantee the safety of visitors to Zimbabwe.

"Hunt Australia (Pvt) Ltd and Hunt New Zealand Safaris Ltd would like to offer you our services. If you have been affected by

the situation in Zimbabwe, we will be happy to assist you in putting together an alternative hunting package to the South Pacific for your clients.

"We still have excellent buffalo hunting opportunities available, and we are able to handle groups of hunters during periods between late May and early September 2002.

"Remember . . . Australia and New Zealand are the safest countries in the world. If you have not previously considered the South Pacific as a hunting destination, we look forward to helping you realise the potential in this area," wrote Mr Penfold and Mr John Berry, his co-director.

After receiving the hate mail, a US safari agent Mr Wendell Reich of Hunters' Quest International blew the whistle on Mr Penfold when he approached a Zimbabwean safari operator, Mr Jan Strauss of Beitbridge.

Mr Reich asked: "Is this just a new marketing campaign for Bob (Penfold) or is there something going on?"

Irked by the falsehood in the e-mail and its intended goal, the Zimbabwe Wildlife and Tourism Advisory Council chairman, Mr Ed Kadzombe, and Zimbabwe Association of Tour and Safari Operators chief Mr George Pangeti and other tour operators nearly manhandled Mr Penfold.

However, SCI security quickly moved in, restrained the Zimbabwe safari operators, and whisked him away to a disciplinary hearing.

The Minister of Environment and Tourism, Cde Francis Nhema, who was leading the delegation, held a meeting with the SCI ethics committee and visited several agents allaying their fears.

The SCI also made announcements to the effect that Mr Penfold had lied about Zimbabwe.

Mr Penfold was ordered to apologise in writing for his unprofessional conduct to Zimbabwe safari and tourism operators and agents worldwide.

It was an embarrassing moment for Mr Penfold when his apology was sent to all agents and the convention daily news up date.

In his apology he claimed to have been advised by "several of his former clients that there had been announcements that non-Zimbabwe residents' lives were no longer guaranteed by the Zimbabwe Government and that there were travel warnings announced.

"My reaction was to e-mail my hunt booking agents to advise them that we had plenty of very good hunting opportunities available and that if the clients who had booked for Zimbabwe were concerned, we could be happy to attend to a hunting arrangement in Australia or New Zealand for them.

"The Zimbabwe Government officials attending the convention now advise me that the reports were not true. I hereby apologise for any inconvenience that I may have caused in this matter," Mr Penfold said.

Cde Nhema said hunters were welcome in Zimbabwe, adding that there was a special police protection unit to protect tourists.

Cde Nhema said it was disgraceful for business people to embark on hate campaigns in an effort to increase income receipts.

A US attorney and a friend of Zimbabwe, Mr Leo Grizzaffi, said Zimbabwean businesses could sue Mr Penfold for possible business loss resulting from his unethical business conduct.

Mr Pangeti, who is a senior SCI advisor on conservation and policy on Southern Africa, said the executive committee would soon hand down its judgment on the issue.

The latest move comes after another similar campaign by British Airways, which since last year discouraged its British customers to travel with sporting firearms claiming they were prohibited in Zimbabwe.

A travel agent, Wiltshire Deer Services, in January, told SCI, " myself (M. A. Brackstone) and two others are intending to go to Zimbabwe in June, after the elections. British Airways have recommended that we do not travel with sporting firearms, as Zimbabwe is not allowing any arms whatsoever into the country."

During the convention, the SCI produced material to the effect that sport hunting provided a major source of funding for wildlife and habitat conservation.

Projects such as Communal Areas Management Programme for Indigenous Resources (Campfire) relied on direct methods of distributing wildlife benefits to individual and corporate landowners in cash or infrastructural developments, said SCI.

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Sounds like Mr Penfold is trying to cash in on the situation over there...

 
Posts: 5684 | Location: North Wales UK | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
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I guess political correctness is alive and well in the hunting game also. Sounds like Mr. Penfold got caught telling the truth.
1)Zimbabwe is more dangerous than Australia/new Zealand.
2)mugabe's government cant "gurantee the safety of its own citizens much less foreign nationals.
3)Santions are being placed upon the corrupt government in Zimbabwe.
4)Many other countries are pointing out the fact that Zimbabwe may not be the safest location to hunt right now and that alternative destinations might be safer for a while(RSA,NAMIBIA, NEW ZELAND).
Pray tell----what the hell is the difference!?
lb404
 
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Proberbly the main crime commited was Penfold using the situation to further his business BY directly offering hunters his services as a replacement destination, he was very naieve or downright bloody silly in the way he couched the security alert ....

Most of the other general information he presented was not too far from the truth I guess !! I dont believe any one in their right mind can say without fear of contradiction that all is rosy in the garden of Zimbabawe

Take care, happy hunting

Regards, Peter

 
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If we are talking about political correctness I can't see how anything attributed to Bob Penfold fits as a "HATE" campaign ???

Also

"If banned, it means that he would not be allowed to do any business with any member of the Safari Club International anywhere in the world and this could spell doom to his business empire in Australia and New Zealand"

What right does the SCI have to TELL any member who they can and can't do business with ???

(personally I don't equate the word "business" well with hunting. Hunting is a vocation, a way of life, not a business, even if you do make your income from it. Perhaps some clubs should look at it that way as well, and not as a money makimg business)

Bob Penfold does seem to have upset some people though in trying to divert business from a country where political violence is now the norm to a stable western country where a road accident is your main worry.

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Posts: 10138 | Location: Wine Country, Barossa Valley, Australia | Registered: 06 March 2002Reply With Quote
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Now let me get this right. Some on this board criticized the British Commonwealth for not taking stronger action against the dictator of Zim, but we, of course, don't want anything to impact our hunting activities. Now, is this hypocracy or not?
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We only need one season's hunting in Zimbabwe, and the total bag would be the newly "ELECTED" government!

What kind of rifle would be best for this hunt?

HOW POLITICALLY CORRECT IS THAT?
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quote:
Originally posted by MacD37:
We only need one season's hunting in Zimbabwe, and the total bag would be the newly "ELECTED" government!

What kind of rifle would be best for this hunt?

HOW POLITICALLY CORRECT IS THAT?


Silly!
Bjorn

 
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Going to SCI is getting more exciting. When my wife and I were leaving the hall Friday afternoon, there were several facility security officers with radios at the ready moving quickly past us. We could hear that they were responding to some scuffle.

It reminded us of the year before when an unhappy former client took a swing at an outfitter. The outfitter ducked and the punch caught his wife and decked her.That was an "interesting" event to see!

From talking to Don Causey of The Hunting Report, the US government considered forbiding US citizens from financial tranactions with the Zimbabwe government (like paying trophy fees), or even a travel ban. They did not do either, but actions against Zim are pending.

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Posts: 4166 | Location: San Diego, CA USA | Registered: 14 November 2001Reply With Quote
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No black eyes or bloody noses for anyone!!!!
I quit SCI because it was becomming a rich mans game and did not represent the average hunter. The price of the convention was so high that the average Joe couldn't attend. No matter how noble the goal, if you forget the roots you die! The track that SCI is taking parrellels that which the NRA once took and it so devided the NRA that reconciliation was the only salvation.
Mr. Penfolds actions may seem bad or untimely but they are no worse than much of the undercutting that goes on at many conventions. Someone had a soft spot and he tagged it- so what! He was offering an option of service in a country that is politically sound and safety is guranteed by rule of law. You would think that SCI would jump all over that. DID HE LIE? Not no but hell no. Zimbabwe is in a real fix now both politically and economically and a public relations nightmare. Any real change will have to come from within. We can helpby our conspicuous lack of support for that corrupt enterprise. The rest of the world should do the same! If you want to risk your life do it, SCI should butt out.
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Well said lb404.

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SCI was protecting their revenue stream (booth fees and proceeds from auctions of donated hunts) . The Zim operators and ZATSO were protecting their livelihood (no hunter $$$, no future). The government officials were protecting their cash cow (no hunter $$$, no new Benz).
Penfold was trying to take advantage of the uncertainty over Africa hunting in general, and Zim in particular, by fear-mongering.

Who was watching out for the SCI Members?

George

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Posts: 14623 | Location: San Antonio, TX | Registered: 22 May 2001Reply With Quote
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Several years ago I hunted in Zimbabwe. Several of the capes I brought home were unusable as a result of the inferior salt used in their preservation.
My taxidermist had had similar problems with other trophy's out of Zimbabwe as had other taxidermists both in Australia and the US that he had been in touch with. He urged me to write a letter to SCI which I did.
The letter was addressed to the President of the Australian chapter and in it I outlined the problem and respectfully requested that SCI, as an organisation dedicated to hunters and hunting, investigate the problem and bring pressure to bear on the Zimbabwean Safari Industry to re-educate its outfitters and get the situation sorted out.
The letter was sent in November 1999. To date I have had no reply. I am no longer an SCI member and will never re-join. As far as I can see SCI are a bunch of elitists who overindulge in chronyism and do nothing for the average guy. I cannot see any advantages of being a member (of the Australian chapter at any rate). What experiences have others had with SCI?

GG

 
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I'm not a member of SCI so I'm not familiar with them other than the posts here. From what I hear, is it possible that SCI is headed by Juan Antonio Samaranch? You know, the guy that treated the Olympic Committee like his own property? They seem to have the same mind set, holyier than thou and avaricious.

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Hate campaign? Sounds like a CNN has infiltrated SCI. Just a typical Aussie calling a spade a spade.
 
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Silly!
Bjorn


Bjorn, it has become quite evident to me that you have a problem with me on a personal basis. Perhaps it is because I do not agree with much you say, or the other way around. You seem to have a problem with Americans in general, and me in particular. This doesn't bother me, you may say what ever you please, it is a free speach forum, but I would think a man of your age, and experience as a self proclaimed "LONG TIME PH IN AFRICA" would have a little better manners than I have seen here-to-fore.

Bjorn, I disagree with Mr. Penfold's attempt to turn a sad turn of events to a grab fest, to try to take customers away from people who are already hurting financially. I however, do not think he is wrong about the danger that exists in Zimbabwe, there has been a travel advisory by the USA State Dept. about Americans traveling to and in Zimbabwe.

That country is a dangerous place in some parts, and even if your life were safe, there is no guarentee your trophies will get out of the country, and exorbatant bribes may be ask for in some quarters. The travel advisory cautioned about Harrere, and Vic Falls about street crime. The SO-called ELECTIONS were bogus, and Bobby Mugabi cares nothing for anything but money, and power,any way he can get it. So the way I see it, Mr Penfold did not tell a lie, he just has BAD MANNERS, sound formilier?

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GG375,

I do know the PH in Zimbabwe told me they changed their salt supplier because of trouble such as you discussed. I did not ask who suggested they do so.

All,

Maybe I am foolish but I will be going back to hunt Zimbabwe this year. I guess I could boycott as some suggest and not give the goverment any more money but it is the safari operators and booking agents you are hurting with this attitude. You know I will only be in Harare long enough to catch the plane to the Zambezi valley. The Zambezi valley seems quite safe, no trouble on communal lands from what I understand or saw last year.

My home town has a lot of unsafe areas and murders a thousand or so people a year, yet does real well with the tourists. Why is that, I guess just different attitudes of what safety is. My attitude is I feel safe with the PH in Zim and will take my chances with a few hours in the Harare airport.

BigB

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Big B,
Good for you...I too will enjoy hunting Zimbabwe this year..

I wonder if it has occured to some on this board that people just like us live, shop, go to school, go to work, go to church and walk the streets of Zimbabwe every day, Men, women and yes even their children..Ladies drive from ranches across great stretches of lonely roads every day...

Ever compare the violent death rate with Zimbabwe to say just New York City, NY wins it hands down, so does LA and many more of our safe cities!!!

Get a life!! and never trust big Government.

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GG375,

Welcome to the forum.

I have been hunting in Zimbabwe for many years, and have never had any problems with my trophies.

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IB404 I lived in Moore OK from 78 to 85 then moved to Norman. Went to Highland West Middle school, Moore west midhigh and graduated from Moore High School off eastern ( back when there was just one High School )
In 84. Good to see someone from my old town.

Cheers
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Good old Bob Penfold in the shit again!
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BAD BOB! BAD! Hate crime er uh campaign? Sorry you political correct types > I doubt it. The guy was just trying to make a buck!
Questionable? Yes! But hardly a crime! Where does SCI get off? Who is paying who here? Apparently SCI got more revenue from the Zim people than poor old Bob. I dont even know the guy or care. My queastion is what is SCI getting out of this? Seems to me most if not all of their decisions are money driven. How much justice can you afford?

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In addition to my little tirade above I just want to add something. Ill be damned if Ill let anyone tell me I shouldnt hunt or go to hunt wherever and whenever I can. Its my choice! I flew out to hunt Sept 13th of this year. It was an "interesting" trip. I had lots of people telling me I shouldnt go. I told them all I would not be intimidated by anyone and was contuing my plans. Foolish? Perhaps sometimes but still my choice. You want to hunt Zim or anywhere else do it. You are the only person who has to way the risk/benefit thing. I guess that intimidation includes old Bob and SCI.

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Thanks for the welcome. I've been loitering on this excellent forum for long enough and decided it was about time to contribute.
Cheers.
GG
 
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