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Is it safe to shoot a ruger single shot rifle on safari?This one is a 375 ruger.If a buffalo charges,will i have time to chamber another round?Does anyone use these? *We Band of .338 ers*.NRA Member | ||
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Use the search feature. This has been discussed many times in the past. George | |||
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Geez, George.... You could say that about 90% of the posts on these boards. By the way, whaddya think... .270 or 30-06 RiflemanZ It's perfectly safe. Just make sure you shoot 'em in the eyeball Regards Elmo | |||
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Certainly the rifle should be safe to shoot. Would I use it or recommend it for a buffalo hunt? No, but that's a personnal opinion and not the last word with proof and etc.! | |||
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A controversial subject with no definitive answer. Many buffalo have been killed with single shot rifles. IMHO, not the best selection for a DGR. Regards, Terry Msasi haogopi mwiba [A hunter is not afraid of thorns] | |||
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45-70, OF COURSE ! ! ! Best, JohnTheGreek | |||
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If you can believe the double rifle fans a bolt action is only a single shot if a charge occurs. I am not a fan as such of Ruger # 1s but have often wondered would they be better than the bolt action as they are free of feeding and jamming problems. Mike | |||
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True, but after seeing the same questions asked 40, 50, even 100 times, it should occur to you that people should search a forum to see if the question has been asked and answered before. George | |||
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There is a thread for qulaifications of a PH that contains the tidbit that many of the newbys have qualified under the eyes of local authorities using an old Ruger #1 in .375 H&H cause it's a cheap gun. Looks like it meets their specifications. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should! | |||
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I have never hunted Cape Buffalo, but on many occasions while shooting ground squirrels with a single shot 22 Hornet I have wished for a quick followup shot. If I am aware of the absence of a followup shot while shooting gophers, I imagine the shortfall would be even more noticeable while hunting Cape Buffalo! | |||
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Would I? probably Is it recommended? probably not.. I mean it just makes common since to realize that if you get a charge, your at a terrible disadvantage, make it a 45-70 single shot and your toast! Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Rifleman, 1. The PH probably will not let you get too close to the buffalo. 2. The PH will probably be pretty quick on the trigger himself. If you want to get up close and personal with a buff and handle the situation yourself, a single shot is not the way to go. | |||
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John Barsness used a Ruger No. 1 on buff and IIRC he had some trouble bringing his down although he was in no danger and finally dropped it. That crew from Rifle magazine is more than a little bit strange when it comes to picking DGRs. Scovill takes an '86 Winchester in .50-something and Pearce takes a .45-70. And these guys are the so-called experts. More like stunt men if you ask me. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Knowing how dangerous a cape buffalo can be, I can't imagine why anyone would use a single shot rifle in a situation where a buff might charge.............unless one has a death wish. Matter of fact, I really can't see why anyone would use a SSR on any dangerous game, but I'm definetely biased. Up to the shooter though... | |||
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No more dangerous than many other American hunters who, after firing the first shot from their repeater, just stand there with their mouth open admiring the situation. Or so I've been told by a South African PH. | |||
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There are lots of guys that have used single shots. But by definition you are using the PH as backup in case things go to crap. Not quite playing the game fair. But what the hey, fewer hunters, cheaper prices. ------------------------------- Will Stewart / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor Member, GOA, N.A.G.R. _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ Hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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For Buff i would shy off of a single unless you have super fast loading technique. My uncle showed me the down fall of a single when i was young. I liked shooting his old Martini so he gave me two rounds. He then rolled a ball up a hill and told me to hit it when it reached the top and then to hit it before it reached me. I dont have to tell you what happened. If it were Old George instead of a ball i wouldnt be typing this. Hope this helps you out. Charlie | |||
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Plase be advised that a lot of hunters spend a bundle to get their Bolt Action rifle a new drop box and stock just to allow one more round in the magazine. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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I have seen people work a #1 as fast as some work a bolt. There are those with a bolt who drop the weapon down to work the bolt loose sight picture etc. To me It's about skill, practice & what you have faith in. I do like the #1 and have one in a 458 lott. Several shooters, better than me, have shot it rapid fire and none of us have been able to get the empty to clear without having to turn or elevate the barrel. Therefore disrupting sight picture. Wheh I go after buff I,m thinking of taking a CZ.If I do it will be in a lott also. Have not bought one yet though. just my thought and I like the #1. Semper Fi WE BAND OF BUBBAS STC Hunting Club | |||
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The voice of unfortunate experience should be listened too ...... | |||
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IMHO: Single shot= Death wish | |||
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Experience says no. ______________________________ "Truth is the daughter of time." Francis Bacon | |||
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You could w/ the right situation, more open area, good back up, as always, good shot placement w/ the right bullet. I would want more than a .375h&h though if I am only getting one, maybe two shots off. I am very fast reloading w/ mine. Invader, have your gunsmith take the safety off & reshape it so your empties clear. Then you can reload that #1 pretty darn fast. LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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If you like it, go ahead and use it. The likelyhood of getting a charge if your first shot was good is extremely small. Unless, of course, you hunt with Mark Sullivan. | |||
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RZ, Here is how I look at it...You are going for DG with the mimimum caliber...If the do hits the fan are you ready to hold your fire for nyati to be at 20 feet or closer till you make a spine shot... Or look at it this way...You will be spending almost 9G's for a buf hunt what's a little more for a multiple shot rifle.. I shoot the 458 Lott in the M77... Or trade up to a 577N.E. Mike | |||
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I agree with Saeed. If you like it then go ahead. We don't all have to have a CZ. Make your own decision! After five buffalo I can say it mostly depends on the first shot anyways. I personally would rather use a single shot 458 Lott than a 375 bolt gun on Buff. Of course a 500 or 577 double would be sweet. Marshall Jones | |||
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Rebarrel it to a 500 nitro express ,at least you will get one good shot in, and have at least some confidence in the gun, otherwise its like pig shooting with a 22 ,just fill them full of lead until they go down .Or like a aborigine in the northern territory of Australia said about buffalo hunting ''shootum plenty bullets and by and by him lay down and die'' | |||
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Forrest: Post more Info,Hog killer thinks I should take my #1 458 lott when I go. Dose he think I'd leave him my guns or what? Gene Semper Fi WE BAND OF BUBBAS STC Hunting Club | |||
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I will take a look at the M77! *We Band of .338 ers*.NRA Member | |||
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See here:
http://www.african-hunter.com/lessons_learned.htm | |||
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