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Please see "A few more photos from this season" by Jim H.
But from you PH's and Agents, I sincerely would like to know what it was about your best and your worst clients that made them memorable. As I prepare for my first safari
in '06 I'd like to be the kind of client that leaves the PH or agent feeling like, "I can't wait for this guy to come back" not, "Oh no, not him again!" I'm sure it could be very educational, if not for others, for me. Thanks, Scott
 
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Good client = One who leaves a good tip to the PH? Bigger the tip better the client

Just joking!

A good client is one that departs after his safari as a good friend. I know of a client that after many, many years of hunting with the same Ph and having become good friends, remembered the ph in his will.
 
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Good advice from RHS.

Leave your pre conceived expectations at home along with your tape measure. Trust your ph, do not second guess his decisions.

You are on an adventure, take it as it comes.
 
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Gents: Please let the PH's/Agents answer first. I'd like to see specific input from the pro's out there. This isn't supposed to be an opinion/venting post but rather a learning one. Thanks, Scott
 
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jetblueman,

Your posting was of particular interest to me in that I am a lifelong Alaskan but more importantly that I am a State of Alaska Licensed Master Big Game Guide and Outfitter and that is my only profession and has been for nearly two decades. Secondly, I have been a "client" in Zimbabwe twice (I am planning my third trip to Tanzania in 2006) and thus have a very good idea of both sides of the fence i.e. Guide/PH vs. Client. After my first safari in Africa in 2001, as I have told those guides that work for me, if they want to become a better Guide/PH then they should go on a guided hunt themselves as the "client", because it was an incredibly educational (and wonderful) experience for me as a professional, master guide to be the client and see a hunt from that, a very different, perspective. In my humble opinion, in many ways it is more difficult to be a �good� client than it is to be a �good� Guide/PH.

Open, honest communication is the KEY! I would strongly recommend that you talk directly to your African PH, not only obviously before the hunt but well before it. Though I do deal with a few booking agents, I insist upon talking with my potential hunters before they even book a hunt with me and once you have decided upon which PH you will be hunting with (from the list of recommendations provided by a booking agent or friends) then in my opinion all other correspondence regarding the hunt and it�s details should be directly between you and the Guide/PH. The booking agent can be kept in the loop but you and your PH should be conversing directly and not through the booking agent. If, for any reason, the PH does not want to talk with you directly before either you book a hunt with them or before your hunt with them then that should be a huge warning flag!

One must first remember that no matter how much we think we know we can always learn something new from others. The day that I stop learning something, anything, about hunting or guiding is the day that I will quit and under that criteria then I suspect that I will be guiding and hunting until the day I am laid to rest. I am not ashamed to say that I am a damned good hunter, particularly here in Alaska and my clients� record will speak for itself, but as I soon realized once I was in Africa, every region and every animal has its own peculiarities and takes time to learn. Yes, some of the variables are always the same such as wind direction, angle of the sun, etc� but there are many more variables specific to each region and each species hunted that take time and experience to learn. Not to say that any decent hunter couldn�t learn them but unfortunately most of us do not have the unlimited time necessary to visit all of the hunting locations available on this globe, and learn it�s multitude of species, in our limited time here on earth as hunters; thus sometimes we must rely on the knowledge and expertise of others to help us fulfill our hunting dreams and aspirations and TRUST in their abilities.

It is you, and only you, that should decide when (and if) you pull they trigger on an animal that your PH has told you is a trophy animal. If you are not comfortable with the shot and do not feel as though you can make a good, quick kill then please do not take the shot. If your PH gets upset with you or anything above and beyond that then that shows that they are not the true professionals they should be. Though they might be a bit frustrated that you did not take they shot when they thought you should, that should not deter you from only making a shot when you are comfortable with it. Again, the whole key of a safe, successful and enjoyable hunt is the honest, open communication between a Guide/PH and hunter.

As I tell my hunters/clients, before they arrive in camp and once they get to camp, their hunts is a team effort between us (the guides) and they (the hunters) and it will not be a successful and enjoyable hunt unless we work together as a team. There is nothing more frustrating for a Guide/PH than having a hunter in camp who knows �everything�. I would highly recommend that you go into your guided hunts with an open mind as there is always something to learn and believe it or not, none of us knows everything and I can tell you that your Guide/PH will work harder for you if he/she feels like they are working with a friend on this hunt who is willing to learn and offer input but not demand things, then someone who is trying to tell their professional guide how things �will� be done; that goes over very poorly and will affect your entire experience. Thus, again, go with an open mind, willing to learn as much as you can and don�t be afraid to give your input into the �team effort� but do not tell your Guide/PH how to do what it is they best know how to do.

Any professional, qualified Guide/PH will in all actuality �control� the hunt; in that they will decide whether the conditions are safe for travel and hunting (particularly here in Alaska), where to go to look for trophy animals, they will judge the animals and they will tell their hunter of the trophy quality of the animals seen and encourage their hunter to only harvest an old male of any given species. I carefully listened to my PH in Zimbabwe regarding the trophy quality of the animals we were hunting and have learned a great deal from observation and asking him countless questions.

I will reiterate that the key is open communication between you and the Guide/PH and as I tell my clients, we cannot read minds and please be open with us so that we can make your adventure the best it can possibly be.

When it is all said and done jetblueman, it is your hunt and your money but the only way that you will find it an enjoyable and successful hunt, be it in Alaska or Africa, is if you go into each hunt with an open mind, willing to learn and feeling comfortable talking openingly with your outfitter and the Guide/PH that you will actually be hunting in the field with. I wish you the best of luck on your hunt and if you have any other questions, please feel free to express them and I, or others, will answer them as best I/we can.

All the best,
AlaskanPH
 
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Pretty good essay by Joof Lamprecht of Hunters Namibia about PH/client expectations.

An Insight into
"The Professional Hunter" and "The Safari"

By Joof Lamprecht, P. H.

Long before the first translucent rays of the early morning sun start showing through the sleepy Acacias and the last haunting jackal cries begin to fade, there is a lonely man out there in Africa busy preparing your day for you. On his shoulders is placed the responsibility of your well-being, safety and satisfaction. He will, during the course of your safari, live through the highs and lows of your good shots and your bad ones. He'll be able to cheer you up when you
believe that you cannot walk one more step, and treat you
when the stomach-ache is so bad that you hope you're going to die.
He'll listen to your tales of good fortune and sadness.

He'll be the best friend you'll ever have in Africa.

The author Peter Capstick wrote the following comical lines on what he deemed to be the requirements when looking for a Professional Hunter. I agree with most of the
characteristics that this master of hunting tales wrote, but believe that a number of additional
characteristics should be added to the list. He wrote:

"Professional Hunter Wanted:
Young active man interested in low and infrequent pay to play Bwana in remote bushveld. Must be proven raconteur and socialite without liver trouble, expert card player, bartender,
caterer, barbecuer, philosopher and African historian. Experience in sanitary engineering, local architecture, labour relations, navigation, medicine and pharmacology, botany, zoology, ichthyology, mineralogy, entomology, butchery, taxidermy, dietetics, optics, photography and radio operation essential. Applicant should speak at least two black African languages fluently as well as English and one other modern European tongue. A solid knowledge of mechanics, driving, gunsmithing, toxicology, ballistics, tracking, marksmanship, hand loading and experience as a professional bodyguard are required. Benefits are: Twenty four hour day, unlimited fresh air, including rain, sun and dust, no medical, dental or life insurance and no retirement benefits. Applicant should supply his own rifles."

Jokingly Mr. Capstick refers to a real man who is a true professional in the honest to goodness sense of the word. He, however, neglects to add that the wanted man must suffer through two years of apprenticeship before he can write his theoretical exam and be tested in the field on his practical capabilities, which many fail the first time around. That he'll have, during those two years,
a status lower than the most junior camp staff member on safari. He will be the fetcher of the hunting vehicle, which was left way down on the other side of the mountain range. He'll mix the sundowners, to be served just right, around the campfire. He will be standing in for any member of staff not being able to perform because of sickness or absence. Once he has lived through all of this he may, if he is good enough, qualify as a professional hunter.







He should never be called a guide, as so many hunting clients like to refer to their PHs in Africa. A guide is the faceless guy that drives a 60 seater bus along the coast of the French Riviera or shows you the sights of London and speaks to you over the intercom. Neither is he, and this unfortunately happens in a neighbouring Southern African country, what we refer to in the industry as a "14 day wonder". This is a person who has heard that the money is good in the safari industry. He does a 14-day course, qualifies, buys a pick-up and rifle and still believes that a 308 Win. is the best calibre to use as that is all he knows, because he used it during his military training.

On a more serious note, you have to see your modern day PH as your stockbroker, bodyguard, conservationist and as a businessman. You are going to entrust him with quite a lot of your cash and time to arrange your safari for you. You are going to rely on his skills and knowledge, not just for a good time, but to put you in a position to take top quality trophies, which are, at the end of the day, your investments. Remember, without the PH and trophy hunting industry today, game would have very little more than meat value for locals. The old saying is true: "If it pays it stays."

A smart trophy hunter will first select the professional hunter he wants to hunt with and then start planning his safari around the species that his PH has available. By checking references with hunting clients, who have hunted with the prospective PH, you'll be amazed as to what kind of information you'll be able to lay your hands on. Your next step is to meet with your PH and where could it be more convenient than at the annual SCI Convention in Nevada. You should meet the man face to face and then decide whether you are willing to live with him for weeks on end in some of the most remote and wildest parts of Africa. Just a bit of friendly advice. When you meet him and he carries multiple scars of attacks from various wild animals, stay away from him, unless you want to do "extreme sport", become a Rambo and stab your way out of the teeth, claws and horns of various animals.

Now you've met the guy, you like what you see. Do not, in heaven's name, ask him whether he can guarantee you those monster trophies that you've been dreaming about. My standard retort to a question like that is: "How much time do you have?" Because if the client is willing to book a 6 month safari with me he's got a very good chance of getting all those monster trophies and more. In the limited time frame of a couple of week long safari, depending on one's skill, luck and Diana's goodwill, you will collect some dream and some good representative trophies. Another bit of advice, do not think that you will shoot a 48" Buffalo or a 65" Kudu on your first safari. Any P.H.'s nightmare is a client with the record book in one hand and a tape measure in the other. If you like the trophy and your P.H. says he thinks you should take it, take it! If your PH says he thinks you can do better, don't insist on shooting, listen to the man�. you will in the future have the opportunity to improve on that first trophy, maybe even on the same safari. And for goodness sake if the guy recommends that you use a solid on the dangerous, thick-skinned animals, don't start messing around with some high-tech brand-new bullets. He's been there and done that.
Take his word for it. Trust your PH.



Once you've booked with the P.H., read through his literature carefully because by doing so most of your questions should be answered regarding clothing, calibre, temperatures, prophylactics, visas, etc. Don't draw up one of those long questionnaires, of which I have received too many. Read the literature again and make sure that your questions haven't already been answered.. Make sure that you tell the man if you have a heart condition, that you do not eat garlic and that you can not walk 20 miles a day. Be honest and tell him what he should know. He will in most cases still book your safari unless you're a raving lunatic, and he will in any case find out about
your health condition when you have a heart attack .

Prepare yourself for your safari. Read about the area that you're going to hunt in and about the species you're going to encounter. Don't ask on arrival in camp: "Are we on the east or the west coast of Africa?". Exercise, shoot your rifles, break in your boots, make sure you have bought the best available ammunition, weapons and scopes that you can afford. You're spending a lot of money on your safari - why jeopardise it by cutting corners? Make sure you are in the best physical and mental state that your body will allow. If you taking a non-hunting companion along make sure that the person will fit in and is completely informed about what you will encounter. If you have outlandish tastes in food or drink, ask whether these items will be available in camp.
If necessary, take them along if you must, otherwise live without them!
Most African countries are not a shopper's paradise�.

During your safari it is essential that you communicate with your PH. Tell him if you don't like the food, why you don't like it, and what you would prefer to eat. Tell him if you feel the towels need replacing or that he's walking you to death. Be open and decent about everything. You're the customer, you have the right to complain�.. But never, ever, question his judgement regarding African stuff. Walk in his footsteps when out stalking, you'll be safe that way. Don't go walking off on your own, you're not safe that way, plus you'll spook the game up ahead.

Respect the locals, which include the camp staff. Do not look upon them as savages - their culture is probably much older than yours, and their African knowledge is valuable to you and your well-being during your safari. Don't try to make casual conversation with them as they will most likely not understand you and will be embarrassed. Just be polite and always greet, smile and say thank you. Do not bring gifts such as a bright red "Yankee" baseball cap, cheap whisky or cigarettes, but rather a solid lock blade knife, flashlight or a practical African hat, shirt or pants. Ask your P.H. what the tipping procedure is in his camp. If you start tipping staff indiscriminately, you're invariably going forget somebody and that will cause an upset amongst the staff.
Stay away from the woman, if there are any in camp.

Bullet placement is the most important rule in successful hunting. Ask your PH where he wants you to place your shot. Do not try to neck shoot African animals because you'll be amazed where the vertebra are located. If you are not happy about the position of or the distance from the animal before a shot, don't make the shot and tell your PH why you can not shoot. He will then try to get you in a better shooting position. If you are willing to pull the trigger you must also then accept that you may wound some animals. Accept the fact, do not sulk and do not blame your PH or your weapon. If you feel confident about the shot and feel that your weapon might have gone off target, ask your PH to let you test shoot your rifle. I have found that especially wood stocked rifles tend to dry out during the first few days of your safari and therefore change point of impact. Do not bore clean your rifle during your safari unless absolutely essential due to moisture, and then test shoot again after doing so. Oil shots can be far off target. If you change ammunition brands or bullet weights, tell your P.H. and test shoot at a target before proceeding to shoot at animals.

Be suitably dressed. Leave those very light coloured khakis at home. They're better
worn on tennis courts and bowling greens. Ask your PH, depending on the time of year,
which shade of green is appropriate. A medium colour dirty green works most of the time.
Camouflage clothing is prohibited by law in many African countries.

Most running shoes have hollow soles. Walking in the bush with them produces a sound like a horse eating corn and monster thorns also easily penetrate those soft soles. Imagine having to take the shoe off with a thorn embedded an inch into your foot. Manufacturers such as the W. C. Russell Moccasin Company know
what footwear is suitable in Africa, ask their advice.

Do not pack tons of clothing. Most camps have a daily laundry service.
Three complete hunting outfits plus some camp leisure clothingis all you will need. Leave unnecessary gadgets like range finders, compasses, GPS's, etc. at home. If your PH does not know where he is, or does not know the distance to the target, you and your fancy gadget won't save the situation. This just means that you shouldn't be there with a man who does not know.

One of the best known and most talented modern American hunting writers, my good friend Craig Boddington, shared invaluable advice with me on one of our first safaris together, some twenty years ago, when we were both just starting out in our respective careers. One evening, around the campfire, each with a perfectly chilled sundowner in hand, he shared with me the dream of the African hunter. His theory was that every trophy hunter coming to Africa has a romantic image in his head of what Africa should look and be like. It is the job of the P.H. to make that dream reality. "If you can achieve this, you will be successful." For those wise words I thank him, as this has always been my motto and my goal and the reason for my success throughout my career.

Professional Hunting is probably one of the most satisfying careers in the world - it is, in fact, more of a lifestyle than a profession. Most P. H.s are passionate about their environment and the well-being of the wildlife and local communities. We have the freedom to live our lives dancing to the rhythm of our own heartbeat - a rare privilege indeed.

I wish you happy hunting. Enjoy the tradition and romance of your African experience - an African safari is far more than just a trophy hunt. Do not forget, without your investment in wildlife through your hunt, conservation would not be successful anywhere in the world.
You, as the trophy hunter, are the backbone of conservation -
and we, the Professional Hunters and nature lovers, are extremely grateful to you.

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RHS and Zero Drift:
You have gained my respect. Thank you for reconsidering. I look forward to your your future posts. Scott
 
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Well, I thought I'd be busy answering this after 30 years in the game, but I think you've just about had all the bases covered exceptionally well by the two replies above. Only thing I might add is to ask questions when you're in doubt about a subject, .........no professional is going to think it's stupid, you asked for a reason, and you're not the professional in that area. Secondly, listen to your hunter, you've paid good money for his professional talents and skills. Our best clients are the ones who arrive with a smile and leave with a bigger one! ~Arctic~
 
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