I'm looking for a nice rifle. I saw in a shop a beautiful Mauser magnun Centenarium cal 416 rigby. The gun is the number 0012 of 100.
Looks like non only a marvelous gun bat also a great gun for hunting. The only problem (!!!!) is that is very expensive: about 11.000 euros.
But I have the impression is the gun of the life.
Someone have experience with this gun?

Mario,

I bought one in 375H&H (they made 100 375H&H's and 100 416Rigby's) a few years ago, and have been pretty pleased with it.

However, I was lucky, and paid only 3800 Euro when I bought it directly from Gottfried Prechtl who originally made them! Demanding 11000 Euro is insane for this gun IMO. You could have Johanssen, Prechtl or Ritterbursch in Europe, or several US gunmakers make you a better rifle with a Mag. Mauser action for less than the 11000 you've been quoted.

I suggest you tell the shop you saw it in to re-check their prices...

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Erik, I'm agree the price is very high. Unfortunately is the only gun still available in Italy. The seller is not a normal shop but is the Mauser dialer.
I like very much the guns from Johansen. Last year the price for the model Safari cal 416 Rigby was 8.647 Euros.Unfortunately is very difficult to import in our country if not registered in the national catalogue.
Also the value of the Mauser limited edition in the future seems higher.

Mario,

I see. Then I suggest that the next time you visit them, that you ask if they are part of the Mafia! Because the price they want is pure robbery!

They sell for about 10K in the U.S., but I think the price is high as a better grade custom rifle can be assembled for that price.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ALF:
Mario:

Here is rifle No. R052 of 100 in 416 Rigby.

I like it, it's light though makes a nice carry gun and field gun, not a benchrester..... too light felt recoil brisk because of the weight.



I bought a 450 Dakota exactly like this from Cabela's (except my rear sight is a single leaf fixed/standing), though it was no special Centenary model, it has a low serial number of MM001X. It had no special case, etc., just a plastic and foam hard case.

Cabela's wanted $5995 (USD) for it. Almost reasonable,when the more refined Johannsen .416 Rigby on the same action, with scope mounts and rings, was selling for about $11,000 USD. I offered $5500 for the 450 Dakota Mauser because it had a scratch on the barrel (Sidney, NE Gun Library Showcase tire kickers?), and Cabela's jumped at the sale.

To add to Alf's description of the .416 Rigby, my Mauser Banner (SIGARMS) M98 Magnum 450 Dakota, as it came from the manufacturer:

Weight: 9.5 pounds
Barrel length: 25"
Muzzle diameter: 0.670"
LOP: 14.75" with 3/4" Decelerator-type pad.
No recoil lug on barrel.
Excellent factory glass bedding and crossbolts.
3.5 pound crisp trigger.
It is muzzle light/butt heavy.
It feeds everything flawlessly despite the box actually being a wee bit narrow for the Rigby case head size, according to the Mauser cosine rule of box geometry.

It is a 1 MOA shooter with 3 shots at 100 yards (actually 1/2" for 3 shots at 50 yards using the express sights), despite the too light barrel. I like my wood better than Alf's though.

Now you know that lb404's 500 Jeffery will put 3 shots into 0.217" at 50 yards for me with iron sights (witnessed by lb404, target posted on Big Bore Forum), but it has a heavier barrel.

So please, no lip about me shooting only 1 MOA with pathetic open iron express sights.

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Originally posted by RIP:
So please, no lip about me shooting only 1 MOA with pathetic open iron express sights.

All rifles shoot MOA at some range. Some at 600 yards and some only at 6 inches.

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Originally posted by ForrestB:

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Originally posted by RIP:
So please, no lip about me shooting only 1 MOA with pathetic open iron express sights.

All rifles shoot MOA at some range. Some at 600 yards and some only at 6 inches.

ForrestB! Lip! Bite your lip!

Absolutely wrong you are. Minute of angle! That includes the spread of the bullets at a given range.

Surely you wish to retract that. MOA: just over 1 inch at 100 yards. Roughly one inch.

A minute of angle at six inches is still MOA at 600 yards.

600 yard MOA is roughly 6 inches, a little more.

6 inches (or 1/6 yard) MOA is roughly: 1/600" = 0.001666... inches.

Hard to measure that one ...

I understand the concept. Even my 1911 is MOA at contact range - or it'll be so close you'd have a tough time measuring it. And that's with open sights (even though I won't be needing them).

the same seller have another interesting option for about the same amount the Dumoulin Imperial mauser magnun. Is another beautiful gun, with a wonderful stock. But I dont know if is suitable for a hunting safari. Seems to beautiful

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Originally posted by ForrestB:
I understand the concept. Even my 1911 is MOA at contact range - or it'll be so close you'd have a tough time measuring it. And that's with open sights (even though I won't be needing them).

O.K. you just want to be goofy? My Boar Spear is MOA at "contact range" too, and that is with no sights on the spear at all.

BTW, the Johannsen rifle is probably as good as it gets for no nonsense.