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I trust my PH...he called them pussy socks Hmmm wait...I have an idea... Why don't I wear what I would wear to hunt in any moderate weather climate with cactus and thorns and rocks...like maybe TX, AZ, CA or NM...would that be long pants like say colored jeans and over the ankle leather boots with leather laces Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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NO NO NO, MIKE! You can't hunt in Africa with anything that you might use to hunt in a similar environment elsewhere! Something about the Coriolis Effect makes this true. | |||
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Oh yes...I forgot and it must be the Coriolis effect and the fact that most US rifles have a right hand twist which makes the 30-06 pushing a 180 grn .308 caliber bullet which drops at least 200 700 lb bull elk every year and another 200 1200 lb moose only marginal for zebra, waterbuck, and eland. Of course we don't want to mention that a 270 Win with 150 grn bullets drops an equal number of moose and elk. Yes yes...it must be the Coriolis Effect Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Try going around the thorn bushes instead of through them.  Elephant Hunter, Double Rifle Shooter Society, NRA Lifetime Member, Ten Safaris, in RSA, Namibia, Zimbabwe | |||
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Its was bad with thorns in this area. My Ph got one in his eye and nose and as you can see my legs are in bad shape. Anyway I will think of going around them next time But those clever leopards just looove to be in the middle of the thick stuff.. | |||
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I've got gaiters, but have never worn them, not even once. Never wished I'd put them on either. Granted, I don't wear shorts either. Goretex snow gaiters now, they are right up there with smokeless powder as great human acheivements. | |||
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+1  It's the pussy or wussy gaiters for me everytime!  | |||
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Those scratches remind me of a mate, now long gone,who used to call on a woman whose husband had a rather extensive rose garden. One night, the husband came home a little earlier than expected and the said mate was forced to take the gap through the bedroom window and through the rose garden, clothes in hand.  SUSTAINABLY HUNTING THE BLUE PLANET! "Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful, murder respectable and to give an appearence of solidity to pure wind." Dr J A du Plessis | |||
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There's no doubt gaiters are often a huge benefit. I guess some folk are more easily irritated than others by itches and discomfort, but why suffer if there's a simple solution? I hunt with Courtney shoes, NO socks and wear gaiters regardless of short or long pants. Also critical is laces must NOT attract grass seeds! What is important is the type of gaiter. Canvas is noisy. The soft tanned leather sort is best with a small hook to hold in place on the laces and fasten at the back. M Gordon Footwear who are also Courtney agents sell a GREAT gaiter. M Gordon Footwear http://www.bigbore.org/ http://www.chasa.co.za Addicted to Recoil ! I hunt because I am human. Hunting is the expression of my humanity... | |||
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In August I guess it won't matter much, however in May it is entirely different story. Grass seeds are nasty - living hell - they get everywhere - gaiters are a MUST even with long trousers - one of the trackers (Katchana holding shooting sticks) forgot them as seen on a pic and was out of order the next day. Knowing how tough those guys are it is an issue for sure.  | |||
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It would seem that leather ones would be extremely hot.... Antlers Double Rifle Shooters Society Heym 450/400 3" | |||
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Here are four different types of short gaiters that I use: Boyt Canvas gaiters, leather snap/side velcro gaiters, Courtney leather gaiters with ties, and Australian Buffalo Safaris waxed cloth gaiters  | |||
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